Alastor Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) On 9/1/2023 at 2:10 PM, hidude45454 said: This, to me, reads of a very hard shift toward pure realpolitik: the tossing aside of ideological politics for practical policy. Other than lip service to this terminology and some very specific fetishization of realpolitik, what exactly do you see getting tossed aside? Furthermore, what does "pure realpolitik" actually mean in PnW? That no one cares about anything in this game other than the statistics, or just 'winning' any war they join regardless of circumstance or long-term consequence? I'm just curious. Edited September 12, 2023 by Roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidude45454 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Roberts said: Other than lip service to this terminology and some very specific fetishization of realpolitik, what exactly do you see getting tossed aside? Furthermore, what does "pure realpolitik" actually mean in PnW? That no one cares about anything in this game other than the statistics, or just 'winning' any war they join regardless of circumstance or long-term consequence? I'm just curious. Too eepy atm to respond with anything longer but like I said in the post, ideological politics lol, there's less principle for people to rally around when everyone pretty much follows the same exact game of hit the ppl who 1. Avoided losing war the longest 2. Are the biggest 3. Did something kinda mean 4. Rolled you the last time; there's no distinction between sides beside "I'm in this alliance and u r not lul" and just forget about finding alliances that are consistent in their beliefs and not hypocrites kek. When treaties are only signed for size/tiering and alignment for/against friends/enemies, they lose any community-based meaning beyond that. Obviously realpolitik is not just a short-term goal of winning whatever current war kek, although plenty of alliances have taken advantage of that. But it is more of a numbers thing that ultimately just leads to every alliance trying to one up every other alliance via focus on tiering alone, and slowing the tiering of others, and under that context, alliances find justification to maintain that goal by whatever means necessary. (Sorry if this is rambling, when I say I'm eepy I'm serious :serious:) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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