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I'd agree with that, and it's well known that one of the things that makes ISIS attractive was that they paid good salaries, regularly (though I'm not sure if that's still the case today). What I'm pointing out though is that Sunni anti-Persian sentiment in Iraq goes all the way back to the Battle of Qadisiyyah in 636 in present-day Iraq where the forces of the Arab Islamic Caliphate defeated the non-Muslim Persian Empire (today Iran). To Iraq's Sunnis this was like the founding of the Iraqi Arab nation, this isn't a "doctrine" only the highly-educated believe, it's something deeply embedded in the Sunni-Iraqi-Arab consciousness, so it's understandable why anti-Persian/Kurd (Kurds are an Iranian people remember) racism has such a solid foundation. To many Iraqi Sunnis the Shia majority aren't even citizens, they're foreigners from Iran.

 

Well their money supply has been hit not that long ago so it's likely decreased, but still plenty of "spoils" when you count all the women and children they attack.

 

Well that is true enough. The ridiculous Sunni-Shia hatred at work there. 

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Arab nationalism was a positive and progressive movement, and actually had great success in unifying the Arab masses, abolishing old tribalism and fighting both Western and Zionist imperialism. That said, it degenerated significantly, especially after the death of Nasser, and essentially became a racist chauvinistic form of nationalism, resulting in Saddam's war against Persian Iran and his genocidal Al-Anfal Campaign against the Kurds, ie Arab nationalism became the very imperialist menace it fought against. Because of that it's not surprising that many of Saddam's old henchmen easily transitioned into Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

Jews are not evil, deal with it. They have caused so much good in the world, while Communists killed off around 1.25% of the world's population... So yeah, I would rather take living in Israel over living in a communist nation.

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Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism, deal with it. Zionism is Jewish chauvinistic nationalism. The establishment of Israel was undoubtedly an aggressive imperialist act. The state was formed by European immigrants who were illegally infiltrating Palestine, that is the definition of colonization. Israel has since it's establishment been nothing but a pawn of Western imperialism in Arab lands, it has sided with the US/allies in every major issue, de-facto it is a US puppet.

 

You talk about the massacres of communism but I don't think I've ever heard you talking much about the anti-Slavic, anti-Communist genocide that was perpetrated against the Russian/Slavic peoples by the Nazi's.

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Jews are not evil, deal with it. They have caused so much good in the world, while Communists killed off around 1.25% of the world's population... So yeah, I would rather take living in Israel over living in a communist nation.

 

Weird, usually a person who responsible to the american market crash, Communist massacre was the Zionist Bolshevik itself

 

Karl Marx was a Jewish himself, remember that.

 

God I'm going to jail tonight...

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Weird, usually a person who responsible to the american market crash, Communist massacre was the Zionist Bolshevik itself

 

Karl Marx was a Jewish himself, remember that.

 

God I'm going to jail tonight...

Being born Jewish /=/ being Jewish

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Weird, usually a person who responsible to the american market crash, Communist massacre was the Zionist Bolshevik itself

 

Karl Marx was a Jewish himself, remember that.

 

God I'm going to jail tonight...

Really? Morons are still recycling the old "Judeo-Bolshevism" garbage from old black and white Nazi propaganda films? It's getting a bit old. And who cares that Marx was Jewish.

 

Also Zionist Bolshevik? The USSR was the biggest enemy of Israel during the Cold War, all the military equipment Egypt and Syria got was from the USSR. If Marxism really was a Zionist conspiracy then I think someone must have been one big epic screw-up.

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Really? Morons are still recycling the old "Judeo-Bolshevism" garbage from old black and white Nazi propaganda films? It's getting a bit old. And who cares that Marx was Jewish.

 

Also Zionist Bolshevik? The USSR was the biggest enemy of Israel during the Cold War, all the military equipment Egypt and Syria got was from the USSR. If Marxism really was a Zionist conspiracy then I think someone must have been one big epic screw-up.

Then why the Soviet Union hand in hand with "le ebil bourgeoisie boogeyman" capitalist in England and declare war against Nazi Germany just because the Holocaust?

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Then why the Soviet Union hand in hand with "le ebil bourgeoisie boogeyman" capitalist in England and declare war against Nazi Germany just because the Holocaust?

Wut? The Holocaust wasn't known about in any great detail until after the war was over. The Soviet Union didn't "declare war" on Germany, they were invaded by Germany. Britain and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland.

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Any counter argument should be backed up with actual statistics. Debate...

 

Right...... 

I request a detailed methodology of how these statistics were compiled, because I know it doesn't exist. Mostly because these numbers don't even add up to the actual death toll or the civilian casualties documented by the opposition forces themselves. Not to mention what Roz said is very true:

 

The source you quoted is known propaganda front funded by the EU orginally to push regime change

 

 

Their propaganda and website isn't even well made. 

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Also, obligatory show of support for Assad!

 

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Most of the Civil War in Syria can actually be put down to Assad's own mistakes. Trying to convert the economy from a socialist-style Baathist economy with state-ownership and subsidies for the poor/rural people to a market capitalist system, the result being that the rural people lost hope and were ripe for recruitment by Islamist propaganda. And also of course allowing the Islamists in Iraq to use Syria as a base during their insurgency against the Americans, result being that the Islamists were allowed free reign to recruit and spread propaganda in Syria's countryside. Of course much of the blame goes to the Saudis, Qataris, Turks for supporting the rebels, but the uprising would probably have never even occurred if not for Assad's attempt at liberalization and bringing the country into the imperialist world system of capital (similar situation with Gaddadi and Libya). His father Hafez suffered an Islamist uprising centered on Homs and he crushed it very quickly.

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The biggest mass murderer of all time was Adolf Hitler...he and his Nazi Party killed 6 million jews. 

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Most of the Civil War in Syria can actually be put down to Assad's own mistakes. Trying to convert the economy from a socialist-style Baathist economy with state-ownership and subsidies for the poor/rural people to a market capitalist system, the result being that the rural people lost hope and were ripe for recruitment by Islamist propaganda. And also of course allowing the Islamists in Iraq to use Syria as a base during their insurgency against the Americans, result being that the Islamists were allowed free reign to recruit and spread propaganda in Syria's countryside. Of course much of the blame goes to the Saudis, Qataris, Turks for supporting the rebels, but the uprising would probably have never even occurred if not for Assad's attempt at liberalization and bringing the country into the imperialist world system of capital (similar situation with Gaddadi and Libya). His father Hafez suffered an Islamist uprising centered on Homs and he crushed it very quickly.

1. Years of western produced anti-government propaganda being funneled into Syria.

2. The invasion of Iraq.

3. Drought.

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Most of the Civil War in Syria can actually be put down to Assad's own mistakes. Trying to convert the economy from a socialist-style Baathist economy with state-ownership and subsidies for the poor/rural people to a market capitalist system, the result being that the rural people lost hope and were ripe for recruitment by Islamist propaganda. And also of course allowing the Islamists in Iraq to use Syria as a base during their insurgency against the Americans, result being that the Islamists were allowed free reign to recruit and spread propaganda in Syria's countryside. Of course much of the blame goes to the Saudis, Qataris, Turks for supporting the rebels, but the uprising would probably have never even occurred if not for Assad's attempt at liberalization and bringing the country into the imperialist world system of capital (similar situation with Gaddadi and Libya). His father Hafez suffered an Islamist uprising centered on Homs and he crushed it very quickly.

You are seriously blaming market capitalism for the Syrian Civil War?

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