Vesica

Well fought everyone! Glad its finally over!

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Aye I agree with you. Now to both of you, I'm not stating that I think Guardian should get away without paying something.... but I do think that both Guardian and VE should be willing to negotiate in good faith. Guardian is still very much Imperial Germany in 1918 compared to the Wehrmacht in 1945... down but not yet out. Guardian acknowledged they did wrong, they are willing to come to the bargaining table, VE should acknowledge that and be willing to come down on the Reps they requested, if only a sign of good faith they to acknowledge that Guardian is willing to own their mistake. However I am nothing more then a grunt myself who followed orders and am observing what the leaderships are doing and are of course, my own and personal opinions.

My only comment on the Reps part is the thought back to Imperial Germany after WWI. They were made to pay reparations that crippled them and laid the groundwork for WWII. pushing the Reps WILL result in another war as ANY vindictive or revanchist leader of either Alliance will use them as a bat to beat it into their respective Alliances heads they need to rebuild and roll VE for forcing it on them to begin with and forcing them from the top lists as what were once premier alliances of the game. Now that said I understand that Guardian/SK aren't on the verge of collapse like Imperial Germany was, and the Reps aren't completely crippling and designed to be as such. They are more symbolic, however any concessions, whether they are warranted or not by the victors, which VE will be no matter what at this point, will be resisted by any side that honestly believes they have done no wrong and don't deserve them forced on them. If Guardian is willing to acknowledge their own fault in this Alliance, why not meet them half way and lower the Reps as they have shown humility and acknowledgement that they did in fact do something wrong.

It would likely be easier to ask what the individual alliances are referring the wars as. The common name will likely be picked up by everyone else. VE might have a different name for it then UPN, Mensa, Guardian and SK might all refer to it as different things.

Not to instigate... but yes... yes I believe it was However in all seriousness, its all on economics now. How long can Guardian and SK maintain the economic game... and better question how often are their members being beiged. The more they get beiged, the longer the war can go on because it gives their members a chance for reprieve, plus the availability of slots as more members get beiged out makes a bottleneck making the numbers against them mean a lot less. I HOPE it'll be over today, or tomorrow... but realistically I'm not the leadership of SK and Guardian.. it ends when it ends.

There were other directions it could go in?

Here Bunny, have Ice Cream

Thats the second time I've heard that in this thread, I'm glad I'm doing something right and trust me so am I! And THAT is irrefutable proof that Aliens believe in Hawaii first and foremost... We must all bow to the superiority of the Hawaiian people

Obviously Hawaii must be the master race... Aliens chose to invade there first... it was obviously to test their mettle against Earth's most powerful and prestigious warrior culture and race

Idk... active spies I would think are in the field and more liable to get killed... but "inactive" or "reserve" spies to me sound like they would be in the home country and still be available for protection against attacks in the homeland... still its a much more viable option then simply having your entire intelligence agency wiped out and being defenceless for weeks

Ditto for Mensa, to say you guys fought exceedingly well would be an understatement

And they appear to have a tendency to jump bails... so what would happen if further federal funding and tax revenue was taken away from Hawaii along with such hit shows as Hawaii 5-0

Again I know, I was just poking fun with Cartman's spoof lol But on the matter of Hawaii... for a master race they seem to be involved in a lot of crime...