Lu Xun
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19 minutes ago, James II said:
He also shared that information with a lot of people, including people who had the same access he did.
That's rather ridiculous, isn't it? If you're saying he shared a strategic weapon with your side, that would be pure folly because he wouldn't have guarantees that the one-use weapon would be used at appropriate and useful sides. And it's still something that happened on your side.
On the BK side, the timing of the attack was especially unfortunate since many BK government members were offline at that moment. It could have been far worse and the alliance could have been fully disbanded, but the slow rate of attack resulted in its discovery and abortion. Leo, moreover, had personal business to attend to at the time which George would have known. In other words, there's a difference between shooting yourself in the leg to claim you were assaulted and shooting yourself in the head.
Put it another way, which is more plausible? That George had begun the attack 21 minutes after talking about it openly, or that BK had somehow perfectly timed it to coincide with low government activity and George's departure?
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Personally, from your response, I think you know just as well as I do Geroge did it. Problem is, it's not politically convenient for your side to admit such. It's a constant affair of deflection and introducing "whataboutisms" to create uncertainty, which simply reflects the fact.
On my side, the nature of the attack (Leo's machine was compromised and used to kick members) means that it does not require Alex's intervention, since, as you've said, this is more a matter for law enforcement agencies (who won't intervene as I've shown). Still, a fundamental commitment to truth (i.e, you can leave the BS to other KERCHTOG$+TCW+Fark members) is one of the things that give us dignity. -
2 minutes ago, James II said:
I've seen logs and screen shots but I see no proof of hacking. Only that Gorge knew he had the ability to do so to remove BK members via a third party log in to Leo's account that he was given access to by Leo.
And about 21 minutes after he says this, BK starts getting kicked, to the consternation of your coalition, including one where Cooper indicates that if it's George, he should be expelled from the coalition.
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7 minutes ago, James II said:
You claim you have proof and you claim it's a crime. You obviously don't. Quit slandering people.
On Discord, I've already leaked to your members the relevant screenshots (but screenshots can be faked!). So can logs! Blah blah blah.
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Do not be an ignoramus. Law enforcement and the FBI typically are quite lazy when it comes to cybercrimes, especially when no RL monetary value is involved.
Hacking is extremely hard to track and prove, especially if proxies are involved or the perpetrators are in other countries (which is quite easy with online activities).
https://www.cio.com/article/2402264/why-law-enforcement-can-t-stop-hackers.html
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Check piss face's nation atm.
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I think that given the evidence we have, we can believe with certainty that this "King William III" hacked Leo, and it's George.
However, given the jurisprudence practice of PnW, Alex can't prove it and "King William III", according to the rules and T&C, didn't do anything wrong as the criminal infringement occurred on Leo's computer, not the game servers.
Then again, Pooball didn't do anything wrong according to the rules and T&C, and merely exploited a bug to generate infinite money. -
10 hours ago, Micchan said:
When you realize that NPO defending bots is not a fight to automate more some aspect of the game but is a fight for their own life
http://100photos.time.com/photos/jeff-widener-tank-man
So are we finally the heroes? And, FYI, the man was never crushed by the tank.
Pico Iyer's description of the original picture is also very succinct. Does that make Alex now a hero for refusing to ban bank bots? Or are NPO and Alex both villains in your eyes?
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On 1/15/2020 at 6:23 PM, Thalmor said:
What everyone fails to realize is that although there is a villain, that villain is not Roquentin. It's also not Leo, it's not Sphinx, it's not Abbas, it's not Keegoz, it's not Adrienne, it's not Thrax, it's not Kev, and it's not Partisan.
The real villain all along as been me, and you all have been duped.
In reality, most people behave as rational actors and sociological principles / org theory / physics / etc are to blame.
In other words, the REAL villain, is Alex.On the other hand, this game both breeds sociopathic behavior and selects for sociopaths, so... when will I have a Rush Sykes moaning in public about all the lying and deceit he had to do once he became gov?
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Tiberius, on the other hand, can also contact any of his allied alliance banks and receive a loan (paid for by his own alliance bank). That's sort of the definition of a coalition, isn't it?
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1 hour ago, AntMan said:
The contents should be deleted tbh.
If you forget your alliance has contents, then it must be deleted
I include the nitro gift message as well to prove its legitimacy. You can check my discord to see whether I have nitro or not.
I can understand Neko not wanting to make the report himself due to players like GOONS criticizing everything he does, good or bad.
Neko already made the report himself. You just publicized the exploit.
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Just now, Neko said:
It was tested using my Nation so look into it by looking at my account should work I believe
Note that Neko is fighting on Coal B side.
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3 minutes ago, Spartacus (Interstellar) said:
@Lord VaderOur embassy has been deleted and I was banned from TI discord for no reason (I haven't even posted anything), so I can't confirm whether you are lying or telling the truth this time. We have not received any logistical or military support from our protector. Anyway, the conversation with you is over.
Tyrion, in my experience, has always been very level-headed. I'm surprised they banned you en masse in a fit of pique. Unless someone is being disruptive there is no reason to ban someone from a public server.
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11 minutes ago, Kevanovia said:
Self-awareness is important. Good work!
Same goes for you.
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You are not in the report, Rosey Song. For all I know, you didn't collaborate with Akuryo; and frankly speaking, this is mainly because I can't prove it (and Akuryo slot filling has been judged "legal", although I have my doubts). You are merely the target of Akuryo's little "plane recovery service".
Anyways, go troll as much as you want. I'll let you have fun. Our problems are on Discord, namely when I got drunk.
"It's pretty easy to get abused by Rosey without being a weirdo about it" - Betilius
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Have some cat pictures Micchan. Here's to hoping that NPO and TKR can one day get along and I don't have to blockade hold you for 53 turns again.
My cat above. I have two kitties.
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11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Again I'm a member. If you are expecting a useful answer out of me, you'll be waiting a long time.
Ooh, let's start abusing single data points from low-level NPO members for propaganda!
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36 minutes ago, Edward I said:
Being allowed to evolve and actually evolving are two different things. Peace doesn't necessarily lead to an "evolution" in politics and, more often than not, it hasn't.
There's nothing inherently good or bad about fighting multiple wars with or against similar coalitions. Ironically, change for its own sake here is the opposite of IC politics. If there isn't an animating IC reason - strategic, ideological, or social - to alter your alliance's diplomatic stance, then all that any change has done is to supplant IC politics with OOC notions. (Or, worse, with IC politics cynically disguised as OOC notions.)
I find the game more interesting when it's driven by actual IC politics, not the OOC knockoff that so regularly passes for it and which you endorse here.
Structural advantages are inherently part of the politics of the world. Game mechanics and their long-term ramifications are intimately related to diplomacy. If your politics aren't motivated by material, mechanical realities (including structural disparities), ideology, or a desire for social status and prestige, then they're not IC and they're not really politics. Structural advantages are the politics of the world to a large extent.
That's been more untrue than not because there haven't been the type of comprehensive victories/defeats or mutually amenable settlements to past conflicts to engender that sort of change. The reason why IQ and Syndisphere/EMC were in a state of alternating cold and hot war for years is that neither side could comprehensively defeat the other and both sides believed that continuing the long-term rivalry was their best strategic option. If either had been able to crush the other, it's possible something different would have emerged, although that probably could only have happened if the victory had led to infighting among the victors.
The ostensible settlement that ended the IQ-EMC rivalry wasn't a settlement so much as a half-baked papering over of the differences and disagreements between those two groups, and one which didn't have the universal trust or buy-in that its boosters claimed it did. That the zeitgeist of early 2019 looked almost exactly like the zeitgeist of EMC in 2017-18 - broad comity between most alliance leaderships, especially those of former EMC, and an explicit hope that NPO and BK would fight a pitched war against one another - should tell you pretty much all you need to know.
A lot, but not all of it. A substantial portion of EMC's years of profit have gone into building larger warchests, probably in part because upper tier cities are more expensive. Furthermore, the parts that have gone into building more cities have still created a military advantage, regardless of the lower return rates. A nation with a significant advantage in cities is harder to fight no matter how expensive those cities were. Finally, it's not like NPO or other, relatively newer, relatively lower-tiered alliances had years of identical revenues to EMC that they spent more efficiently. Instead, they had years of lower revenues compared to EMC and had shorter periods in which to generate positive ROI for their infrastructure thanks to fighting more wars than EMC's upper tier.
Very little of this would be a problem if PW's upper tier powerhouses made a habit of actually fighting one another. If warfare had, over the long run, imposed a cost on upper tier nations proportionally equivalent to the cost it imposed on mid tier nations, then your comment on game mechanics would be a lot more relevant to the discussion. It's obviously not irrelevant - former IQ alliances have (slowly and incompletely) closed the gap with former EMC alliances - but it hasn't outweighed the impact of alliance politics over the years.
Sitting out one war would not have balanced out the de facto, years long policy numerous upper tier nations had of doing the same.
Overall, the general problem in this game is that while the game fundamentally favors lower tier nations in terms of theoretical economic and military ability, in practice, security issues emerge.
Let us say, for instance, the upper tier actually fights the upper tier. Pretty soon, the defeated elements drop to the mid-tier and are then blockade held (see CoS last war). Then the victorious side blockade holds the defeated upper tier while the victorious upper tier boosts up and goes back to stockpiling resources.
In practice, this just means that the upper tier takes very little economic damage from actual war and the only way to actually disadvantage an upper tier is to blockade hold them for a prolonged period of time. And then the food STILL continues to get rolled out and sold. So I guess that's why they call it spam.
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I'll clarify that Insta-GA is what NPO etc is accusing KERCHTOG$ of doing, and I have never seen the evidence. I have with success hit KERCHTOG$ with planes before they could ground, and to the best of my knowledge "man-in-the-loop" Insta-GA is legal. So I'm not sure if KERCHTOG$ elements have resorted to automatic warfighting or, if it does happen, who would be using it and whether it's authorized by their alliances.
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24 minutes ago, Sam Cooper said:
Immortals is not even active on forums lol, there are only 2 people from TI besides me on this thread and they haven't insulted IS.
Daily reminder that the PnW forums is the only place in existence. We are all bots that endlessly generate context according to a central algorithm.
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1 hour ago, Micchan said:
What's a insta-GA?
It's when I blockade hold you for 53 turns.
(We're aware that at least parts of KERCHTOG$ seem to have scripts that enable at least auto-notificatino on declare and push them immediately to a screen with pre-filled computer-determined optimal attack. The Insta-GA is an extension by just taking the human entirely out of the loop.)
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On 1/12/2020 at 5:44 PM, Rosey Song said:
Nothing about these wars has been slot filling, inst simply doesn't like me. His attack towards me where he went 60 hours without launching an attack was legitimate slot filling, but feel free to look at the logs of the war, and both sides have actively been trying to win. Go cry in mommys arms inst, the forum is for grown ups.
Rosey was blockade held by me in an example of conventional tactics, as I had previously said in the OP. If you weren't slot-filled by Akuryo and friends, we would have shot you down and kept you suppressed simply because you are considered a decent fighter. But I'm not discussing here unless absolutely necessary.
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2 minutes ago, Akuryo said:
Since when does competency make an argument for slotfilling? Pretty sure it doesn't or every micro would be guilty right now.
I think Alex is just as annoyed by this affair (in different ways) as I am as well as by the related drama. Let's spare him this circus sideshow.
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https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=585129
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=585129
The report came in in irateness. I am well aware what current policy is, and I assume no such action will be taken.
Here is the sequence of events. I arranged for Mei-Ling Zhou to blockade Rosey Song, then I accepted Rosey Song's peace to free up my offensive slot.
The next I heard about it, apparently Akuryo and a friend had come in, filled the last two slots, and soon after, Rosey Song redeemed a credit to break out of the cash lock he was imposed in and wrecked the person I had arranged to engage. If Rosey had not been filled, the credit redemption could have been negated by bringing in other attackers.
But oh, you can't prove it's slot filling.
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“Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.”
― Reinhold NiebuhrIn truth, I'm just fulfilling my obligation to Mei-Ling Zhou here, who got trapped and destroyed by an opponent he or she couldn't beat here. I have to complain. But as I've said in our previous correspondence, I'm not doing this anymore.
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As I've said above, this is a problem for lobbyists. I have other activities I attend to.
Account hacking (Leo)
in Moderation Support
Posted · Edited by Inst
Ask Curu. I'm an outside contractor working pro bono. But then... do you trust Curufinwe? Like I said, if the proof is in our hands, you can always claim we falsified it or just plain lied about it.