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Ignis fortitudinem, et honorem! Even your goddam signature thing on the forums is because of me, it was me who made that phoenix's saying

I think you should watch your mouth talking about wars which happned ages ago, Jumin was also part of the government who declared war on RW, Let's not forget I made the alliance, half the people there are there because of me, I didn't steal rescources, neither did I flee, Jumin and allilee both knew I was leaving to make an alliance, you are talking about things you know nothing about, and it's clear. Oh and btw, if you want to lead some war to get "your" rescources back we will be waiting man,anytime, anywhere you will get rolled into dust 😂😂 !@#$ I'm in a position to judge, as is everyone here you muppet

Stefan Thorne If this had been back in the day I was leading Phoenix you would be gone, I would have kicked you - count yourself lucky Yes this is ironic since I started loads of shit at the start of the war, but it's different now - don't cause your AA problems, don't speak like a gov member when you are a normal 'comrade' You have been given 60 days protection, whether you agree with the treaty dissolutions or not, (I personally think it's a interesting term, as in its new, props to rozzy there, but not a good one) Whatever your views about it you need to back Jumin, otherwise you are making Phoenix look disorderly and...to be blunt, shite. And that's not how I want to see my old AA appearing, you need to take those 60 days of protection and seriously sort things out. Now stop arguing and spend that time working on your nation, TL;DR, Thorne. Shut up, you are making yourself look like an idiot. A loyal idiot which I respect, but an idiot.

Good luck to all my old friends in sparta! o7 Sparta Condolences BK kek

Arguing get's me nowhere, get's you nowhere, and gets phoenix nowhere, having re looked at the situation this is a fair attack, and phoenix are losing due to being unprepared, this does not mean i condone or like the situation, but it means that theres no point making another 4 pages going back and forth at it

A strong argument? a coherent method of writing? damn you definatley vote lib dem (too far?) I'll be honest roz i'm just salty phoenix are losing, i know there's no serious hatred i'm salty you guys are winning, i'll admit that much Honestly a cba to argue and if i'm being out of line i'm sorry, but i still dont like it but would you?

Me arguing with you is not going to win or lose a war, so i'm just going to say bye. Whether it was fair right cowardly wrong whatever, me arguing wont do anything to help my allies, you have made a mistake tho i think, it may bite you in the arse like it bit phoenix in the arse, only time will tell mate, see ya

let's be fair, it was me who lied to you, me who ordered the attack, you are taking it out on phoenix, that's what i don't like, it's loyalty to the alliance i made all that time ago thats why i am arguing this with you, before you attacked phoenix, i quite liked you and rozalia, and i'm probably gonna like you when it's over, but for now i think you are not doing the right thing, i think you have come in at a time where you know you can win, because you were afraid of doing it any other time, this opinion ain't gonna change for love or money. Actually, 10 BN and all the !@#$es in orbis might change that opinion, but untill then it's staying the same

I'm trolling because i think RW are dishonourable cowards? then yes i'm trolling, now on your bike, i'm waiting for the next flawed RW argument

I didn't ask for your opinion, nor do i want it, this has nothing to do with T$, or you. Besides, ive laid out solid points and backed them up, RW cant seem to acceot they did a cowardly thing, and then strut around like they are the big dog's do me a favour, it's funny and sad to see at the same time

I like it dont worry Yeah a micro, an unorganised micro entering into their first war, most of the players first wars too, doing barely any damage attacking you, Vs a organised attack on an alliance rife with internal problems, and had less score and members, barely less score and members but less all the same. And you are saying that this is what we did but better? stop lying to yourself

Oh here's another thing, phoenix was a micro, had about 18000 score So it wasnt like we even di much damage, but like i said, if you went for the person who lied to you you would have gone for me

In that case why are you whining about what phoenix did last war, hypocrite mate

Betrayal? Were we treatied? no Did we have any ind of NAP signed? again NO did you take one persons word for it? yes Was that silly move? yes if we were planning a sneak attack, which we were i think telling you miiiiiight kind of mess that up

I'm not making excuses for phoneix's mediocre defense, you had them i'll give you that, it's plain to see, I didnt say you were internally strong, i said phoenix was weaker.

- To Yourselves, you probably think how hard and scary you are rn, please remember it was rozalia who approached us about having a white peace, - I think you guys trying excuse yourselves is laughable at best - you don't have a valid reason shut up you muppet XD And was defence of an ally, how destroyed you were idrc tbh, we helped defend rose, every bit of millitary we took every bit of score could have been used to hurt rose or her allies, we may not have done much but we helped. we were only a micro after all

If you read my post correctly i said you were at least bringing yourself down to my level, you cant do the same as me and then preach about how you are a victim, you are cowards attacking an internally weak alliance, like i said i like you guys and i wont be like you and hold this against you forever, shit happens, but i am telling you like it is. Congratulations RW, you are obviously so big and scary

Orbis is a safe space! we are all pretty

In that case why are you guys annoyed at alpha, is this game not about war Just saying, if this game is about war why have any treaties, why not make it a cluster !@#$. Fact of the matter, RW have hit an alliance weak internally due to leadership changes, if this was an unrelated hit, just about the grudge why did they wait untill everyone was at war, they knew they wouldn't be able to handle a stable phoenix and rose, so they waited until phoenix was unstable and rose was fighting other wars, Let's not suger coat here, Roz, i like you man, you're a cool guy, but this is cowardly, and if you want to hide behind the shield of "oh You did it first" then you've just lowered yourself to my level congrats *Slow Claps* Roz, I bet you vote lib dem

If i remember rightly i apologised for lying, but if i had told you we were preparing to attack you well.... then it's not a sneak attack is it, personally i've let it go it's the past. you should do the same But attacking an alliance who were remaining neutral is wrong, especially over something the leader did off his own back, when he is not even there anymore

If roz wei was attacking the person who lied to them they would attack me, i was the one who gave the order to attack, and the one who lied to rozalia. But no you attack phoenix as you thought they were an easy target See the lie collapse yet? i know this is not a popular opinion, as they or on the rose side of things but that's just my opinion.

Communism is ew, there are two wings my freinds, right wing and wrong wing

Don't know - it just is Call it a trial period if you like, it's just a way to see about them becoming M level treaties in the future mate

Nice to see guys o/ The Covenant

Kind of weird to see both alliances I created treaty O7 Valkyire O/ Phoneix