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  1. 5 minutes ago, kosmokenny said:

    You mean people like my friend Queen M who you racist blights upon society chased out of this game by constantly harassing her with racist shit all over discord including in my alliances server because she had the gall to be a black woman, to the point where Bluebear even told me he was glad I was going after you idiots because hes a white nationalist and you were making him look bad? 

    Rapmanej:

     

    "This is the most toxic game I've ever seen"

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  2. 17 minutes ago, Adrienne said:

    Roq and IC/Az had issues when they were Umbrella/MK(?) iirc. At least I think that's what he's getting at. I don't know the full story/details.

    IIRC Rapmanej dragged out a now 10 year old audio recording regarding another game while Roquentin was having an adverse reaction to drugs prescribed by his doctor and Rapmanej edited it out of context, so yeah.


    Otherwise, won't comment on this anymore.

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  3. 1 hour ago, kosmokenny said:

    Heres the thing, for you absolute morons that cant figure it out. If you want to fight all the time, there are alliances like Arrgh that arent built upon being a racist trashheap that still fight all the time. Theyve got some people like bluebear in there to keep you happy if racism is still your thing, but it isnt the raison d'etre of the whole alliance. The only reason to join KKKT is because you want to circle jerk other racist trash about how fun it is to be racist trash.

    I've mentioned elsewhere that if Winchell didn't live where he did, he'd have been ostracized because the game is incredibly alt-right (at this moment). Welcome to Orbis.

  4. Contribution to report:

     

    "Adolf Nazikerz"; well, the first name is innocuous in itself (Adolf used to be a common German name), but the last name is suspicious.

     

    Kerz in German is apparently "candle". "Kurz" is "short". Not sure how the conjugation of !@#$ and kerz might work in German, however.

     

    Nazikurz, on the other hand, is a Twitter hashtag attacking Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz. Still, he chose e, not u, so that's not a good excuse.

  5. On 3/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, Charles Bolivar said:

    Adrienne is from TKR...she knows better than most the nature of personal grudges. The TKR-NPO rivalry was born from an entirely personal grudge in this instance which didn't even have its roots in this game but stems from another world where a particular person who shall not be named developed a deep seated grievance against a few of TKR's founders which carried over into this realm.  This same person carried a similar set of grudges against early syndicate members too now that I think on it.

    You are right to make a distinction between ingame and IRL grudges. My point however is, due to both being inherently personal, the end result is much the same. It's no surprise after all, people make things personal because well...we are all persons at the end of the day.

    And whilst I applaud these amongst us who aspire to this world being free of "personal drama" affecting the general meta of the game, I am doubtful of it amounting to much considering the sheer level of toxicity and nasty drama which has almost been a near present factor.

    Isn't human nature just grand?

     

    All happened years ago, when Roquentin (he's not banned anymore, but has vanished) ended up being used as a scapegoat by an organization (in another game) some TKR founders were apart of, as well as subject to out-of-game harassment (I forget whether the respective TKR members ever apologized for that, although officially they were against that particular set of actions).

     

    In another game, apparently, the particular person supposedly spent his time using his political influence to sideline some of the TKR founders. In this game, it was perceived that the party involved was getting back at him by sidelining and neutralizing him.

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  6. WTF literally can't ask ASM for help. One mistake I made earlier was assuming that WTF was actually militarized, when in actuality WTF had around 40-50% tanks at the outset. ASM, likewise, is not sufficiently militarized to intervene immediately, and moreover, ASM is approximately one-fourth of WTF's nominal strength, which is approximately par with KT's nominal strength.

  7. 4 hours ago, namukara said:

    Given I was on both sides during this war, I'm officially declaring victory. Some people believe Nova won, some believe Pantheon did, but we can all agree that I was on the winning side.

    Alternately, you can say you were on both losing sides, since Pantheon was losing up to and including the point where you defected, and then the Pooball scandal broke out and Original BK cleaned up the mess.

     

    There was some effective raiding and counter-work being done from Pantheon, but I noted to our side that we were overextended (i.e, no reserves) during the last Pantheon counter-chain.

     

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    That said, I'll give props to Pooball (not for the cheating, but for the military tactics). Hitting a meatshield during preliminary wars leading up to a global is usually a terrible idea, and absorbing members from the alliance you're wrecking is usually also a terrible idea (they're fair weather friends), but when you put it together, it actually achieved strategic effect.

  8. On 2/19/2021 at 9:54 AM, Odin said:

    Let's be honest, they just didn't know where the "Leave Alliance" button was all this time. 

    When I had rushed the tombstoning, many members refused to find new homes, even when I had indicated that they had no protection and were just raidbait (especially after I set 0/0 taxes). The remaining 10 members (other than Fist) were kicked out when some politics got me to rush the tombstone.

     

    On 2/19/2021 at 9:08 AM, Thalmor said:

    Pantheon probably should've been destroyed but it should've happened as a result of the community failing to fight for it's existence through competent membership and administration. 

    This seems like an artificial death and I think that cringe. 

    One disagreement I have with others is that Pantheon did a fairly good job with the TJest operation at the end of last year. It would have lasted, in a way, unless someone decided to keep it rolled for 2 months or longer.

     

    Part of my issue with Pantheon was toxic politics; I think when it truly "jumped the shark" was when Fist (whose nation is the sole remaining member) couped Sphinx and Yui. This resulted in a transition into "one man politics", since Fist overcentralized power, as well as a tradition of coups. Ethos was removed for inactivity (having vanished days before Nova Riata hit), and rawr was removed for inactivity (Six had spread claims that rawr wanted to disband the alliance). At the very end, it had become a fiefdom with many people resenting the power holder (not the alliance leader) and many of the old guard hoping it would just finally die.

     

    One of the main reasons for tombstoning Pantheon (and one of the reasons I recoiled at Dusty and Nokia) was because Pantheon's brand had become wholly toxic. For non-Pantheon members, Pantheon was either a joke or a pityhorse, while for Pantheon itself, it became something people idolized, despite its weakness, and a source of emotional attachment demagogues could exploit for mediocre leadership. As an example of the former, one of the (chased out) former government, who was supposed to have had a power-sharing agreement with a former Titan, responded with "lol" at the tombstoning of the alliance and simply wanted me to disband it. As an example of the latter, that former Titan, Dusty, and Nokia all had lines of "make Pantheon great again" and exploited sentimental attachments to the alliance, despite showing relatively incompetent leadership and no clear planning.

     

    @Lord Vader

    Yeah, was originally going to post something on the spot, but didn't have an accessible forums account at the time.

  9. So you have your revenge. What of it? It still doesn't disguise the fact that NR blowing up the way it did crippled TKR-bloc during Surf's Up. And as I mentioned on your Discord, Pantheon was less something that did you in but rather something that sat around and outlasted you. The actual kill-switch was Akuryo, and certain others not in Pantheon. Hence it's actually pretty bad to declare victory in this way; it's like declaring victory when the car company that produced the vehicle for the drive-by that did you in went under.

  10. There was an agreement to put up a NR flag for like 24-48 hours. That got changed to some kind of NR meme, and then the NR meme was taken down after pressure / breakdown of relationship with the secondary coup.

     

    In either case, I'm quite happy that this kind of bashing occurred; I was not fond of NR's operation nor the fact that it apparently operated an infinite cash glitch for months without being detected. I got to keep my deal (to some extent) as well as to watch it backfire on NR. NR is NR; we might disagree on GPWC's generation, but to the best of my knowledge they were the biggest exploiters to date.

     

    @Charles Bolivar

     

    Double coup, which was decidedly unadvised, unless if you were planning to kill the thing, then a negotiated settlement to buy the thing out. While I was pretty much on board with killing the alliance off once it was obvious the second coup was lethal (neither Epimetheus nor myself had the clout with the government members to keep it functioning, and somehow Epi's promises of protectorates to provide stability fell through), I was not fond of how it was killed off. The members should have been let in on what had happened, as well as be given options (as opposed to bullshit, some of which I had provided) as to what to do with Pantheon being tombstoned.

     

    Many people who were in Pantheon at the time of the coup left for Brotherhood Family, to something like a 34-member alliance (it's now 57). To some extent, I wonder if it was a negotiated killing; i.e, people were tired of the Pantheon brand name, and Dusty was given charge from Kosove / Six knowing full well what would have happened. BroFam was given top billing once I had authorization to tell people that the "show's over".

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