Strange, Mensent 16 cities, Hellsing 15 cities, Antipodea 20 cities... Dacta 16 cities. Yeah I had 5 cities more than all my targets. Mmmmmhmm. And trying to go back to the numbers argument remains invalid because again, it was 18v14, which is actually still more fair than the 14v8 Oblivion is trying to pass off as "fair". With some actual leadership and proper commanding, they had the opportunity to break out and turn it into an actual fight for at least the first round, but they were too busy having already surrendered.