James II

I didn't make any post aside from collecting the 50,000 before the war broke out.... Oh and announced a treaty signing.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. How does that counter that Pfieffer approached me with hostility before I knew anything about Mensa?

I never had spoken to him before or said a thing about Mensa when he greeted me. So no, he had no reason to approach me in the manner that he did.

I'm sorry you never learned about inductive arguments. They even teach it to you in 9th grade science in the U.S. We're on his ----list because we are allied to rose. He has a problem with us because we are allied to rose. I'm sorry you feel that way.

He's the Picasso of our time.

Why would I not be upset about someone who greeted me with hostility and propositioned attacking the alliance I was in?

Pfeiffer makes it very clear his intention to ally Alpha is to get at Rose. He greeted me with hostility and said "cut from the same Cloth" as Rose. It's not until after he propositions a treaty that he decides "I don't have a problem with Alpha." Why would it even come up in discussion and why was it discussed only until it was leaked that Alpha was a potential target?

You see nothing wrong with your first statement? You've got it, lights are flashing, you can do it! Alpha is on Mensa's "---- list" "Mensa wants to ally Alpha" Seriously not clicking?

At the very least, contradict me with a "NO U."

You don't exactly put people on your shitlist you like. If you'd like to call hate to strong of a word that's fair. But implicating Mensa likes anyone tied to Rose after that comment isn't accurate. Pot meet kettle? "Clearly saying this on Rose's behalf?" This is an interesting accusation. "Clearly" Implicates I am incapable of coming up with my own opinion. Not only have you insulted my capapbilities, you have demonstrated you are incapable of induction. The word "clearly" argues there are no other possibilities. So I think it's fair to say you are trying a bit hard here....pot meet kettle.

DEIC is allied to Rose. Read the first comment. where did you get Arbitrary from? The only alliance I've seen proposing arbitrary treaties is Mensa.

Don't forget Alpha has an intelligence clause with Rose people.

Oops wrong place.

*ignores OOC attacks* *ignores Pfeiffer hates DEIC* *ignores Pfeiffer only signs treaties as a matter of convenience* *restates what every side has said already.* seems legit This argument is real legit. I give up.

I wonder how DEIC feels about this. Apparently Pfeiffer doesn't like them. Apparently they only want to treaty out of convenience. Guess this makes it more evident they don't actually care about their allies.

If you won't say it I will. The "ooc attack" was a picture that Pfieffer himself posted on the OWF, the picture was reposted with a caption to the extent of "We are coming for you Mensa." Also, I still don't understand where you are getting that it was Oblige that did it. You're going off of Pfeiffer's word. I don't see you condeming Pfeiffer's OOC attacks. Is UPN typically known for Hypocrisy and lack of fact checking?

Is he really comparing ISIS to Guardian?

Lets assume I don't know what the 'ad' was and the OOC attack was as horrible as you say it was, why is Pfeiffer excused from his much worse OOC attacks?

Lol Mensa was planning on hitting Alpha. What are you talking about?

And they don't look like idiots by hitting Vanguard and nothing happening? Double standards galore here. Pfeiffer makes horrible comments, nothing. Rose re-post Pfeiffers picture. Terrible Mensa hits Vanguard. "Smart decisions" Rose hits tS. "You guys are dumb."

I don't want Pfeiffer declaring war on Alpha for it. Plus no one on Rose's side has it. Pfeiffer has the only copy, you could probably find it in the VIP section since Pfeiffer posted the picture of himself before anything was ever done.

You haven't even seen the "Attack." It really is far from offensive.

The ad was not an OOC attack, it didn't even invade privacy. "We are coming for you Mensa" is the extent of the wording. I have logs of Pfeiffer with some nasty OOC attacks on other memebrs though. Don't see you holding him to the same standard.

Mensa had no Casus Belli on Vanguard or Rose's protectrate. This is the card your side played, this is a card you knew about. Don't pretend to be a victim to something you encouraged.

How can you criticise Rose for hitting a Mensa ally who has been antagonistic and supported Mensa actions even though they hadn't even seen the ad? Mensa hit two Rose allies "because Pfeiffer's feelings were hurt." If anyone had seen the ad they would know it was not an OOC attack at all, nor was privacy invaded. Rose has more right to hit tS than Mensa has to hit Vanguard and that protectrate whose name I can't spell of the top of my head.