[Kingsmen & the War]

Good luck with the rebuild, stock of on your rations dawg.

 

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[Multiple Exploits Used by Guardian and Grumpy Old Bastards]

I have known the people in Alpha, Grumpy, and Guardian for years now - we troll and have a good time but I don't think any of them actually would intentionally abuse this. For the most part they are pretty morally led people. Same goes for Alpha, so I understand how you can feel so wronged after having had this happen to you. I'm sure it wasn't something they knew about until this war started and you guys had started lobbing the nukes. 

[Guardian Announcement]

14 minutes ago, Caecus said:

 

You'll have to forgive us, Alpha has been dealing with !@#$ since our inception. For whatever reason, every war we go into, the opposing side feels the need to throw three times the number with a 5 city advantage at us, so we've all collectively decided to turtle and make y'all eat nukes. If people had the balls to fight us on relatively more even ground, we wouldn't have to use nukes. But alas, tS calls in TEst and Guardian needs at least a two on one advantage with game exploits.  

It’s hilarious how angry and shook you guys are that nations with more cities are hitting you. Half the war has been selling down for me, stocking nukes honestly set you up to get fricked with conventional warfare.

[Food]

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

2 minutes ago, Maverick0984 said:

You're still confused.  I've already done well over a years worth of damage in upkeep cost in 36h of war.  In a war we have no business doing any damage in because we're outnumbered 4:1.  That's a ridiculous amount of value.  

 

You aren't reading the other posts in the thread.  The comment was in response to being told we waste ALL of our money on nukes, which is nowhere close to true.  Please read all posts.  Thanks.

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

Just now, Maverick0984 said:

It's a little over a mil per nation per day. It's hardly a sizable chunk. 

Cost of doing business at this point. 

I'd also say that launching them all at targets means using them for more than intimidation.  What's your definition if it isn't the traditionally accepted one?

Scroll up to where it was said they are an insurance method. You guys were content with your thumbs up your ass and talking shit to everyone else because you thought your nukes would keep them away. You’ve been sitting on them for so long now that there is basically no way for you to ever get your moneys worth out of them, especially under this new war system. 

 

So so yes you are launching them, after over a year of doing nothing. High value. 

[We're All Out of Bubblegum]

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

2 minutes ago, Maverick0984 said:

That's great that you did math, but did you actually read my entire post?

Stating what nukes cost ignores my premise about what we do with the rest of the money.  It also doesn't prove anything I said wrong.  I JUST said it's annoying when people ignore facts and your next post ignored facts, sigh.

I never said there wasn't an investment. I simply said we invest in many things and nukes is only a % of that.

All you did was waste your time. ?

What is the payoff at 35m a day upkeep? Maybe if you guys used them as something more than an intimidation method you could have seen a more effective benefit. 

[Recognition of War of GOB and TCW on Spanish Armada]

17 minutes ago, Apeman said:

Nice sentence. Poor genes. Anywho we know why. The war is welcome. Sorry, was I not yelling that loud enough?

Please help me - I don't know if these broken sentences are meant to be satire or you actually lack ample knowledge of sentence structure. 

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

2 hours ago, Maverick0984 said:

How do you think Fark got to a high average number of cities?  All just magic?   It happened because we had a tax system in place and dished out grants to smaller nations to tier everyone together.  We were so generous to our nations that we even gave this same help to close allies.

All of our revenue doesn't just blindly go to nuke hoarding.  Think before you speak.

It's frustrating when people ignore facts that don't help their narrative.  It's a fallacy that prevents a person from acting rationally.

A little bit ago there was a thread about Fark reaching a thousand nukes. This costs:

1,750,000,000 dollars

750,000 aluminum

500,000 gasoline

250,000 uranium

This doesn’t even include the cost of building NRFs, or upkeep costs. 

With just the cash from that you could build a new nation up to 20 cities (without the policy), and still have over 250 mil left over. Here is a short list of some other things you could do:

- power the 20 city nation for 5200 real life days without ever buying uranium (assuming it is at 2k infra) 

- build 1,000 subways

- purchase max planes for that 20 city nation, almost 139 times.

- airstrike with max planes 1,111 times before ever needing more gas.

ADDED BONUS: Daily upkeep of this many nukes (during peacetime) is 35,000,000 per day. 

[kata told me to change the name]

1 minute ago, katashimon13 said:

well ur in t$ sooooo....

Check again

[kata told me to change the name]

In the other thread there was a remark about TGH fronts and only being a few wars. If you’re gonna include every one (not considered a whole front) then TGH is also hitting BK. 

[kata told me to change the name]

Did you just assume my affiliation? 

 

[We're All Out of Bubblegum]

2 hours ago, Zoot said:

Yes but you still control the war type of your offensive wars and, if your plan is to fire off all your nukes, then I'd assume you're planning on using all pf your offensive slots meaning most of your nukes will do full damage. Also, if your enemies are worth a damn then your defensive slots will be filled by people with low infra, and thus less valuable targets for nukes, anyways.

I guess what I'm saying is that while I kinda understand your point, most of your damage potential should be intact.

This has been mentioned to him like five times man. 

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

Reducing warfare damage in the game is beneficial, imo, because it means that the stakes for going to war are less and it's quicker & easier to rebuild.

While I considered giving the defender in a war 100% damage while the aggressor could only do 50%, I did not think that would really be fair, and also it would really discourage aggression, and war in the game is a good thing from a fun & activity perspective.

And a uh.... financial perspective 

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

Just now, kosmokenny said:

Sure, but go frick yourself for doing it.

That insult doesn’t help the roast you just received from Alex man. 

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

3 hours ago, Placentica said:

We didn't attack them, we were attacked.

When you are dogpiled by double to triple (and more in reserve) your number of cities, there isn't much of a choice bro.  I've said over and over again, we go conventional and nukes are an insurance policy if we are outgunned so heavily there was never a chance for a conventional victory.

Or is your strategy send 500 planes to try to knock out 2400 and *hope* you can win?  That sounds pretty solid man.  Please tell me how what your winning strategy is when you have 3 defensive wars from people with far more cities than you?  Sheesh, some people thought TKR was going to hit you.  If that ever happens I'm going to keep your quote.

I understand what you are saying, and it really wasn’t directed at the “insurance” type gameplay you just explained. It’s more referencing the flexing done by apeman and kosmo in recent times, threatening moves with nukes - not conventional warfare. The war system does not favor sitting around and building so many nukes. It allows people with more cities to hit you at your inflated score, you can’t really downdeclare, and you don’t even do full damage with the new war types. There is almost no benefit to hoarding stocks of nukes other than to use it as a scare tactic. 

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

1 hour ago, kosmokenny said:

We do just fine when 25 Farkers arent fighting against 150 EMCers.  The advantage is, 3 people who only know how to play on easy mode fill our defensive slots and take out our mil, and our only recourse is now worthless.

 

Youre an idiot and have no grasp on numbers.  Go frick yourself.

[Spartan Kick]

1 hour ago, kosmokenny said:

I can multi task fortitude and !@#$ing at the sheep fricker all day long

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to tell me. Please, try again. 

[Spartan Kick]

1 hour ago, rapmanej said:

We already have that now. 

It appears I have overestimated the mental fortitude of NB

[Suggestion regarding nuke damage]

Maybe use a strategy that doesn't require getting the shit kicked out of you and mutually assured destruction afterward? I honestly have no fricking clue how war is fun with the methods that your sphere uses. 

[Spartan Kick]

Give it like 2 or 3 days before we start seeing demands for nukes to be stronger

[We're All Out of Bubblegum]

1 hour ago, Felkey said:

Pretty much this.

[We're All Out of Bubblegum]

I mean apeman is also just a notorious shit talker. That should be cb enough. 

[DoE]

13 hours ago, Apeman said:

Good luck they say..... how can you say that with the what 300 plus nations on 60?

*looks at KT*