The Aqua War (winding up/winding down)

[AustinH]

7 hours ago, George Clooney said:

Amusing.  I think what's most interesting though is that every single assertion save one (Borg was involved, so was Arrgh, and I developed a new appreciation for them as assault troops) you just made is wrong.  Quite the accomplishment.  You're boss would be proud.  

 

 

Prove even one of my claims is wrong and I'll concede. Otherwise, take the L old man.

[Alan]

On 11/23/2023 at 12:59 AM, Tomislav Milanovic said:

Alan, it's things like these that get you and your alliance into trouble. Do you not remember last time what happen when you called an alliance a bloated alliance? Does FSO ring the bell?

 

I'm making a statement. TCM isn't bloated imho. If you're calling TCM bloated that's on you. I also never called FSO bloated.

Stop trying to stir up more drama.

[George Clooney]

17 hours ago, AustinH said:

Prove even one of my claims is wrong and I'll concede. Otherwise, take the L old man.

Go home, kid.  This game is too big for you. https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvsmicros

[AustinH]

1 hour ago, George Clooney said:

Go home, kid.  This game is too big for you. https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvsmicros

https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvscoal

 
 Damage Stats
 Camelot: +1bil
  NPO: -2bil
 WTF: -6bil
 TCM: -13bil
 Arrgh and Momento Mori (mercenaries): +38.8bil

 War Stats
 Camelot: 1,175 (off) and 712 (def)
NPO: 149 (off) and 390 (def)
 WTF: 91 (off) and 520 (def)
 TCM: 89 (off) and 265 (def)
 Mercenaries: 849 (off) and 266 (def)

veryone except WTF had no military at the end or was dragged down multiple times and had their infra wrecked. Our net damage was positive by the end of the war but that's not obvious because you had your propagandists separate TCM and add random micros to our stats. Furthermore, NPO gave up and the chief diplomat which started your war entered VM.

Edited November 26, 2023 by AustinH

[Stanko1987]

4 hours ago, Alan said:

I'm making a statement. TCM isn't bloated imho. If you're calling TCM bloated that's on you. I also never called FSO bloated.

Stop trying to stir up more drama.

Alan, once again please do not call other alliances bloated, if you got nothing nice to say, best not to say anything as this is the best advice i can give to you, in order for you to avoid anymore dramas, it is bad enough that you already get yourself and Black Skies into dramas on a weekly basis, please do not turn this into a daily basis.

[Nokia Rokia]

8 hours ago, AustinH said:

Snip

In infinity war, we were not a combatant and did not enter the start of the war when Camelot attacked us with no valid reason it was because they wanted to and the war by that point was considered over.

PS we did not enter cause we were not allies of Polaris when it started nor did we have any interest in joining a war unrelated to us that had been going on for months.

When Camelot hit us we stood by Polaris and refused to surrender till they got peace.

 

Camelot was made aware we were not entering and had no interest in being involved as well as had zero obligations because our treaty was signed months into the war and had a term stating we won't join wars that are prior to the treaty.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Nokia Rokia

[George Clooney]

16 hours ago, AustinH said:

https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvscoal

 
 Damage Stats
 Camelot: +1bil
  NpO: -2bil
 WTF: -6bil
 TCM: -13bil
 Arrgh and Momento Mori (mercenaries): +38.8bil

 War Stats
 Camelot: 1,175 (off) and 712 (def)
NpO: 149 (off) and 390 (def)
 WTF: 91 (off) and 520 (def)
 TCM: 89 (off) and 265 (def)
 Mercenaries: 849 (off) and 266 (def)

veryone except WTF had no military at the end or was dragged down multiple times and had their infra wrecked. Our net damage was positive by the end of the war but that's not obvious because you had your propagandists separate TCM and add random micros to our stats. Furthermore, NPO gave up and the chief diplomat which started your war entered VM.

WTF wasn't involved in https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvscoal

You asked me a single thing you said that was wrong.  I've done that.

I think maybe you are confusing two different conflict. 

Also, WTF always takes a lot of infra damage up front in wars (our tendency to rebuild and rarely raid means that we go into fights fat and lean down as the war progresses), and it skews the damage cost data.  The data from the war I fought in clearly shows that Arrgh did massive damage to you, far more than WTF did, thus why I have renewed respect for them as assault troops.  Not sure if your data here is from the war we fought in, or mix of data at this point (FYI: my nation's military was maxed out at the end of the war we had with you). 

Seems pretty important to you that you think that Camelot is some sort of invincible fighting force though.  Good luck with that.

[Stanko1987]

12 hours ago, George Clooney said:

WTF wasn't involved in https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvscoal

You asked me a single thing you said that was wrong.  I've done that.

I think maybe you are confusing two different conflict. 

Also, WTF always takes a lot of infra damage up front in wars (our tendency to rebuild and rarely raid means that we go into fights fat and lean down as the war progresses), and it skews the damage cost data.  The data from the war I fought in clearly shows that Arrgh did massive damage to you, far more than WTF did, thus why I have renewed respect for them as assault troops.  Not sure if your data here is from the war we fought in, or mix of data at this point (FYI: my nation's military was maxed out at the end of the war we had with you). 

Seems pretty important to you that you think that Camelot is some sort of invincible fighting force though.  Good luck with that.

Seems to me that you are a very bad loser. 😂

[AustinH]

12 hours ago, George Clooney said:

WTF wasn't involved in https://ctowned.net/conflicts/camvscoal

You asked me a single thing you said that was wrong.  I've done that.

I think maybe you are confusing two different conflict. 

Also, WTF always takes a lot of infra damage up front in wars (our tendency to rebuild and rarely raid means that we go into fights fat and lean down as the war progresses), and it skews the damage cost data.  The data from the war I fought in clearly shows that Arrgh did massive damage to you, far more than WTF did, thus why I have renewed respect for them as assault troops.  Not sure if your data here is from the war we fought in, or mix of data at this point (FYI: my nation's military was maxed out at the end of the war we had with you). 

Seems pretty important to you that you think that Camelot is some sort of invincible fighting force though.  Good luck with that.

Nokia also this is your reply

TCM signed a treaty with NPO while our war against them was ongoing. In our view that was a declaration of war because their treaty explicitly stated they would defend NPO. WTF had by that point peaced out but that does not separate the two conflicts. Momento Mori and Arrgh were both part of NPO's original coalition but the war didn't end when they left nor was it split up.
 
When you attacked all our protectorates you unilaterally added them to the war on our side. Why were we alone barred from unilaterally hitting TCM and adding them to the war?
 
The data shows that WTF is woefully incompetent. The indisputable fact is that they were carried by mercenaries for 2 months. Camelot was losing for those first two months. We had to grind Arrgh and drag down Momento Mori and that was no easy feat because we recognize they are some of the most talented fighters in the game. There's a lot of mutual respect between us and the mercenaries but none for you and NPO.
 
Camelot is not invincible. It has been bruised and bloodied by great powers and minor powers alike. What sets us apart from WTF is knowing any war could be our last and fighting like it. WTF does think its invincible and while you see that as a strength we see it as a vice. A promise that you will become a relic and a ruin while we burn fast and bright.

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

[Nokia Rokia]

On 11/27/2023 at 6:40 AM, AustinH said:

Nokia also this is your reply

TCM signed a treaty with NPO while our war against them was ongoing. In our view that was a declaration of war because their treaty explicitly stated they would defend NPO. WTF had by that point peaced out but that does not separate the two conflicts. Momento Mori and Arrgh were both part of NPO's original coalition but the war didn't end when they left nor was it split up.
 
When you attacked all our protectorates you unilaterally added them to the war on our side. Why were we alone barred from unilaterally hitting TCM and adding them to the war?

Gonna Snip the stuff related to TCM.

For one signing a new treaty while wars are ongoing is normal in this game not my problem Camelot is half braindead and ran by a egotistical person.

In addition our treaty did not say we would defend NpO in the ongoing conflict as Camelot was made aware of.

We had zero desire and zero obligations to join the war in fact ongoing wars from prior to the treaty signing are explicitly stated as not our wars a fact Camelot was made aware of.

Lastly we never hit any Camelot prots they hit us.

Just because Camelot was losing after declaring and had to call all their prots to save them and we started winning is not us hitting them.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Nokia Rokia