Durand

You’re welcome Gator ?

You said that quite a lot, but it isn’t true. It’s not true that the most that we drag down your whales, the most that we lose low tier. Why ? Because those whales can’t strike low tier, so if they don’t attack your whales, they won’t be doing anything.

Um, I’m sorry but I don’t know what you’re responding to... would you mind telling me ?

That’s what people who are losing an argument say. Don’t worry, everyone has been there. Na but for real, good luck on the war. I’ve seen that you had some nice hits, keep it up. Maybe you’ll even win the war, who knows?

"What happened was going to happen no matter what", meaning that even if N$O did help, we would have still been in the same position. Losing, but catching up. "Alright sit down". I have no words. It's an honor to be told what to do by the leader of the best alliance in all Orbis... Yes, yes, yes. We can updeclare on you and blablabla, blablabla. What is your point ? "You have way more whales and we had more infra", this was mine. I don't care if we can updeclare easier than your whales can downdeclare, cause you have so many whales that it's still hard for us. Look at the stats please. Don't make the mistake that @Nizam Adrienne just did. She said "you had 300+ nations siting at 20 cities", but the problem is that we don't have 300+ 20 cities, and you have more nations at 20 cities than us... Let's not reply to that, I don't understand it very well. I know, we all do. We can triple team you guys and stuffs. But we have to team up to drag you guys down, it's because you're more than us (in upper tier). How many times will I hve to say it ? KETOG was relatively ok ? Sure, that's true, for some nations. But the problem is that most of the damages that KETOG received was from infra being destroyed (I can't check the statistics page, so I'm not sure. I might be wrong). And even tho you were winning, you guys still received a lot of damage. You had less infra, that's my point. Sorry for the confusion, but you know exactly what I meant. 1. Thanks for calling me a champ btw. No one ever called me that before, I appreciate it. 2. Um, ok. I see. Haha, you're a funny guy, aren't you ? "I'm glad you guys think you win". I never said that we were winning now (and maybe I did say it in past posts. If I did so, please quote them here so I can fix it). All I said is that we will win. Or I believe that we have a lot of chances, at least. Once again, we're coming back. You can deny it, but it's the pure truth. Since I know that some people don't like to look at stats (cough Adrienne cough), let's look at Coal B's stats since the beginning. Actually, let's only look at tCW's stats since the beginning. Ooooh, poor us. We received a lot of damages. Guess we won't restore our military honor this war... OH. WAIT. WHAT'S HAPPENING ? WE'RE DEALING MORE DAMAGES THAN WE'RE RECEIVING ANY?!?!? YAY. We're coming back....we might win. Sure we're still losing, but we'll win soon enough. When I'll defeat the last TGH's members, and that BK and slaves will win the war, Buorhann will be the one to pay for my 2k infra - Durand (sorry, was drunk for the last part ;p) Now of course, you can try arguing what I just wrote. But do you really believe in what you're typing ? Is it really worth it ? I mean, it's fun, but you're just writing down some dumb stuffs for absolutely no good reasons...

Exactly. The longer they'll hide, the more their enemy will want them dead...

And you failed to understand that we're talking about whales. 20 cities is big, but it's not the whale tier... EDIT: Oof, I just saw that you weren't even right about us having more 20 cities... That's kinda tough, ngl.

>Stop being a dumbass. >I'm looking for his explanation as to why it matters. You're calling @Malal a dumbass, while trying to find my explanation for why it matters. Goddamn, I can smell it, the hypocrisy is real... It's obvious that it matters. Whales count way more, since they have more infra and more troops. We outnumber you badly in lower tiers, but you have better stats than us, and this is only due to your whales. Ok yeah, there's the fact that we had max infra while yours got destroyed in Surf's Up, but whatever. And if you didn't know, N$O's intervention did help us, but what happened was going to happen no matter what. We had infra, and you didn't. If we had as much infra as you, we wouldn't be losing, at least not buy that much. Now that we have no infra left, just like you, we're coming back. There's nothig more obvious. I feel like I'm talking to a wall or to a child right now. Everything that I'm saying is obvious, but it seems that you just don't understand it. You don't even need common sense for this. You had more whales. Whales matter more. We had more infra. It boosted our score for no reason and made our war stats worst. You can try to argue this as much as you want, but you'll fail no matter what. You won't win. You can't win. (If you didn't understand, I'm talking about the argument and the war ?) And if there's a dumbass here, it's you.

Ouch, no wonder why our whales got dragged down to my score in a couple of days. The rest of the fight will be funny to watch. Dozens of 6k+ score trying badly to escape the meatgrinder. Keeping thousands of tanks and hundreds of ships to avoid the war. Sadly for them, we're catching up a bit in high tiers, and some of those pixel huggers won't be able to hide for much longer.

Yeah you're right. I always thought that I could be wrong about how many whales they actually have, but the fact that Buorhann never tried to actually prove anything just proves me right. We'll see in 2 months from now, cause we never know. Who shall win this war ? KERCHTOGG will probably use NPO as an excuse of why they lost... it has already begun ?

Aaaah, finally they let the BK slave#4675 speak by himself... The only alliance in our coalition that actually has a lot of whales (by whales I'm talking about 25+ cities just saying. If this isn't the right definition of "whale", feel free to correct me) is tCW. I don't know exactly what are the numbers, and if you do please write them down, but I'm pretty sure that we're the alliance with the most whales in the whole coalition. After, we got large alliances like UPN, BK, AK, Acadia, and a couple of others that actually have a couple whales, and even 30+ guys. But now, let's look at your coalition, KERCHTOGG or I don't know what. You have Grumpy, an alliance full of whales, that has 30 members. I know that 30 isn't a lot, but they still average 33 cities per member, and they have barely been hit during Surf's Up, even while fighting CoS and SK (I'm not sure but I believe that they have a lot of whales). After that, you have Guardian. They don't have as much whales as Grumpy, but they still have a lot. There's a good reason why Chaos got destroyed in Surf's Up, because their enemies had Grumpy and Guardian (part of the reasons). Let's not forget Rose, an alliance who didn't suffer anything from Surf's Up, who has a lot of whales. Just like tCW I think. And then there's CoS, SK, KT, TKR, Soup, TGH, and a few other alliances that has a little bit of whales, but enough to be a problem. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we actually had more whales, and we just got unlucky (or we're "bad at war", who knows ?). But no one has ever came to me with the proof that we have more whales. We were outnumbered in the high tier. You were outnumbered in the low tier. It's simple.

Yes, I understood that not that long ago. Someone (I don't remember who tho) told me that it was Rose who asked his alliance if they could join. Kek, no need to say anything. I guess that one of my slave masters will come here and gently explain what you need to know.

Some of them can't understand the fact that they might lose. That's why they're complaining. A lot of KERCHTOGG members have been really nice and are just enjoying the war, but some others are ruining it for everyone else. I agree that the problem's on both sides tho. But a lot of members of the KERCGTOGG keep on saying that we have 2 times more people than them, while ignoring the fact that they got more whales than us (which is obvious), and that's exactly the reason why they still have better stats. It's complicated for some people to understand that they might lose after attacking first an enemy that was going to hit them. They could have talked to our gov, maybe there would have still be a conflict, but we never know. Instead, they hit us, and are now complaining about us bringing our protectorates and friends. NPO came and helped us, and now they're mad. Instead of peacing out, they'll wait until they've dealt enough damages to us, but it will be too late. The war will continue for months, and it'll just be better for us. We're not "winning", but soon we will be. And about NPO helping us, I heard no one (or a few people) complaining about Rose coming to help Kertog/Chaos. Because (unless someone proves me wrong), they had no place in this war. Of course, this is a game, and they have the right to attack whoever they want, but NPO has that right too. It's not a bad thing that they joined tho, big wars are cooler, and with Rose, KERCHTOGG has more chances against us. But once again, those same people who complain about friends backing us up, have friends backing them up. In an offensive wars, let's not forget.

People are still debating here ?

Kek, not that one...

I have to admit, that one was funny... But I'm not sure if this type of jokes should really be said on the forums, just saying.

....I have no words...

Keeeeeeeeek, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Aaah, I see.

Oh that's cool. Well, remember to only place people that you trust as heir. A lot of micros disbanded because of things like that, and it would be good if it didn't happen to you too. Anyways, I don't know much about DB, but they're probably good protectors. Kek, with all of this salt, I'd call you a 4 tear old ? (was joking btw, good luck with them)

You don't have an N-Pass, so no.

Will you guys be protected by tCW again ? If yes (or if not), good luck. I'll love seeing the Dixie Union again. Of course, it will especially be because of the freedom of speech in your discord, but whatever. As I said, good luck in the future.

We need more people like you in this game.

Lol, even if I'm not a whale, it's still fun to see friends organize hits on enemies. Seeing a 5k NS with 3k infra getting hit by three 3k NS is so much fun. Almost as fun as raiding actually ?.

? oh no, he called me an idiot. But just to be clear, when I said that we went from -30 bil to -29 bil, it wasn’t to prove that tCW is so good at war or anything. Only to say that we’re now catching up, since our goddamn infra is gone. And the rest of this isn’t a waste of time. Me and you arguing about something that will happen anyways is a waste of time (but funny, so I keep on doing it). Me actually fighting back against the lame and pathetic attacks of the guy who has almost two times my number of cities even if he’d get destroyed anyways is a waste of time. And that thing happened a lot. A couple days ago, it was against you. But KETOGG/Chaos/Rose continuing the war against BK and friends + slaves (I had to) is not a waste of time. I won’t act like you and pretend that I know exactly what will happen. But I believe that we can win this war if it continues for months. The longer the war is, the better for us. The shorter, the better for you. But why are we losing despite us having 2 times more members than you ? Because we had infra to lose. I’ll say it again and again. Why did Rose do so good despite having a lot of infra ? Because they had a lot of whales (that’s where we have less people). And why did Ming do so bad ? Cause they had less whales, so most of their members went straight to the meat grinder. Just like you. It’s simple. Now don’t just answer to this calling me an idiot again, it’s pointless and uncalled for. Well, sure, do as you wish. But it just shows that you don’t have any type of arguments. You have nothing to say, so you just insult me. But I wouldn’t except less from you ?. So it’s all good.