Helios Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 1st Nation title: Central African Republic https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=161923 2nd Nation title: South Canada https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=163594 Suspecting evidence: Sharing the same network, In the same alliance, Sending money with another, Fighting the same nation, Active on the same time Also want to report a straightforward game violation: Using inapporiate words for war declaration. Edited August 6, 2019 by Helios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2019 They're both Verified (you'll notice the blue checkmarks on their nation pages) so they've been manually verified as independent persons. Therefore they're not in violations of the multi rules. However, I'll look into the war declaration reason issue. 1 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 Thanks for your response, but just as a side note, these two nations have been harassing me for the third time in this war; they both declared war on me in the first round, doesn't that violate the rule which states two nations sharing the same network cannot engage the same target? How about the resource funneling? Doesn't that violate the rule too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) Quote Multiple Nations on the Same Network Each player is allowed to have one account and nation. Having multiple nations is a bannable violation. There is no limit on the number of nations that can play per network, so long as each nation is owned and controlled by a separate individual. Some restrictions will be imposed automatically on nations on the same network to prevent cheating. Using Alliance Banks to evade trade restrictions imposed on nations on the same network is a bannable offense. Two nations on the same network are allowed to be in the same alliance, but they are not allowed to declare war on the same nation. Failure to follow this rule will result in a nation strike the first time, and a ban the second time. They are fighting the same Nation. Though I suppose they technically haven't declared on the same Nation. Though you could say South Canada has declared on the same Nation that is at war with Central African Republic. Ultimately depends on the interpretation of the rules. 08/06/2019 12:03 am Attrition Raid Zero GoonBusterElectric Space Central African Republic BartlebyArrgh Active WarTimeline 08/06/2019 01:59 am Raid South Canada KangArrgh Raid Zero GoonBusterElectric Space Active WarTimeline Also has happened here too: 07/27/2019 10:07 am Attrition Rivers TamiThe Commonwealth South Canada KangArrgh DefeatTimeline 07/28/2019 04:39 pm Attrition Central African Republic BartlebyArrgh Rivers TamiThe Commonwealth DefeatTimeline Edited August 7, 2019 by Tiberius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 Didn't know he/she/they do this to other nations as well... Except the fact that these nations are verified, I don't see a reason that supports that they are not a multi. Please investigate P.S. Verification can be exploited very easily, I can literially get a friend to do the process (and repeat monthly cause why not) and create a multi account for myself. Unless there is a counter argument which I don't know yet, Verification basically is a protection against reports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) This is from another forum post, but yea... this guy have definetly broke the rule Edited August 7, 2019 by Helios spelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2019 21 hours ago, Helios said: Thanks for your response, but just as a side note, these two nations have been harassing me for the third time in this war; they both declared war on me in the first round, doesn't that violate the rule which states two nations sharing the same network cannot engage the same target? How about the resource funneling? Doesn't that violate the rule too? It's not against the rules if they're Verified. Verification lets people interact without restrictions, as if they weren't on the same network. It's for family members, co-workers, etc. Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 Verified = Invincible Cheaters, heres your chance, if you want to play multi, just do as I say, grab a friend, have him/her take a picture and do that verification, you are invincible from then on. If you were banned by Alex for multiboxing, you have your resurrection, go gang on your enemy, go sending resources, double income, double military, double everything, its all yours. He would have no clue. Alex, I hope you get it, please fix your game rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 8, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Helios said: Verified = Invincible Cheaters, heres your chance, if you want to play multi, just do as I say, grab a friend, have him/her take a picture and do that verification, you are invincible from then on. If you were banned by Alex for multiboxing, you have your resurrection, go gang on your enemy, go sending resources, double income, double military, double everything, its all yours. He would have no clue. Alex, I hope you get it, please fix your game rules. It's not a perfect system, but to date we haven't identified anyone who's done this. Most people are very hesitant to send pictures of themselves to some guy on the internet (and rightfully so.) However, there's not really a better system without being more invasive (pictures of government issued IDs, for example.) What's your better suggestion? Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 It's your game, what are you going to do? I'm in no stance to tell you what to do. According to his behavior stated above, if he isn't verified, would you swing the ban hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 10, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 6:32 PM, Helios said: It's your game, what are you going to do? I'm in no stance to tell you what to do. According to his behavior stated above, if he isn't verified, would you swing the ban hammer? Yes, as you pointed out they would certainly be in violation of the rules if we hadn't manually identified them as separate individuals who happen to be playing on the same network. Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Alex said: Yes, as you pointed out they would certainly be in violation of the rules if we hadn't manually identified them as separate individuals who happen to be playing on the same network. Some restrictions will be imposed automatically on nations on the same network to prevent cheating. Using Alliance Banks to evade trade restrictions imposed on nations on the same network is a bannable offense. Two nations on the same network are allowed to be in the same alliance, but they are not allowed to declare war on the same nation. Failure to follow this rule will result in a nation strike the first time, and a ban the second time. Can you update the rules to say two Nations on the same network can also declare on the same Nation then please? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 14, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 12:02 PM, Tiberius said: Some restrictions will be imposed automatically on nations on the same network to prevent cheating. Using Alliance Banks to evade trade restrictions imposed on nations on the same network is a bannable offense. Two nations on the same network are allowed to be in the same alliance, but they are not allowed to declare war on the same nation. Failure to follow this rule will result in a nation strike the first time, and a ban the second time. Can you update the rules to say two Nations on the same network can also declare on the same Nation then please? That's only the case if they're Verified (in which case they're exempt from the other rules as well, such as using alliance banks to transfer funds, or trading resources directly, etc.) Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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