Hubotz

Anyone can see your ongoing and past wars, so the anonymity is null. The most pertinent evidence for multiaccounting is the two nations being on the same IP. You can check for that sort of thing, although I don't know how.

Excellent question! A conservative estimate for the amount entering my nation daily is 2M at worst. This is perhaps the collective least quantity people indebted to me have paid back in a day. If every day were a bad day, then we would expect to have 14M by the end of the week more than I did to start. This however, assumes I do absolutely nothing with the physical 20M, which would be absurd. Less than 40M is currently circulating in and out of my nation, so stacking a further 20M on that would hopefully increase 14M/week by at least half, so that leaves me 21M richer. Now, you'll note that the total sum promised to be repaid was 22M. Given that every estimate I made above was rounded down, I think I could expect at least 1M to pop out of the difference. Finally, I still have a couple million in pocket change I haven't accounted for I can round it over with if that doesn't happen. Perhaps is a more pertinent question is, what happens when the big boys get fed up with my capitalist ways and decide to roll me? Well, BK is storing 40M for me that will be accessible in 4 weeks, so if all my outgoing loans default and I get ZIed, you can have that collection of pixels in about a month, double the original sum. ...Besides, if anyone dares to try something like that they know I will just EMBARGO THEM TO DEATH, so clearly no one will even try.

Guess what, that's what loans are for! Funny how all this money stuff works out, eh? Cheers to you and your patron font as well.

Not currently doing business with members of Alpha: We apologize profusely for the inconvenience and hope the matter is resolved soon. ___ Here in the Veritum Economic Sector, we love money. In fact, we love money so much that we are willing to pay you money to hold some of your money. Basically, just hand us some cash and we will give 108% of it back, that is, all of it plus 8% interest, within a week. Quantities less than $1,000,000 probably aren't worth the effort to juggle transactions around for, and at that scale you're probably better off buying infra or something. If I somehow fail to meet the deadline, you can consider me indebted to you double the original quantity. Bond Cap: $0/$40,000,000 Money Cycled To Date: $37,250,000 Active Bonds:

Aw come now, my dear Hooves, don't be so skeptical! What did you expect me to do, join an alliance? You're just jelly because the Serene Sakura Union didn't think of this first. I want Optional Defense / Mandatory Aggression Treaties to be a thing. That sounds like it would be hilarious.

The Chola - Veritum Economic Agreement. Part 1: Non-Aggression. The signed parties agree to maintain friendly relations with each other. Part 2: Economics. Veritum will provide its economic services to members of The Chola at reduced rates while funds allow, and members of The Chola will take priority in queues. Veritum will establish a reserve of capital exclusively for business with The Chola members. The Chola will cover losses such as loan defaults that result from business with The Chola members. As a result of The Chola's NIO Protectorate Treaty, this clause applies also to The NIO Protectorate. Part 3: Defense. If Veritum is under assault by raiders, The Chola may be called upon defend Veritum. Each party will avoid engaging in operations that might pose a threat to the other's security. Part 4: Agreement Cancellation. In the event that a party wishes to cancel the agreement, they shall contact the other party and the cancellation shall be take effect in 72 hours. Outstanding debts shall still be resolved. tl;dr version Veritum is now a protectorate of The Chola and will provide loans n' things to its protector. Signed for the Chola, King Aerys Targaryen. Signed for Veritum, Hubotz.

I currently have an open embargo on the alliance Viridian Entente. However, justagirlwithabox (https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=26117), who is in Viridian Entente, sees normally and is able to accept my public aluminum sell offer. Mind taking a look, Sheepy?

The Veritum economic sector has recently formed a business partnership with The Chola and will be providing their members with discounted loans and assorted economic meddling to help them on their way in becoming the richest alliance ever. o/ The Chola

Wouldn't that amount to paying him to not make forum posts, except in a roundabout way such that the money doesn't actually go to him? Wait, I think that might be the point.

I would switch out the tanks for planes, personally. Raiders either won't be able to break your infantry or will have a tank force, and in the latter case they won't raid you since you can probably put them in the red profit-wise just by airstriking their tanks and infrastructure. They would need a comparable airforce and ground control to contest you in that case, and by that time they are already out of range.

My mistake then, that would be 3800 infrastructure before any further expansion serves only to increase population. According to https://politicsandwar.com/tools/infra with both Autocracy and Center for Civil Engineering, For max efficiency, please buy up to the nearest 100s, and then buy in chunks of 100. The cost for your purchase query is approximately: $106,782,372.47 That's quite a bit less than I expected, actually.

Even with 115% commerce though, 3 out of 5 supermarkets are still useless. That would be 74 non-power useful improvements, which is 3700 unpowered infrastructure, plus 4 nuclear power plants is 3900. EDIT: j/k apparently 2 nuclear plants makes 3800.

Hubotz here! I stockpiled quite a bit of cash by joining at the beginning of a war and getting to work scalping immediately. Alas, the markets have becomes more fair with the end of the war, and I have turned to loans and bonds as a less labor intensive and more profitable investment for my capital. I agree with some parts of your analysis, but not others. Scalpers are indeed looked upon unfavorably, but it is important to realize that they a major force driving the market to equilibrium. The alternative to scalping is collusion, which freezes the buy/sell spread and forces people looking to sell the resources they actually manufactured or buy the resources they will actually consume to either accept an existing unfavorable offer or wait in a long line behind market profiteers. Scalpers doing their thing drives both ends of the market price towards the middle, which is the natural state of things. Of course, scalpers abandon the market once the spread gets too low to be worth the effort of exploiting, resulting in the 30-70 price gaps we see in most resources at the present. Additionally, even with larger price gaps, I don't think constant undercutting price wars should be a big deal to people who aren't playing the market because: If you need the resources, you deserve to be buying unfavorably, and if you need the cash, you deserve to be selling unfavorably. This is the nature of markets. If I am a scalper, I want as much profit as I can get, so I'll be constantly undercutting for the best prices at the cost of the spending the most time. If I am being raided and need to build a military, I need resources now, so I will accept existing offers for the worst prices, essentially paying extra for getting the resources instantly and effort-free. There is an alternative, however. If you are casually selling or buying resources, and don't want to fight price wars but also don't want the worst prices, just go in the middle. Scalpers wont touch you because undercutting you will burn half their profit, and will either buy you out or wait for someone to take your offer, which more often than not will happen pretty quickly. If everyone started doing this, the market would end up at equilibrium immediately, and scalping would be dead. I don't think complaining about prices is ever justified, really, because you are the one controlling your own offer. If you don't fight the scalpers, you don't deserve the prices they get, because apparently they want those prices more than you do, and thus deserve them. The fact that the price spread exists at all just opens opportunities for better prices than equilibrium offers given enough effort. A fairer market means less profit for the profit-minded and less antiprofit for the desperate, but truthfully, the vast majority of people fit neither category. I believe the notion that with large price spreads one must 'always have to put in Buy offers to get a decent price' is simply wrong, because the decent price, the one you would be getting if the market was fair, is already open game; the scalpers are merely fighting over the best price without detriment to those who wanted the market to be fair. Of course, my entire spiel is losing relevance, since, as a result of people properly buying and selling at "medium" prices or of the frenzied efforts of scalpers, the price spreads have shrunk considerably. My point is merely this: what has changed isn't that it's easier for people to get decent prices, the worst prices have simply become less bad, with the cost of the best prices becoming less good. If the price spreads die, then everyone making offers will form two lines, one for Buy offers and one for Sell offers, $1 apart. Since I doubt anyone cares about the $1 PPU, however, I would expect the lines to just mutually annihilate in general, and I cannot guess what might be the result. But until that happens, stop complaining and either accept that greed takes effort, or give up and just go in the middle. PS: Indeed, $1M is worth far more sentimentally to a small nation than a large one, and has a way larger return on investment too. This is why bonds and loans exist, to redistribute money to those who need it from those who don't.

Made a fancy spreadsheet so I don't have to manually update things as often. Also, bump.

Ha, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but the last impression I have of you was a spiel about pillaging LoN If Odd Squad or er, yourself have any other nations/alliances they want to deal massive infrastructural damage to, you can PM me about it, but I highly doubt I'd take you up on it unless they did something *really* bad.

I am not looking to wage an alliance war against League of Nations, but thank you anyway :u

Alrighty, $6M is on the table again.

No money! Loans are closed! If you want, you can still post/PM requests to hold a spot in line, and I'll reply when I have sufficient funds and ask if you're still interested.

That is acceptable to me! You can take a cut of any contracts that go through you for your bank I guess, make sure nobody steals it

It's over! Demilitarization has begun. Sorry! Not currently doing business with members of Viridian Entente: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9519-/ We apologize profusely for the inconvenience and hope the matter is resolved soon. _____ I have recently spent perhaps $20M completely militarizing my nation in order to curbstomp three raiders at once. Combining my hatred of raiders with a desire to recoup some of my expenses leads naturally to this service. I will assist your nation militarily if you fit these criteria: - Your enemies are the aggressors, not you. - Your enemies are not in the alliance I currently am sheltered in. - The conflict is a result a raid perpetrated against you, not of an alliance war. - Your opponents fall within my war range. PM me to inquire more about this. All payment is deferred to post-conflict. We will charge a base rate of $300,000 and then additional fees based on expenses, reparations obtained, and overall performance. If the operation is a failure and you are beiged, rolled, or achieve unfavorable peace terms, your money will be fully or partially refunded. Since you will likely be unable to pay the costs immediately, I will treat your debt as I would a loan with 1% daily interest. All conditions are subject to negotiation.

I'm not involved either, as stetonic was nice enough to point out #RozWei-nobody Wait, are you kidding? DEIC evidently had another 450M stashed somewhere, that got moved from wherever-it-was to DEIC bank between 11/4 and 11/6, and then moved straight into Clarke's pocket on 11/6? I would kindly like to request the DEIC give a honest evaluation of their total net worth.

Ha, I felt like I was too grimdark with you, and I actually had some sort of leverage against Clarke, so I tried to be nice about it.

Yeah, I'm probably pretty bad at blackmail. That was like, my second time probably?I'm sorry I didn't try harder; I set a deadline for you and stuff to say something productive. Also, if the money was held by your sister and subsequently lost to the world, you probably should have just told me; it's a reasonably innocuous explanation. My use of smiley faces was of course, to make the whole experience much more pleasant. Blackmail doesn't have to hurt, you know! Edit: By the way, stetonic is embargoing me for the reason "I know what you did last summer". Can someone tell me what he refers to?

Wait, so I can't make angry posts about stetonic or Kastor either? aaawwww

If I am a 22-day old nobody, then I am not a multiaccounter. If I am a multiaccounter, then I presumably am not a 22-day old nobody. You may only make one accusation here; choose wisely. The reason Clarke should have cooperated with me and either offered me money or humored my curiosity is because I was blackmailing him. That is all. We played politics, and we both lost, because I did not receive any money and my curiosity is not satisfied, and you have to deal with this. While I appreciate the kind words of Dr. Rush, I must admit my youth as a nation indeed puts me at a small disadvantage as to making a significant impact on Orbis. Of course, I have done my best to compensate through being active and being of above-average competence. My failure to successfully blackmail Clarke is evident of the disadvantage I hold as a younger nation. I hope you will excuse my impudence.