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    Exploiting a Naval glitch doesn't make you a better player

    in Orbis Central

    Posted · Edited by Inst

    We can't actually prove you did it on purpose, and in my opinion, it's just as likely that it's an accident. Right now, my compendium tracks 3 t$ e$ having been advantaged by the glitch, one Typhon accused of having been advantaged by the glitch, one Empyrea member having been advantaged by the glitch, and two GOONS members who have been advantaged by the glitch, one involving an alliance on their own sphere and involving a war that was quickly peaced out.

     

    The best response for all involved right now would be for Alex to announce the glitch, as well as that he's tracking the glitch, and that further incidents would be considered intentional and be punished by a nation strike. This should be reiterated on the naval attack page, or alternately, that naval attacks involve a pop-up that issues the glitch warning about the update.

     

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    The odd thing I would put, however, is that House Stark and so on have been encouraging naval-intensive warfare on nations that have been deprived of their infra, which would create an increased incidence of the glitch. I'd also point out that this glitch was reported a few updates ago, yet we had further incidents of this by t$/e$. It could be just the inability for information to trickle down to alliance members, but it would have been better if t$/e$ had avoided glitching or used "safe" wars involving members of their own coalition testing features.

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    Naval Glitching Compendium

    in Tech Support

    Posted · Edited by Inst
    Was informed by TCW I missed a war, vetted it myself,

    In the interests of full disclosure and fair play, I'm asking that we list all wars that have been affected by naval glitching here. These nations may or may not have self-reported.

     

    Incidents involving this nation:

     

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=133181

     

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518305

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518171

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518305

     

    Incidents involving this nation:

     

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=132794

     

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518157 (see Oct 4th, 12:04)

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520090

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520159 (see Oct 5th, 12:04)

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    Exploiting a Naval glitch doesn't make you a better player

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    36 minutes ago, Sphinx said:

    Now we all know politics can get heated in this game, but one thing I hope we all agree on is exploiting glitches for ones benefit is poor form and its just makes you look like a pleb. 

    Of course not every Syndicate/Enterprise member has been doing it, but its seems to be far more common with t$/e$ than any other alliance, these are just 2 examples from my gov members but we have many more.. (Yes I am aware that some instances could be accidental but its obvious that some people are exploiting this)

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518155
    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520090

    Instead of suggesting nerfs to baseball why not focus on something that seems to be a chronic problem and is starting to be exploited by bad-actors to affect the outcome of wars? @Alex

    Could you please have you or one of your members put up a full documentation of t$-e$ naval glitching into the "bug reports" section?


    We don't have an idea of the extent of glitch incidence. The apparent incidence rate is with this coming out of two t$-e$ nations so far. This is worth investigation, but does not indicate foul play. If it's significantly more extensive it will require a more critical investigation.

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    Will t$ protect their protectorate?

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Prefonteen said:

    Imagine- if roq hadn't backstabbed tS I'd be forced to argue for his side now. 

    The wording is telling, isn't it? Forced. Like, it'd be against your nature to argue for your former treaty partner. Why have a treaty in the first place, then?

     

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    Nerf Baseball Earnings

    in Game Suggestions

    Posted

    Baseball with its sunk costs and repetitive cow-clicker mechanics is a means of player retention. I can support limiting baseball to a certain "sane" number of games per day, then decreasing baseball earnings as populations get baseball fatigue. But killing baseball altogether is a bad idea.

    [NPO Call to Arms]$yndicate RoH and Treaty Activation

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Windseeker said:

    I'm probably the only one who thought this, but when I saw the 'RoH' I immediately imagined Scooby Doo saying "RUH ROH".

    Have fun breaking more toys, I am kind of curious if the total damages will eventually reach over 2 trillion.

     

    2 trililon? How about 2.5 trillion? You know it's the REAL Knightfall when damages exceed 2x "Knightfall".

    Will t$ protect their protectorate?

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    27 minutes ago, Prefonteen said:

    No, it was not. See: Sphinx quote.

    He said, as he tightly squeezed Roquentins hand.

    I for one am still incredibly close to all my old allies and friends, who did not hold knightfall against me in any way whatsoever! 

    It wouldn't be pragmatic to do so, would it?

    Why does someone always have to cheat?

    in Game Reports

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Who Me said:

    Why would he fortify first then run naval attacks that nullify the fortify?

    e$ member. Possibly believed that he was going to get rescued by his alliance or something or that counters would be available, and then when it was obvious no help was forthcoming, resorted to navals.

     

    I'd also point out that the timeline chosen was merely the most egregious war. There were in fact three wars wherein we saw abnormal attack activity:

     

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518305

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518171

    https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518155

     

    The total number of attacks launched was 17 naval attacks, 8 in one, 4 in another, and 5 in the last.

     

    This contributes to the primary report.

    Why does someone always have to cheat?

    in Game Reports

    Posted

    Just now, Who Me said:

    Exploiting a known bug is in fact cheating and there is no way they did 8 naval attacks by mistake. This person is a cheater and should be banned.

    The other people that encountered the bug and self reported did the right thing and did not intentionally exploit the bug.

    TBH, there's a few things that definitely went wrong here.

     

    First, I know Josh and he's somewhat inexperienced. This thread should not have been posted in Alliance Affairs, to begin with. Likewise, keeping cheating accusations politically neutral until proven is important.

     

    Second, e$ should immediately 'fessed up that they had no idea what was going on, instead of being evasive. I'm assuming that's the case, because this has no strategic or tactical merit whatsoever. e$ and t$ know not to beige.

     

    Third, it is very possible that this is just an accident, i.e, a massive lag spike and multiple clicks on multiple open windows resulting in the war timeline we've seen here.

     

    But to know definitively what happens requires Alex's input. He will know if, say, the e$ member involved reported the incident before this hit the forums, and if not, will have to judge whether the exploiting was intentional or accidental.

    Why does someone always have to cheat?

    in Game Reports

    Posted · Edited by Inst

    3 minutes ago, Itachi said:

    He did, he immediately contacted @Alex literally right after. But nobody would know that because everyone immediately went to the character assassination and demanding he be banned or given strikes.

    You were the first e$ responder and you began with evasiveness, instead of indicating that e$ is exploring the issue, whether it has been reported by the member, and so on.

     

    We're back to a he-said she-said situation, which requires Alex to clear it up.

     

    Can a moderator please lock this thread until Alex gets here? Moreover, this thread should be moved to Game Reports.

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    Why does someone always have to cheat?

    in Game Reports

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, RightHonorable said:

    I condemn, in the strongest possible terms any death threats made against your member, that should go without saying, if one of our members has done such a thing contact me as that sort of business has no place in TCW. However nothing in this thread rises to anywhere that level, and to say that it does is exceedingly disingenuous 

    We've had reported and upvoted propaganda about castrating Roquentin, so...

    Why does someone always have to cheat?

    in Game Reports

    Posted

    If this thing is a bug, given what happened to Nova Riata as well as AK players, your member should have gone out and reported it immediately. Instead, no one reported the incident until BKNPO got a hold of it and used it to score cheap propaganda points.


    Even Empyrea reported the incident wherein they managed to launch more than the allowed number of attacks, iirc. Best damage control is to come clean about what happened and discipline your member, if they're allowed to remain in e$.

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