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HeroofTime55

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  1. Had we not struck first, there would be no war at the moment. It would have come in late November/early December. We decided to not wait for someone to punch us in the nose first. Preempting a plot to dogpile us is a perfectly justified CB.
  2. No ruse would be performed without the full intention of going to war. They would have certainly attacked us had we not made the first strike. I think it's possible they laid out bait though to see if we would take it. Camelot's DoW was a DoW of aggression, though. It's wasn't "you hit people so we defend." It was pure aggression. There was extensive back channel communication and clearly a massive plot to destroy Quack. As my friend @KingGhost has mentioned, the alliances you are freshly joining, and the one which has expelled you for talking, are not going to be honest with you.
  3. I think you're starting to come on to something here. There was certainly a plot against us, was this the bait to kick it off? Possibly! I am not entirely sure! But it wouldn't be the first time such a method was employed to then pretend the efforts were defensive!
  4. Be aware that people will tell you only what they want you to hear. Even me! Thing is, the Truth is on my side, that's what I want you to hear, and so I have no problems admitting that. But it's up to you to figure out what's going on. People are only going to feed you what they want you to hear. Remember that. Check my sig, click on Ronny's name. There are other instances I believe, if someone else could help me out here, but that was one of the funniest blatant admissions. He tries to backpedal later in the thread, but he kinda said the thing that everyone already knew but nobody on your side was supposed to say out loud.
  5. Minus you know, getting countered in literally 3 minutes, the aforementioned logs in the initial DoW, direct admissions from the leaders of your coalition, and other assorted oddities like Rose running spy ops on us before we even made the first hits, and Camelot's utterly, unintentionally hilarious DoW. I get it, you come from the Big Lie school of thought, repeat it enough times and hopefully people start to believe it. Problem is that you don't have a monopoly on speech, and your laughable and thin lies are readily exposed. Again, who are you trying to fool? Why continue such an act when you have been thoroughly embarrassed? This is, dare I say it, NPO levels of propaganda and messaging, just repeat the same lies in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It suits you.
  6. Are you still pretending that anyone believes this line in spite of the mountains of evidence to the contrary, including direct admissions by the leaders of your very coalition? Give it a rest already. I'd have more respect for you if you just owned up to what your side has done, instead of this absolutely asinine act you have going of feigning innocence. orly
  7. Emphasis was on you pretending that this war wasn't insanely lopsided, but also, you get to own what the rest of your coalition has been repeating over and over and over again.
  8. Truer words were never spoke. Right, I forgot, we're the evil HQ igemonoy and this war is very close
  9. I would like an answer to this question as well.
  10. About 90% of the world is dogpiling us for being "too big." That in itself should paint a picture of how much you should really believe that argument.
  11. You still believe the lie you were sold by TI and Swamp. You chose poorly. I have already heard rumblings from people in Swamp/Hedge looking to "pivot" this war of aggression in your direction. Best of luck!
  12. I literally listed 2 other things in the very post you quoted. Good lord. ...But you can add a fourth point: Camelot posted the hilarious DoW they had written up for when they were to initiate their attack against us. The rest of your coalition was at least smart enough to drop the pretense and just engage. Cam? Not so much.
  13. Except for the fact that we had no desires and kept ourselves small thinking that a multipolar world was desirable. The idea that we needed to be held "in check" is utterly laughable. The reality is that TI was upset that we wouldn't form an actual hegemony with them, and we became in the way of their ambitions, so they ran off and formed Swamp to begin the process of plotting to dismantle our bloc. Those are the simple facts of the matter. Pretending in any way that you plotted this "for protection" is utterly laughable. You mean when they were allied to NPO at the beginning of this year and trying to force t$ out of the game? This is a curiously light reading on that history. But t$ had reached out to try to make amends. Apparently for naught, as we got a truly classic work of unintentional irony out of Camelot's DoW. We're the Big Bad Guys and Not Innocent because we.... grew too fast? Because we were more competent? Only the insecure perceive those things to be threats. But this is also why this plot will cost you dearly. The counters came out within 3 minutes. To argue that there was no pre-planning is a total and complete lie.
  14. If they're going to call us that while plotting to dogpile us, I see no reason it can't simply be thrown back in their faces. That they make the accusation against us in the first place helps reveal their motives and objectives, anyway. They're trying to demonize us - why? Yes, it's hard to rise to the extreme toxicity levels of NPO. But why were we painted with that brush? I don't think they intend to remove us from the game as players, but I do think they are trying to tear our bloc apart. My point is, it won't work, and they're in for an ugly surprise.
  15. Sorry to hear your alliance disliked your engagement on the forums. You've been fun to chat with! Of course, the narrative told to the foot soldiers is that "we were never going to go to war with them first." The reality is that we acquired leaked chat logs of the coming storm, Swamp and friends already had their target lists ready (which is how they were able to counter us nearly instantaneously), and we have direct admissions from coalition leaders that they were planing a hit. The evidence is overwhelming. Quack simply chose to accelerate their schedule, but that does not make us aggressors. I hope you have better luck with your new alliance, but it seems like Swamp wants ideally dumb foot soldiers. You think too much
  16. Except, Hedge and Swamp were not known to be allies, except as part of a secret plot to destroy our side. I don't know what ends this war. We've been in this position before, facing enemies who wish to destroy us. This is nothing new. You will not prevail in that objective, and we will fight on and make it as painful as possible for you.
  17. Hedge and TCW are not part of Swamp. Swamp was never attacked by us until y'all decided to engage. Which, again, your coalition had already planned out. There were some logs that leaked proving the plot, and also the massive retaliation for our pre-empt would never have been possible if your coalition did not already have plans in place. Also there are direct quotes from leaders in your coalition (see my sig) admitting to the planning of a coalition to attack us. Out actions ultimately are defensive in nature against Swamp/Hedge/Rose/TCW aggression. We struck first because we weren't going to wait for y'all to punch us in the nose first. If you don't agree with that sort of behavior, I commend you, but suggest that you should find new allies.
  18. My friend, Quack never hit Swamp. We hit Hedge and TCW because they were plotting a war against us. Swamp and Rose also were part of that plot. We caught wind of this and hit TCW and Hedge because we figured we would do it now instead of waiting until late November. Swamp and Rose instantly countered us, Rose even launched spy ops before we did our blitz. My friend, you are part of a coalition that plotted a war of aggression and annihilation, for no reason other than that we (Quack) were big enough to be "in the way" of their ambitions, as it were. May I ask, at what time on what day were you assigned targets?
  19. Rose, looks like you're being put on notice. Hmmm, almost like I suspected something like this would be the case. Good luck!
  20. thank goodness you guys joined, the war was looking like it could go either way
  21. Swamp is still lying and pretending that they're the good guys? Again, I ask, who are you trying to convince? Us, or the rest of the world you organized to dogpile us?
  22. Rolled? No. But the battlefield performance of Dumpster Coalition leaves much to be desired. Swamp vs Arrgh is but a preview.
  23. Imagine plotting a 3v1 dogpile and still getting your asses handed to you, both on the battlefield and on the forums. It's hilarious how much of a dumpster coalition Swamp and friends are.
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