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55 minutes ago, zigbigadorlou said:
Pardon for ultracrepidanizing for a moment, but
Last I checked IA doesn't get a say. Besides, idk why you'd be mad your little guys get to form an alliance and go to a better color. You should take them to green. Green is always receptive.
My name isn't on that treaty, and I'm a high gov in BR. But that's ok. I know my place as a worthless prot. Krampus reminds me I'm just a worthless prot every dayIts vague for flexibility. On an unrelated note, you got any room on pink for some city 5's?
All in all I think this thread really shows the true flaws in Hollyro$e. They come into clock and our's thread and just complain about people. Meanwhile, we FREE SPEECH ENJOYERS allow some REAL CHARACTERS like firwof and han solo express themselves without muzzling real political interaction.What do you have to say for yourself Hollyro$e?
Im sorry i dont feel secure sharing my opinion anymore now that you have shattered our hegemony.
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Oh no! Not peace between br and clock! They hit our achilles heel @Sweeeeet Ronny D- the treaty- I can feel my throbbing hegemonic power whittling away!
Noooooooooo.........
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Challenge accepted. HollyRose stays.
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3 hours ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:
Team up and hit the rest of the game? that is what it seems like the people are asking for.
No friend ronny. Team up and farm while they look on in horror and disgust.
Hit them where it hurts.
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19 minutes ago, Adrienne said:
You are quite literally the only person who has said that.
That's all they've got.
Want to perma mdp to make a point?
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On 6/3/2022 at 10:17 PM, roberts said:
every great man will eventually wane, every dawn must have a dusk.
@Prefonteen lived out the golden days of the Syndicate but, alas, those days are over.
vae victis, Rose has truly won the game.
war is peace
Freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
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On 6/3/2022 at 4:49 AM, Mayor said:
Maybe instead of laser-like focusing on forum downvotes/upvotes your alliance could instead stop belittling others grievances and try to understand. That might actually help some instead of just pretending that people are not upset about this, or that it is only Clock, and many other cases of people in HW laughing and enjoying themselves in an IQ-like manner at others expense.
Mostly everyone understands what an upvote or downvote means, just because Morf got -135 does not mean he is worse than Roq. I have seen many from your side, including Partisan, downvote Morfs post and multiple times Morf himself is owning it and treating it like an honour (which is fine). But then you all come in here and say that downvotes don't really matter as some sort of excuse.
Maybe instead you should reread what literally hundreds of others posts have been made describing this trainwreck of a treaty.
PS: I like hanging out with Kev, hes fam..
Clock crowd: "EVERYONE IS DOWNVOTING YOU SO THAT MEANS YOU ARE HORRIBLE"
Also Clock crowd: "TKR DOWNVOTING ITSELF AND PRETENDING ITS ALL A JOKE IS DAMAGE CONTROL REEEE"
Also Clock crowd: "LOOK EVEN PARTISAN DOWNVOTED YOUR POST THAT MEANS YOU MUST BE BAD REEEEE"Meanwhile, Partisan, 05-26-2022:
Mayor friend, what are you doing?????
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17 minutes ago, Mayor said:
So this is the plan huh? We all wondered why Morf couldn't commit to not signing future MDPs with Celestial I guess it is because you guys plan to use this down the road in the future as well. I guess retired leaders are killing the game.Jokes asides, stillpathetic you guys trying to defend thistrash heapof a treatybut as stated by many others I guessSyndicatehaslost it's edgelong ago.I crossed away all the fluff to get to the general core of pretty much all your posts these days.
Mayor, friend. What happened to your wit and originality? Where is that daring raider I once came to appreciate?
Partisan digs frantically into the saltheap.
Mayor friend, where are you?
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1 hour ago, Azazel said:Friend,
I think we both know the terminology/definition is slightly different irl and here, however I do appreciate you taking your time to research this in such detail so I will keep this short for you! When speaking of hegemonic powers in Orbis as a whole, in my experience most people are referring to a bloc or group of alliances that are unbeatable. As I've said before the numbers are pretty clear in this case and if you wish ill happy provide them to you, HollyRo$e can not be taken down even with a joint game wide response. You attempting to use this power offensively is quite irrelevant. However I still fail to see the point about arguing over trivial matters like the definition of what your bloc is.
Friend. You can re-interpret the joint militarization agreement between Ro$e and Hollywood as many times as you wish to make your dreams of being crushed by an oppressive hegemony feel true. The human experience is subjective after all, and far be it from me to stand between a man and his reality, however far-fetched it may seem.
I will give you a cheat code however. Clock can singlehandedly end this "hegemony" whenever it feels like wrapping up its lopsided and (in my personal subjective experience which I hope you may respect as I do yours) cowardly field exercise on small, disorganized Backroom (for whom I happen to hold much love. Hi @Daveth).
Your peace agreement after all, invokes the final article of the demilitarization agreement, thus sending us back to our old rivalry. The world saved. By you, George, Destroyer of hegemonies and ghost of IQ.
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12 minutes ago, Azazel said:
Quite aware, I figured the "Friend" gave it away
Oh no friend, I was referencing your rationale! I will indulge and bite however.
The agreement is a mutual demil with a safety guarantee and a well defined expiry date (end of current conflict). That does not make it a hegemonic powerhouse. There is no authority or influence being exerted by the joint forces of celestial-hw over others. Similarly, the context of unending hostility and rivalry between both spheres in combination with the limited nature of the agreement equates this more to something resembling the nuclear non-proliferation treaty between the soviets and the states during the cold war. Unless you want to claim that the cold war ended in '68, I don't think that the existence of such a treaty would mean the soviets and states were a joint, allied hegemony.Similarly, the existence of this temporary (not claimed, as you say, but actually ratified within the ageement) agreement does not mark an end to the rivalry between both spheres. By definition, it is therefore impossible to consider us a hegemon: Neither party is dominant over the other, and therefore no hegemony can truly exist.
Are there any other terms or definitions you want to sling with to sound like you have an idea of what you are talking about, friend?
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1 minute ago, Azazel said:
I never said it is longstanding, what it does open up is precedent and a dangerous one at that. What stops you two from doing this every time a fight may not be convenient, other than your word? Your side acting like this is no big deal is the true disingenuous part of all of this.
Pre Friend,
Id love to see this in a reverse situation, I am almost certain you would be ringing a different tune, the fact of the mater is the numbers do NOT lie. Your current MDP lineup makes it highly unlikely and near impossible to take you down even with the entirety of the game attempting to do so. Your claims of it being temporary is really irrelevant at best, a global power house that can not be beaten is a hegemonic power. I'm not using this term in a political sense, I am using it in its exact definition, its not my issue if you choose to ignore fact and keep grandstanding, that's your choice, however most people are not buying it.
@Prefontaine come pick up your man. He's confused.
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9 hours ago, Azazel said:
HA! This may be how you or the top 3 alliances who combined forces *envisioned* it but I promise you a hegemonic power was definitely not everyone's elses goal or vision
1 hour ago, Azazel said:Your post and attempt to downplay is a joke and changes nothing. Look at the numbers, even with every other spheres in the game, fighting your new super blob still likleyresults in a loss. So yes you actually nail the definition perfectly.
This isnt diverse, this is pathetic and cowardly. Basicly the entire game has denounced the move at this point. I'm not sure how you guys think defending this action is a good idea
Careful now. A few more of these claims and @Benfro and I might come out of retirement to sit down with our friends @Sweeeeet Ronny D and @Abbas Mehdi to make your fear a reality and become an *actual* hegemony.
Would you prefer we do that? Or shall we go back to realism mode and acknowledge that maybe your saber rattling isn basal fearmongering, rather than a rational political assessment?
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6 minutes ago, Mayor said:
Except that he clearly took those screenshots as soon as he typed that stuff to Keegoz showing that Wana just isn't trustworthy. He probably has saved a whole folder of every conversation he has so that he can whip up something quickly in a debate I guess.
As far as I can see it is not really a false narrative either considering tS went along just fine with the war and only now, months later, has some problem with it. Too me this just seems like a "he said, she said" kind of deal but it would not even be a concern if Syndicate yourselves had not made such a huge deal about chaining wars being bad but signing sphere wide MDPs suddenly being good. The fact Wana "Sleeps soundly at night" regarding your reputation as an alliance speak volumes about how you guys are truly doing right now.
Those are a lot of assumptions.
6 minutes ago, Ducc Zucc said:Actually WANA leaked to Rose first before the blitz even happened last December. I thought the resident snake in t$ was partisan!
Whats that supposed to mean
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2 minutes ago, Mayor said:
I am not in Clock anymore, and I'd like to think I have been consistent in my anti-Syndicate stance. Tho you are right, it is entertaining for me.
Old man yelling at cloud
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Just now, His Holy Decagon said:
Both, meaning WANA and Keegoz?
Keegoz feels wana !@#$ed him over. Wana feels keegoz !@#$ed him over, no?
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Just now, His Holy Decagon said:
I don’t think we are? If it sounds nonsensical to you, it’s because we aren’t actually “crying foul”
I mean what was keegoz trying to achieve with that leak? It boils down to you both made a deal and you both !@#$ed eachother over.
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I'm confused. Why is clock crying foul over a deal they themselves engineered?
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Just now, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:we are, but you keep taking shots at the grump, so i cant just let you keep doing that without pointing out the huge snakeball you have formed.
I promised to keep my snakeball away from your whale horde if you keep your whale horde away from my snake ball.
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18 minutes ago, Mayor said:
Before we left Clock, our bloc had some successful wars, good allies, and some fun adventures. What did you guys do before you abandoned BW? Oh right, completely fail, betray your allies forcing them to fight for themselves (and now they are basically disbanded since you left them behind), betray yourself and members tbqh with that awful war performance last war and then you betrayed all your former members and history by signing Rose again. Absolutely pathetic.
Now here you are defending this trash, honestly Partisan, to see you fall so far is really quite sad.
You mean our ex-allies, who most of you advocated (for an extended period) should be left to their own devices rather than "Be tS vassal states" because they'd "Form a dynamic new sphere", and who you then proceeded to roll to shit, ending in the disbandment of an alliance I personally quite liked? I don't think that's something you can, in any way, pin on t$. Seems to be the same lack of foresight as you had with pushing t$ to stop trying to slow the whale growth of HM/HW.
You live by the day. Which is fine. t$ now conforms to your ridiculous playstyle. One which I frankly find disgustingly boring. I don't blame WANA for that- he does not have much of a choice from where I am sitting. The alternative is being rolled and catching the feces you lot conjure up from thin air cyclically.
Come with a more interesting political prospect than what i've seen from you since NPOLT, and both I personally and t$ in general will happily see if we can help make it a reality. Or you can keep trying to force your flavorless, empty husk of a minisphere ideology on us and watch grumpy race away laughing to the C60 mark.
Your choice.
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2 minutes ago, Mayor said:
"tS can't form a stable bloc or even fight an alliance these days without completely shitting the bed so fix it yourself!" - Partisan
Literally just left a bloc in a bout of instability
Mayor friend, what are you doing?
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5 minutes ago, KindaEpicMoah said:
Paranoia? I feel perfectly secure right now.
4 minutes ago, Viselli said:!@#$ yes. Peace in our time. Glory to RoI. GOB and tS can coexist. You can eat a shoe if you don't like it.
Just now, Xi Jinping said:Tried to fight HW, then turned around and doubled it.
They made a compelling argument.
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10 minutes ago, His Holy Decagon said:At least it wont be bad guy syndis hegemonic aggression when that happens. I will take me rolling and farm happily under our new whale overlords in the knowledge that i tried and you lot deserve your frustration.
8 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:hey i am fighting a war right now, you are going to have to farm on your own @Prefonteen
Bye
8 minutes ago, chad said:Reading comprehension is hard for some people don't bully them too much.
Leave it up to a guy named chad to come up with an irrelevant douchey oneliner.
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