Lu Xun Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 This is recycled from the previous thread. Given Alex's recent statements, this is substantial evidence that the NP attacks were arranged as an attack on de facto allies in order to create beige that is strategic for their coalition. Further evidence is available on request. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted January 11, 2020 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2020 Presumably you're reporting this war:https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=582816 Which, from what I can tell, there is not sufficient evidence to consider slot filling. Both sides appeared to make a reasonable effort to win the war. Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) In this case, the person attacked has viewed the engagement as slot filling by an ally to give them beige that would be tactically advantageous to them, but not desired. The attackers made clear to the defender that the goal was to implement beiging of an ally for tactical advantage. === As mentioned in PM and elsewhere, this is a complicated can of worms. What is being requested right now is either: 1- A moratorium on NP and related's use of this tactic for 1 week until a decisive ruling on this novel (and in my view, illegal) tactic is performed. 2-A clear statement that states that players can beige their allies for tactical advantage provided that the conditions stated in your other posting are met. Clarification 2, of course, is of high political import and decides in the war the favor of NP-T$-TKR. It is mostly equivalent in having wars end in auto-beige. Clarification 1, on the other hand, I think would be fair to NP, as they've indicated that they've sought a war for the long-term. If the appealed ruling is in their favor, the end result is still lthe same, the only difference is that T$-TKR-KETOG etc has to wait a week longer to win the war, and they've already been in war for over 6 months. More importantly, it would be fair to BKNPO as the side that is damaged by this ruling would have a fair chance to make an appeal as to why this ruling is unreasonable. Edited January 11, 2020 by Inst . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 @Alex The request is whether or not BKNPO gets a chance for appeal before the meta-change / game-rules change can change the war meta. As mentioned in PM, players on their side are highly irate. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted January 12, 2020 Administrators Share Posted January 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Inst said: In this case, the person attacked has viewed the engagement as slot filling by an ally to give them beige that would be tactically advantageous to them, but not desired. The attackers made clear to the defender that the goal was to implement beiging of an ally for tactical advantage. === As mentioned in PM and elsewhere, this is a complicated can of worms. What is being requested right now is either: 1- A moratorium on NP and related's use of this tactic for 1 week until a decisive ruling on this novel (and in my view, illegal) tactic is performed. 2-A clear statement that states that players can beige their allies for tactical advantage provided that the conditions stated in your other posting are met. Clarification 2, of course, is of high political import and decides in the war the favor of NP-T$-TKR. It is mostly equivalent in having wars end in auto-beige. Clarification 1, on the other hand, I think would be fair to NP, as they've indicated that they've sought a war for the long-term. If the appealed ruling is in their favor, the end result is still lthe same, the only difference is that T$-TKR-KETOG etc has to wait a week longer to win the war, and they've already been in war for over 6 months. More importantly, it would be fair to BKNPO as the side that is damaged by this ruling would have a fair chance to make an appeal as to why this ruling is unreasonable. Your option 1 is not going to happen. This isn't a new or novel tactic, and has existed and been used many times over the years. Each times, nation strikes are issued where I am confident that War Slot Filling has occurred, and the strategy quickly fizzles out as players aim not to rack up warning points. Option 2 isn't exactly true either. Every single war is different and moderation discretion applies to all rulings. There's not a clear set of guidelines to determine what is and isn't war slot filling, because doing so would ensure that everyone just barely toes the line and de-facto makes war slot filling permissible. Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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