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End of the Great Sock War and Mr.Fox's last stand

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1 hour ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

You’d feel fairly treated if someone in Camelot got caught cheating, then you lost your nukes and most expensive cities for being Gov on the same AA? With the rest of Camelot deserving similar treatment if a cheater is ever caught from the alliance?

Great way of handling things...

Actually, yes, that is entirely fair. Gov members have a duty and responsibility which puts them on the hook when any of their members or fellow gov members misbehave; be that unauthorized raiding up to and including cheating. Leaders have an expectation and duty to know these things, and if they don't know or don't at least try to find out then they've failed in their obligations as a leader. It's not like you'd forgive Epi for avoiding action against someone in camelot that declared 5 attrition wars against BK and proceeded to go nuke-happy, right? To answer the second question, though, the normal level of membership don't share that responsibility and shouldn't be held accountable for their leadership, because they don't have any expectation or duty to know their leaders' secrets.

That said, without evidence of active participation in the cheating, administrative action would indeed be inappropriate, but being socially called out and asked to resign or disband the offending alliance is entirely appropriate. Which is why we should respect Uriah for doing exactly that, and consider his duty fulfilled. At some later point he might even lead an alliance again; it would be difficult for him but still entirely allowable, since his duty in regards to the cheating has been fulfilled.

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1 hour ago, Sir Scarfalot said:

Actually, yes, that is entirely fair. Gov members have a duty and responsibility which puts them on the hook when any of their members or fellow gov members misbehave; be that unauthorized raiding up to and including cheating. Leaders have an expectation and duty to know these things, and if they don't know or don't at least try to find out then they've failed in their obligations as a leader. It's not like you'd forgive Epi for avoiding action against someone in camelot that declared 5 attrition wars against BK and proceeded to go nuke-happy, right? To answer the second question, though, the normal level of membership don't share that responsibility and shouldn't be held accountable for their leadership, because they don't have any expectation or duty to know their leaders' secrets.

That said, without evidence of active participation in the cheating, administrative action would indeed be inappropriate, but being socially called out and asked to resign or disband the offending alliance is entirely appropriate. Which is why we should respect Uriah for doing exactly that, and consider his duty fulfilled. At some later point he might even lead an alliance again; it would be difficult for him but still entirely allowable, since his duty in regards to the cheating has been fulfilled.

So best way to bring down an alliance for a cheater would be get an alliance to let them join, use cheats to the alliances benefit & get that account caught. Seems that could reward cheating as well if decided fair & standard practice.

Edit: Although I mostly disagree with the administrative response & don’t expect most alliances to care about what is fair, etc. It’s a war game, so not calling out any alliances who attacked as doing wrong.

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32 minutes ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

So best way to bring down an alliance for a cheater would be get an alliance to let them join, use cheats to the alliances benefit & get that account caught. Seems that could reward cheating as well if decided fair & standard practice.

Edit: Although I mostly disagree with the administrative response & don’t expect most alliances to care about what is fair, etc. It’s a war game, so not calling out any alliances who attacked as doing wrong.

It's partially the alliance's responsibility to monitor its users. And it's also the alliance's responsibility to monitor its protectorates. If say, someone were to attempt to infiltrate as a cheater to get the alliance rolled and/or banned, they'd deserve their victory if the target alliance wasn't good enough to detect and prevent the attempt.

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8 minutes ago, Inst said:

It's partially the alliance's responsibility to monitor its users. And it's also the alliance's responsibility to monitor its protectorates. If say, someone were to attempt to infiltrate as a cheater to get the alliance rolled and/or banned, they'd deserve their victory if the target alliance wasn't good enough to detect and prevent the attempt.

I wasn’t even thinking about Protectorates, but if the responsibility to monitor goes that far it could set even more dangerous precedents.

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You do realize Ol' Ramirus Maximus become Graemlins government because he wanted to take the alliance down, right? There's many other ways to infiltrate and destroy an alliance without needing to resort to cheating.

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1 minute ago, Inst said:

You do realize Ol' Ramirus Maximus become Graemlins government because he wanted to take the alliance down, right? There's many other ways to infiltrate and destroy an alliance without needing to resort to cheating.

His refusal peace without IRON’s unconditional surrender after every other alliance & unwillingness to speak with anyone about it made it seem that way, unless there was a point he really wanted to make. He did coordinate the war against IRON during Karma or at least he’s the one who wanted me to declare with FCC on them last minute from Valhalla.

Although I favored letting them off light & TOP lobbied for leniency with them. So also possible he wasn’t happy with the peace. I never had any issue with IRON, just their allies at the time.

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People talked to him IRL and it turned out he was a Berk grad student who made up his in-game identity because he had a hate-on for Graemlins.

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1 hour ago, Inst said:

People talked to him IRL and it turned out he was a Berk grad student who made up his in-game identity because he had a hate-on for Graemlins.

Possible he just didn’t want to sound like an idiot, so claimed he joined from the start with that intention & pulled off some really long term plan. He was Gov at least as far back as Karma War; wasn’t until BiPolar he destroyed them with a stubborn & illogical course of action.

Edit: Also despite not being the most sociable guy, he got to the top because he was good at econ & investing a lot of time into building them up. So even if eventually he did despise most of them, I don’t believe he joined & invested all that time in Gov because he hated them. Also at the time, he had the other Archons in power backing his decision to war until unconditional surrender, despite IRON being unwilling to surrender with unknown terms. They had sort of a Triumvirate System as well, so he wasn’t able to do that without support from other gov. I remember during it speaking with one, but he was unwilling to go against Ramirus & was even convinced they weren’t being insane.

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We must never state it's name! You know who, doing you know what, you know where. 

Some say it died that night... But I don't think so, it's still out there somewhere, with all that drama and all that hate. 

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Dead or immortalized as the alliance to break both the game & their enemies despite all odds?

Didn’t think dark magic like that still existed in this game. :P

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I may be considered a traitor etc within the NR members and I don't blame them, but I have to say

Nova Riata was probably one of the most active and fun alliances I have ever been in, the voice chats were very involving, accepted anyone into their conversations, and out of game, they are great guys and continue to be, and despite the setbacks in-game I wish for them a successful future, even if that sounds hypocritical. All those poker games were fun, would like to play again, if any of you are free.

Uriah, you are a great guy, although we didn't speak much, I think you are a pretty cool guy, and not to forget the fact that you made an entire alliance worship foxes, had fun with poker, when we were last in the game, you beat me, but it was fun nonetheless

Viselli, we may have gotten on the wrong foot after I left, but I can still remember all those crazy poker games, introducing me, and being important to my time in NR

Sondi, Smooth Irish accent, haha, but very cool to be around with, the poker games, one of my most challenging opponents, very involving, just all around cool guy, very funny.

Njordor, introduced me to NR entirely on the get go, and a large part why I joined in the first place, always defusing tense situations, always being funny, looking out for others

Pooball, outside of the game, outside of cheating, he honestly was fun to be around with, his English tone, the time when I think it was Njordor or Sondi tried to get him to go all in on me when I had a Flush was very funny, and one of my best moments, really made the banter that much more

 Jason or whatever your name is now, fun banter, interesting conversations, next time you try a business, look into it before buying! : P 

Boofy, the wise old bovine of the alliance, really got the conversations within the alliance all that more fun, cool guy altogether.

 

Most of this is going to be my short experience in Poker, and in the alliance, but it was definitely incredible to be in it, having something that hardly any other alliance could achieve to have, or even dream of having, a very inviting community, an active community, sure it's great, but getting new people instantly into the affairs on the first day is legendary. Sorry that it had to end so abruptly and quickly, but if any one of you guys want to create an poker game, I'll be sure to invite me, haha, I'll spend another night on it.

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A farmer lives on a small plot of land next to a river. One day, he travels across the river in a small boat and purchases a fox, a pooball, and a 204bil of generated resources from a Tkr supply store. When the farmer returns to his boat to cross the river again and go home, he realizes he has a dilemma.

The farmer can only take one item in his small boat at a time, otherwise he risks capsizing. He cannot leave the fox alone with the pooball, because the fox will disband Nova Riata. He cannot leave the pooball alone with 204bil, because the pooball will get them rolled.

How does the farmer successfully get all three items across the river? And out of sheepy's peripheral vision?

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So drunk, so let me solve the problem. Because i'm so drunk, I didn't this was trivial.

 

Step 1: Take the pooball across the river, leaving Uriah alone with 204 billion (it's supposedly up to 370 billion now!). Return to the shore.

Step 2: Take the money across the river to the Pooball, but picking up Pooball on the return trip.

Step 3: Take Uriah across to the other shore, leaving pooball alone by himself. Return with an empty boat.

Step 4: With pooball and Uriah left without the money, take the money across the river to pick up the money and return to pooball and Uriah.

Step 5: Set everyone on the other shore on fire.

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On 6/3/2019 at 1:38 PM, Carter Burke said:

Can't be the great sock war unless @Xoriet of NPO is involved

 

Patently untrue. By doing this they might yet save me from socks. 

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Was looking forward to a "perma roll", oh well, guess ill chill in Soup for a while??

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