Deja Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The war system is not fair, and holds almost no way of winning if you start even slightly behind as the winningness compounds on itself. This should not be a thing: High Emperor Paladin's forces lost 7 aircraft, while your defenders lost 92 aircraft. I don't even care how big of an advantage one side has, that as a regular occurrence is a little ridiculous. I get it if it's a one-off unlikely happening, but that's a typical result when one side has an advantage. Which means if I get attacked and my attacker has a 10% edge on me numerically in forces, he has a MUCH larger than 10% advantage over me in winning the war, especially with the element of surprise (ground attack, immense triumph, wipe out airforce and tanks). This also means one stacked opponent vs two moderately stacked opponents ends up with zero forces in less than a day which is both unfair, uneven, and unrealistic. Somehow making that advantage compound less needs to be built into the way losses are calculated. Perhaps the core problem is that immense triumphs happen WAY too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's one of those things that may seem unfair, but it's pretty realistic... If i fought 2 guys my exact strength, i'd get my ass kicked. Give an example of how you'd fix the war system. Anyone can state something they don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) It's one of those things that may seem unfair, but it's pretty realistic... Game > Reality Other then that, was there anything the OP is suggesting to fix this? Otherwise this could be posted in the Discussion section. I think now is a great time to discuss the war system. Edited September 22, 2016 by Hooves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fronin Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 eh, changing to more of a siege system would be nicer have to score a naval battle to allow an air strike, have to win an air battle to besiege a city, have to have ground forces greater than the enemy for three days to win the siege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Game > Reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 It isnt Unfair. Its the same for everyone. Just learn the mechanics and work with them. The key is friends, you might need better ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 It isnt Unfair. Its the same for everyone. Just learn the mechanics and work with them. The key is friends, you might need better ones. If it were the same for everyone and were equitable, a 10% advantage in troops would come out to a roughly 10% advantage in the battles. But that isn't so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 If it were the same for everyone and were equitable, a 10% advantage in troops would come out to a roughly 10% advantage in the battles. But that isn't so. Eh no? if you have 10% advantage you get the good results. so get more cities/more and better friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Eh no? if you have 10% advantage you get the good results. so get more cities/more and better friends. Right, equally tall people have equal advantages in business. Just get taller. We're talking about the war system and its fairness. Edited September 23, 2016 by Deja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Right, equally tall people have equal advantages in business. Just get taller. We're talking about the war system and its fairness. Yes, and its the same for everyone so i dont get the crying. I updeclare all the time, its not an issue if you know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yes, and its the same for everyone so i dont get the crying. I updeclare all the time, its not an issue if you know what to do. If you don't get it, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe reread the OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's one of those things that may seem unfair, but it's pretty realistic... If i fought 2 guys my exact strength, i'd get my ass kicked. Yes, but in this game, if you fought two people that are 2/3 your strength, they'd get their asses kicked, even though together they should be able to team up to beat you. But because immense triumphs are so one-sided and don't require a large edge to effectively wipe out forces at a 10:1 ratio, as long as you stay on top of it, you can dominate those two easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yes, but in this game, if you fought two people that are 2/3 your strength, they'd get their asses kicked, even though together they should be able to team up to beat you. But because immense triumphs are so one-sided and don't require a large edge to effectively wipe out forces at a 10:1 ratio, as long as you stay on top of it, you can dominate those two easily. That's a good thing. It makes strategy less reliant on how many people you have and instead on how you use the people you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yes, but in this game, if you fought two people that are 2/3 your strength, they'd get their asses kicked, even though together they should be able to team up to beat you. But because immense triumphs are so one-sided and don't require a large edge to effectively wipe out forces at a 10:1 ratio, as long as you stay on top of it, you can dominate those two easily. Unless they know how to coordinate. If you don't get it, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe reread the OP? Maby you need to reread the definition of Unfair? Its not unfair when it can benefit anyone, its fair as hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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