Hereno

that now is the time, after months of raiding, that you guys chose to actually fight back, says a lot, regardless of what you say clueless (see: not here for hours a day socializing with the skype crowd) at least the fact that i haven't even talked to ogaden since before the war ended blows your "everybody here against these terms is just pursuing a political agenda" line to dust

saying "arrgh! raided us for months and we tried to be diplomatic" is basically code for "we didn't do shit about it and couldn't even protect our protectorates, and now that we got sheepy to change the way war works, we've decided to beat arrgh under 500 average score and force them to accept terms that last for an entire year" like if that's the pro-this announcement line, lmao the thing is, some of the alliances, particularly polaris, is their protectorate, so the announcement is designed to allow polaris to stop being a protectorate but still get a year free of being raided. ah, the perks of knowing people for years and years in another game. hello viridian entente and united purple nations. if i know ogaden, it's because they didn't have any other choice than to continue getting the shit kicked out of them without recourse, and he probably talked them down from something even worse. then again, you wouldn't really need to know ogaden to figure that out.

except the nazis systematically exterminated persons consisting of a large portion of the userbase whereas stalin and the rest of the commies you hate so much did what dictators have done throughout history - kill people who opposed them on political grounds. united states does it too, to a much lesser extent - communists were, for example, barred from getting many jobs throughout the mccarthy era, and the war on drugs was literally started because "the white women are gonna !@#$ the black men". the united states tends to kill non-citizens a lot more than its own citizens. you can draw false equivalencies all you want, and it isn't my intention to say that keeping me from getting a nice job is the same thing as shipping me off to siberia, but at the end of the day, i supported keeping the trump ads and i've wrote more scathing criticisms of idiots on the far left than any of you are even capable of. your post is just another generic appeal to moderation, but i guess that's better than shitposting and bad attempts at trolling. even so, you're literally counting "don't be racist" and "don't have slaves" as leftist. if the center has moved to accepting racism, that ought to tell you something. actually, now that i think about it, not including an alliance literally named after the confederate states of america as being "far right" outs you as a shill in sheep's clothing. no pun wrt sheepy intended.

i mean if it's because i'm the one who is asking, there are other people with the same concerns

what if they declare war instead? say in 8 months you decide to !@#$ with them because 8 months is a long ass time, and they hit you with all they've got. is that bound by these terms, too? you've literally given terms that last an entire year. by the time they're up, one nuke might set you back 20m in reps per nuke, and you're holding the alliance accountable for something that is often-times beyond their control go ahead, strangle the game in the crib, it's your donation money that's gonna be wasted on just sitting around for years at a time (again)

the way you worded 3, to me, means that if i were to get accepted in to arrgh, raid 5 of you and nuke all of you before deleting on beige, arrgh would be left holding a bill of millions and millions of dollars that they had no control over... for the next IRL year those are some pretty heavy terms. guess you guys really don't like fighting.

norden verein in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) was a stormfront invasion alliance forcing them to use the odal didn't change who they were, and many of them are irl white supremacists. one of their members was the leader of the american front who punched geraldo rivera in the face (although this is forgivable, to me) and was wanted in connection with the irl murder of black people a combination of their and other members, when they came to P&W, were reusing actual nazi propaganda to push their alliance we managed to get sheepy to force them to quit by making a black nationalist alliance bent on conquering europe and enslaving white people - he could only get rid of us by getting rid of the nazis and still be consistent in his moderation - this is the origin of the anti-nazi rule on this website. we had to make it about white people and europeans before any of you children got the point. and just because they cannot now openly be nazis doesn't mean sheepy hasn't shown them a lot of sympathy. probably because they donated, but jorg haider and the others in the RNG were allowed to use images of hitler and talk about massacring the jews in a holocaust in their factbooks, as well as openly identify as german fascist nationalists (in all but name only, they were a nazi alliance, and still remain a "german nationalist" alliance) we recently had an alliance try to be vikings by using the odal rune that nordreich used for close to a decade on their flag as a substitute for banned nazi imagery in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) in P&W most of you support the freedom of speech of nazis and the bent of the forums is largely to the right, with many of the ostensible "leftists" irl quick to defend the "right" of the nazis to talk about massacring many of the users here irl (nazis killed jews, roma, communists, dissidents, catholic priests, homosexuals, among others) terminus est, among other alliances, is practically entirely filled with far-right wing politics of this nature. mensa seems to have a lot of these people as well. i don't think it's any surprise that they follow me around like dogs, barking whenever i post, and they're also the two alliances who originally attacked SI back in the day anyway. RGE now has 30+ members, despite two of them (including the leader) ostensibly being exiled from the alliance for having actual nazi views this site has one of the strongest far-right wing presences i've seen anywhere else on the internet, barring stormfront and 4chan (maybe 7chan too, i don't really go there). and i don't really go to breitbart, etc. and who !@#$ing cares about those shitholes. so, no, i don't think he's joking. it's actually kind of disgusting.

lmao tell me how you really feel now

we've been waiting on it since beta

don't be lazy and this won't happen

but it's true that a lot of the post-soviet communists and people in general see homosexuality and the rest as "bourgeois decadence" stemming from the west fidel castro has since apologized to the lgbt community for the abuses they suffered at the hands of the cuban revolutionaries

you guys do it to yourselves, i don't feel a bit of pity

What are you even talking about? I was active but I'm only one person. You're just in here being a dick, and I honestly doubt you even remember the city counts that people had. I don't even remember that for my own nation. Shoo, you and the rest.

the thing about trying to control things like this is that you really can't oh, so i can't get a doctor to help me? let me get a gun or jump in front of a vehicle why not just stop trying to control everything and let people do what they want?

http://www.ditext.com/arshinov/voline.html i intend to read through arshinov's account of the makhnovschina in more detail and let you know. the link i gave is a preface written by voline. you can click the link at the top and go to the appendix and read some of the declarations they made. you can see what their flag is, as well. my nation's biography is something that they went around posting everywhere. they were interested in creating free soviets and they also disregarded the cheka and declared that bolshevik policies such as the draft did not apply in their territory. i don't claim to be an expert, but i do know that the ussr had a long history of suppressing perfectly good anarchist movements based on their being anarchist movements; you cannot make these claims about, say, the CNT/FAI, so even if you were to be right about the free territory, which i don't think you are, it would mean nothing, as within 3 decades the soviet union would have allied itself with fascists twice and done so against anarchists.

why is it that everybody who i destroy just goes "hurr durr you don't use capital letters, i'm not even gonna read what you have to say"? there's worse things in the world than being wrong i guess the anarchists in kronstadt were a bunch of bandits or "whites" or whatever other excuse you have for massacring them, too, mr. "we need to have constant mass killings of people in the party at all times to make sure there are no capitalists" the anarchists in spain were doing pretty great too until you Stalinist !@#$ started helping the actual literal none other than Francisco Franco kill them

in all honesty, it amazes me that people actually join alliances who tax at a 100% rate. why the !@#$ would you want the alliance to literally control everything about your nation to the point of not even being able to actually play the damn thing yourself? for a while, at the beginning, we did it at a 50/50 rate, just so we could suck money out of our inactives and redistribute it, but by the end, we were down to between 5-10%, depending on the needs of the alliance. personally, i think taxing at a higher rate than 5-10% is just ridiculous. like i get that the game is all about minmaxing to the point of absurdity but goddamn. plus, letting people keep their money let them experiment themselves and bring back information about what works and what doesn't.

when you get hit first in this game and you have no military to speak of in the first place, that's pretty much all you can do like you can turn it into a trash-talking point all you want but the fact that i didn't have the time to sit and watch every aa in the game for military build-up on top of basically running an alliance 80% by myself doesn't mean a whole lot except that i'm right about what i identified our problems to be in the OP. apart from fox fire making us an alternate set of forums and providing images that sindorin ended up spending a few credits to get put into the game (and then he tried to get sheepy to take them back when him doing that didn't mean i handed over control of the AA to him), everything we did was basically entirely me by the end. VL helped some, too, that i remember. joe wasn't entirely inactive. aladeen was around. fraggle posted weird shit a few times before leaving... that was the extent of us doing work. if you don't believe me, ask pub - the whole reason we ended up going to EoS with the shit that i told him not to trust me with in the first place is because he didn't bother letting me know that i actually gave him a member mask which let him see 95% of our forums for like a week. we didn't actively recruit whatsoever, either. all of our members came from people seeking us out and choosing to join us. everything we did happened in the first six months of the game, a ton of our guides were just outright stolen from other alliances, and we suffered from the common malady of all commie alliances - none of us really gave a shit about the game enough to actually play it. that's a lot of the reason for this thread, actually - to see if people who actually want to sit and do work for hours and hours on this game in a commie alliance, or if the desire to see us reform is mainly along the lines of mine.... "it would be nice but i'm not actually gonna bother because i'd rather just be a commie irl and not worry about working in a game" point being, despite ALL OF THAT bullshit, we were still and remain cooler than TEst and sycophants like kurdanak, even after merging into arrgh!

are we still allowed/encouraged to report rule-breaking/abusive/etc. messages/war declarations through the forums here, or is this supposed to quite literally take away the report function and replace it with just blocking anybody like that without having to involve moderation?

fox news is literally the propaganda wing of the republican establishment if they are ostensibly taking the side of trump over that of the republican establishment, what does that tell you? it's a sham. he's a liar. they're liars. fox news is owned by an australian and a saudi. i don't understand why thinking people who claim to be pro-america watch it. it's like the professional wrestling of the news world.

you obviously did not understand what i was saying there

WE STAND FOR THE ABOLITION OF ALL CLASS DISTINCTIONS HOW ARE YOU EVEN A COMMUNIST here is an article from the guardian about careerist politicians - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/17/parachuting-political-careerists-safe-seats-candidates and this is from the paper who rails against both bernie sanders in favor of hillary clinton, and against jeremy corbyn like all the other capitalist !@#$

You don't see any reason as to why the workers movement should be led by workers themselves? You don't see any contradiction between hating "careerists" but wanting people to make their career being a revolutionary? YOU are advocating a political leadership made up of capitalists. The working class does not need the wealthy of capitalist society to lead them into socialism - we control everything, we run everything, we have all the power. What is needed is for people to realize this and then use that power to force our society to be run in favor of the everyone who does everything. We do not need a political class - how the !@#$ do you plan on having a stateless, classless society with a political class because "it works"? Lenin was from the !@#$ bourgeois class. He was smart but he was not a worker. He killed workers. They massacred the anarchists in the Ukraine twice over - first after betraying them after using them to crush the whites, and then again when Stalin decided to starve them all to death under the guise of them being kulaks. Speaking of which, the kulak class did exist before the revolution - https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1903/rp/2.htm#v06zz99h-367- this is your hero Vladimir Lenin mentioning the kulak class by name in 1903. You could not be more wrong if you were trying. The NEP was necessary because, point blank, the people weren't workers who wanted communism. The bolsheviks got rid of the democratically elected congress and decided to force socialism on people who didn't even know what the hell it meant, but in reality, it was just state capitalism, as Lenin himself actually straight up told us. Or are you going to, as a Stalinist, who himself we know Lenin did not want to get in charge of the USSR, again going to go against Lenin as a self-described "Marxist-Leninist"?! What a bunch of !@#$ rubbish. Let me ask you this - why would a state educate people on how to make the state stop existing? Why would a political class that exists apart from the working class voluntarily give up its power? You talk about "accepting reality" but you have no idea what reality even is if you think that capitalist productive relations are natural and necessary. You are not a worker, you look down on the working class as stupid fools who need Great Men to lead them into socialism. You are not on our side. You look down on us from outside. No, it is not required to be a proletarian to understand and support communism - Marx was the son of a politician, and he was largely financed by Engels who was himself a bourgeois intellectual. But they also fought with the working class and developed historical materialism. I do not reject Lenin solely on the basis of him not being a proletarian - it is not out of reach of my mind to understand that people outside of the working class are able to recognize why it might be in their best interests, if only because they believe in a certain way, but not necessarily always because of that, to support the communist movement. But what you need to recognize is that a group of bourgeois intellectuals who are only in that position because they benefit from exploiting the very workers they claim to represent is NOT NECESSARY WHATSOEVER for the workers themselves to come to an understanding of their material conditions and then work to change them in their own interests. The working class is not stupid. Many people in the working class might disagree with us, and I use that term lightly, on political theory, but that does not make them dumb or incapable of coming to understand what is in their best interests, and I see no reason why they need leaders from outside of the class to make that happen. No, those leaders need the working class, as they are leeches by definition, just like the union bosses we have now who make six figure salaries to sell out the workers they claim to represent. I defend the USSR quite frequently on these forums and elsewhere but I, unlike you, am willing to give a serious critique of it before Khrushchev came to power, because I am not attached to the idea of Lenin and Stalin as deities that are somehow above me.

started to watch fox news interview trump tonight fox news anchor telling me how the republican establishment hates trump fox news is the republican establishment went "oh my !@#$ing god" and walked out of the room

You say you want a professional revolutionary class... but you don't want careerists... Hmm... What do you think Marx meant when he said, "Workers of the World, Unite!"? Do you think he meant "workers of the world, get behind this vanguard party of bourgeois intellectuals who will lead you to socialism"? Because that's what Lenin was... and Stalin was a bank robber. Neither were of the working class. There was hardly any working class in Russia to speak of to begin with. And by definition, politicians are not workers. They don't produce anything. The idea of a political class divorced from the working class is as abhorrent as the idea of an armed force divorced from the working class. What you want is socialism in name only; the state capitalism of the USSR was just that and Lenin admitted as much when he took a further step back from it with the NEP; as though they weren't already calling for a union of peasants and proletarians in recognition of the fact that the economy was largely agrarian to begin with. You want to use force to establish freedom which is in itself a rejection of freedom. Your ideology is a giant contradiction. But I'm dumb?