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Perhaps if you actually read what the nerfs would do you might have a valid opinion but the nerfs would make baseball not worth playing any longer which is just what pre wants. But I'm sure you already know this.

How about this. Split baseball into two leagues, Minor League and Major League. For Minor League you go ahead and do the nerfs you want but for Major League you leave it just the way it is right now. Minor League would be free as it is now but Major League would be like VIP, 1 credit for 60 days of access. That way sheepy gets paid as well. There should be 1 addition to both leagues though, a 1 click button to upgrade your players. Please don't complain that this would make P&W pay to win as it already is when you can make $400 million per month by cashing in credits for cash.

Are you also going to punish the people that spend hours every day trading and raiding?

Sheepy will never do that, he makes money off the rewarded ads.

I click the button for every game I play. I have been playing this game for 2320 days, that's over 6 years. Most people would say I should have many more cities than I do for the time I have been playing. You really are a terrible troll. Over the life time of my nation I have averaged playing 681 games per day. That really isn't all that much and I click the button for every one of them. No bots or cheating involved so I would suggest that you learn how baseball works before you accuse people of cheating. It must be exhausting being in an alliance with you.

I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said you could do it using Doc's script, I didn't say I used Doc's script which I do not. I use an older script that is slower and takes about 45 minutes to play 250 games. Perhaps sheepy should just ban all scripts used in the game, that would be fun wouldn't it?

I guess you really can't troll any better. Oh well. Well, you see, sheepy doesn't make any money from baseball after all so yeah.

First, baseball has changed a lot over the years but right now if you use Doc's script you can play your 250 home games in less than 15 minutes I believe. So if you max out your team to 100 level you can make that money back in around 12 days at 15 minutes per day and then you are making however much money per day as you want to take the time to play. As for most of the people playing being upper tier nations, this is just not true. I know of several 3 and 4 city nations that have 100 level teams and play away games for tips. While some players do embargo low level players, I personally only did it if they were playing away games. I don't care if they play home games when I was playing away games. Low level teams should only be playing home games anyway. Surely you can troll better than this... maybe not.

You only earn 100% income from baseball for the first 250 games you play each day, home or away. After that you only earn 10% for each game. If you nerf baseball too much or just remove it from the game you will probably see a good sized drop in activity in the game because people will have no reason to log in more than once per day, if that. Trading is dominated by a few nations that use scripts to tell them when they have been undercut so they can then come back and do the same so the smaller players will just get tired of that and not trade.

Pre just has a hard-on for baseball and has for a very long time. Quite frankly he should just be removed from the dev team because of his constant desire to kill something that anyone in the game can use equally. He seems obsessed with killing something that new players can use to help them boost their nations quickly which is something sheepy seems to desire.

Well hell guys, if you hate it so much just suck up your courage, get together and do something about it. Otherwise please shuuuuut uuuuuup.

Perhaps none of us want to waste out time, effort, money and resources with your sorry asses right now? Did you ever think of that? I know thinking is not you peoples strong suit but you really should try it sometime.

So Rose is disbanding then?

Does this mean that if a nation wins 4 wars in a day they can then rebuild 100% of the military units in one go and not have to wait the extra days to rebuild? Or one side could all hit VM for a few weeks thus losing very little and killing activity in the game. Are the loot rules for beige still going to be applied the same? If 2 nations fight a war to a draw why should 1 of those nations be punished by losing loot and infra from a beige

Yeah, I can't imagine why such a thing would happen. Perhaps you might have an idea why this occurred?

So we are now protecting The Garden of Eden and Eden or did they just change their name.

Tsk, you should know by now that WANA doesn't speak the truth. Tarroc, Tarroc, Tarroc 1) see above 2) the reason this treaty happened is because TS and Rose both have lazy and crappy leadership. I guess we will just have to wait and see whether or not you folks are being truthful this time.

Yes, but you can't make anywhere near the $11 billion I have made in the last 6 years now due to the 250 game limit so that is just out there to get you attention and can't be replicated any longer. Most of that was made back when you could play unlimited games and there were a few people running bots. Now if I play 250 away games against another 100 level team, if they tip me, I can make any where from $1.45 to $1.65 million due to sheepys RNG. So I would have to play 4 different 100 level players to make that $6 million. That rarely happens these days and every time I have a player retire it costs roughly $3 million to level that player so every time that happens I may or may not make any money that day. Also, if they make it so you can't play baseball while you are blockaded I would imagine you will start seeing a higher turn over of small nations and more bigger nation hitting long term VM during curb stomp wars so good luck with player retention.

Perhaps you could give us the numbers from when you nerfed baseball to the full revenue for the first 250 games until now to get a true picture of how much money is being added to the game now?

The problem with this is that the game developers constantly and consistently under estimate the ability of the players to find ways to quickly out grow the limits that the developers try to impose on the game.

First of all, what are those numbers in context to? Per person, per day, per person per day? Next, here are my number per your own display: Founded: 02/01/2016 (2,230 Days Old) The Dont Know Dont Cares have an overall record of 1,055,787 wins and 436,635 losses. In their history they have scored 5,498,676 runs, 2,854,020 of which were home runs, and they have pitched 31,378,918 strikeouts. Money Invested: $731,003,500.00 | Money Earned: $11,593,637,936.15 As you can see, I have been playing P&W for a little over 6 years now and except for a few months after NPOLT I have been playing baseball every day. Although with how often your coding breaks I doubt those figures are accurate. As an aside, most of the money I made was before the nerfs after NPOLT. A period of time when you were deaf and dumb to with regards to baseball. There were days when I was making $35-40 million per day playing baseball because there were people so obviously using bots which you could have seen if you had bothered to look. As for botting, if you would bother to check the time between games played and how long people play it would be very easy to spot the people using bots. When you have someone playing a game a second for 10 hours a day with no breaks it's pretty glaring. No one is playing like that now though. At least not that I have noticed. For the record, I do not nor have I ever used a bot. I am old and retired so I have plenty of time through out the day to play baseball so please do not accuse me of using a bot again. If you really want to know who was botting back in the day you should check this nation https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=132570 Cities and rebuilding after wars. So many rebuilds.

You don't actually think they will bestir themselves to investigate a couple of people that may be using a bot do you? It's much easier to punish the many for the sins of the few.

Good luck getting anything out of the dev team that doesn't fit sheepy or pre's narrative

So what we learn from this is that sheepy is fine with scripts that make him money but hates baseball because it doesn't. What a lovely attitude.

I am quite cooled down. I am just tired of the dev team focusing on things that don't matter to the majority of the game while not fixing things that affect 100% of the game which is what you should be doing.