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Beautifully In character, deserves and Upvote for sure . #KillKony2012

6.9B / 57 members is 121million per member, this value accounts for all loot taken from Swamp during this war.

Your willful Ignorance exceeds a level of stupidity that I thought wasn't possible for a non-raider. Firstly, I said at the beginning of the thread that our goal wasn't to go positive but to greatly reduce their income. '3rd strike' synonymous with 'the last straw' which is obvious to anyone who isn't intentionally smoothbrained when reading , any alliance could attack us 3 times and only receive counters in return. But to say our only justification is leaders getting hit is another smoothbrained statement. "Arrgh doesn't rebuild " and I thought the rest of your statement was laughable, this takes the cake, of course arrgh rebuilds, you can't raid when all of your cities are at 30 infra and unpowered., and when you have to work your way back up instead of being given the funds to do so it brings about the weeks of stagnant growth I mentioned above "what, do you think they're gonna need a hundred million dollars each " Actually yeah, they'd need over 100 million each to return all their losses from this war. Meanwhile Swamp is at 60m per player and will actually return those losses to their memebers Atleast the arrgh trolls used stats and have a different viewpoint, you are just filled with double standards and an ignorance that is unmatched by any other in this game.

You asked about a "political " goal after I stated our damage goals. Which means you can differentiate between the two, so why do you pretend they are the same now? You pretend its just because leaders were attacked yet this wouldn't happen to any other alliance under those circumstances, it was your 3rd strike. A week after we give you mercy Swamp will be rebuilt as if nothing happened while many in arrgh will struggle for weeks and pull out loans to have any rebuilding funds You will raid, but each time you do it will be one raid closer until the next time we wipe out all of your loot taken from us & much more. And the cycle continues. When you brag about 30m looted as a raider. Well we've already knocked the sense out of you for sure The alliance stats tell us arrgh has lost more in the last 2 weeks than you've gained in the last 6 weeks before this started, meanwhile Swamp is losing much less than we make daily, that is more than we could have hoped for and we've gotten it easily through facing 0 resistance while rolling you all . " there's no combined financial gain " That's a really weird way of admitting that your rebuild is going to take longer than ours for most of your members despite costing less. Anyway I'm done trying to teach common sense to your little troll brigade, reply all you want, it's not going to compensate for most of your fellow raiders getting waffle stomped.

"Proped up by 5 people " doesn't make sense to you? How deluded are you truly? If we based this war off my individual stats then we'd be outdamaging you but that's not how alliance stats work, you don't get to pick who best represents the average, arrgh is being rapidly siphoned of months worth of combined financial gain and that is a fact. Who said Forever? I know you guys love playing the victim card but you'll be let go when we have inflicted enough losses on arrgh as a whole. And why do we have to have a goal? The reality is you take actions that most alliances would consider a declaration of war every day to most alliances and we let you get away with it because we feel bad for you and it's not worth the money, we have simply decided (and its long overdue personally) that enough attacks have occurred over a period of time to warrant retaliation, accept it, take your beating and enjoy it. See you in my notifications.

We've made it very clear that our goal is to make you Lose as much potential revenue as possible, whatever the cost. And the results are better than our most optimistic expectations. Meanwhile your damage is being proped up by 5 people who have barely laid a scratch on our economic output

This war didn't even justify one propaganda thread, but atleast make only one thread and stick too it. Do you know the story of 'the boy who cried wolf'? Well imagine crying wolf is making too many fourm posts and the townspeople ignoring the boy is the community universally disliking you and downvoting everything you ever post again That's kinda exactly how it's going to go if you continue doing this bro. I'm telling you for your own sake, the community doesn't forget those they deem to have breached the unspoken laws of the fourms too many times.

I can agree with you there, I appreciate it. 😅

Firstly you haven't made even 50 million, much less actually, sustaining losses. Considering that damage is split amongst many more people who can also get those losses back much easier and can actually sustainably continue fighting at this same pace, I think we're in a pretty good spot. Any show of mercy on our part is simply us setting limits and staying within them.

That's hilarious because if I change it to the last 28 days, you're on the list , usually top 5 but not now. "If you only look at the 5 people with positive stats we are making bank" And I'm misinterpreting stats? 95% of Arrgh is suffering but that's irrelevant too you and would speak volumes about how little loyalty or Brotherhood exists in Arrgh if it wasn't common knowledge already. Lastly if you existed to have fun you wouldn't hide behind 800per city infra and 10-15 city down-declares like the rest of the pvp community.

Do you see Arrgh on this list? We have already exceeded our own goals.

Maybe freedom of speech wasn't the best idea after all.

In all seriousness, there's not many better ways to form an treaty than after proving your capabilities to each other on the battlefield

I'd love to see Arrghs total net income over the next week compared to Swamp's, we can do more damage than total money you make, can you say the same for us? Ultimately one side is valuing net damage, and the other is valuing reduction of Income. So we won't see eye to eye, but you can't pretend you're Winning just because you had nothing to lose from the start.

Raiders telling other people to not raid is hilarious, even moreso when those raiders are the ones who actually started this 😅

Very proud to be able to call TCW an ally. I would say the Golden age of Swamp has begun if we weren't still destined for even bigger and better things together.

Oh no , whatever will we do without a tiny fraction of our fake, in game money and pixels . Arrgh is going to be shown where they really stand in the food chain, at the bottom, scavenging for scraps.

Good luck to both sides, enjoy the thrill of the battlefield

The project seems very niche but otherwise very well thought out changes, I think this would go the rest of the way to balance the game as well as it can be balanced Maybe plane v tanks could be brought down to 30% increase Also please don't nerf ship v infra damage. Its already Barely cash positive to do to most nations. It shouldn't cost more to destroy infra than the value of what's destroyed atleast down to 1000infra

Welcome Home USN As per the Rule of Partying, no creature of the Swamp may be sober for the next Fortnight, let the brew flow until our Kegs are dry, buy some more and do it all again.

I personally think Nukes have ample damage for the MAP cost and cost of production. I feel there would have to be a damage decrease and/or a production/storage cost increase to accommodate for it. I think maybe it would be better to have certain projects (like nuke launch pad, missile launch pad and spy satellite ) to give you an 1+ to your MAP capacity with an increase in cost (to low cost projects with this boost) to accommodate Or an entirely new project that gives you 2-4 Max MAPs.

I do want to clarify that the length of this war is purely a mechanics and numbers problem. The tank changes just make it even easier for the side with more planes instead of the side with less planes and the number advantage us and Hedge had added on to it. From start to finish our opponents made the best possible tactical choices that conserved 10s of billions of unnecessary losses during the war and much more if they had been more interested in stroking their ego than the well being of their members and anyone laughing at them over it is simply too ignorant to see the bigger picture.

Good war, well fought best of luck to TCW, Test and Co. In the future

As from someone who has been in the same position before there really wasn't much they could do, its just how the game works. And even if you get into a position to pull a counter blitz you would counter for your alliance first to free up more people to counter for your prots Also correct me if I'm wrong but Test got hit before you and you did nothing until you got hit, Actually you still did nothing after you got hit for the same reasons.

Man Vs. Wild Edit: it's a Canadian TV show where this guy gets dropped off in different desolate climates and has to survive for a week with minimal supplies