Salt Meat
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It's a wiki. Change it.
Problem solved.
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33 minutes ago, Leopold von Habsburg said:
This is a ridiculous comparison. Getting info from the API is not the same as having a bot/script perform in game functions such as withdrawals to nations. The API is not logging onto your account. The API is also endorsed by the game and touted as an accessible feature. BK's bank scheme is not. If recruiting bots fall under the same category as this thing with BK's bank then maybe they should go too.
Your comparison of bigger governments have the advantage is moot. That's actual players doing things. Not a bot running your leaders nation to do all your banking transactions handless on his part. If people are doing the work, real people and playing the game how could you even be daft enough to make that comparison? You're really reaching to try to justify why something like this should remain in the game when it's pretty blarringly obvious it shouldn't.
I would argue that it is indeed "endorsed" by the game considering it's been previously OK'd and several alliances have similar systems now for years.
It's still actual players doing things. It's not some sort of dystopian fully automated robot running the alliance like you imply, it's a 1:1 ratio of inputs to game actions. BK member presses button, and performs action, same as a government member would do. This just makes the economic side of the game more accessible and adds more interaction for rank and file players.
Any alliance can create a similar system to make the game more accessible to it's players, much like any alliance is free to learn to use the API for whatever they desire.
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37 minutes ago, Buorhann said:
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh..........
This isn't a sport, and it's been known that people used bots to sabotage others before. Until things are more secured, I'd say just take it all down. Equal out the playing field in that case.
Take down what exactly, though? Most every alliance of consequence uses the API in some way for tracking their own stuff, even if some of the major alliances use it to it's maximum potential. Plus the NPOwned stats that many seem to enjoy looking at.
I don't think putting the game into the dark ages helps anything.
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16 minutes ago, namukara said:
I agree that a tool which allows funds to be withdrawn from the bank without the banker needing to be active increases unfairness within the game and should be banned. Games should not be 'code to win,' if your banker can't log on for a while then you don't get the cash out of the bank. Even if it is 'your own money,' that's part of the risk of making a safety deposit.
I deposited some money and resources with the TI bank, if I want to get them back and tyrion isn't online, kind of going to struggle with that one. It must be noted as well that this makes it extremely easy for BK members to bank potential loot just before beige, as they are fully aware they can instantly get it back. The rest of us don't have that security.
Where do you draw the line though? An alliance that has a recruitment script has an advantage over one that does it by hand. An alliance with someone who knows how to use the API and get statistics about themselves and others has an advantage over someone who does it by hand. I mean, an alliance with a more active government has a much bigger advantage moving funds than one with a less active government. Do you limit daily play time to make things more fair for inactives?
As was said earlier, the solution isn't to try and drag everyone down to your level, but rather to step up your own game.
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On 1/14/2020 at 12:36 AM, Bjorn Ironside said:
Whats the difference between BKnet and a baseball bot?, well apart from a baseball bot being safer? both give an unfair advantage vs those who do not use bots.
What would a baseball bot of this style accomplish, exactly?
With 1 for 1 inputs, you've replaced clicking a baseball button over and over in game, with clicking a baseball button over and over out of the game, and accomplished... absolutely nothing.
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1 hour ago, Madokami said:
Best of Luck rebuilding all the damage suffered
Despite any experiences to the contrary by certain Japanese animation themed alliances, not everyone sinks like a stone on the first day.
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4 minutes ago, James II said:
Why would I tell people I'm going to hit that I am going to hit them?
200 IQ playWe call it "Pulling an Immortals" around here.
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1 hour ago, namukara said:
Come back to us when we blitz them for it. Except that won't happen, because we're getting demolished and couldn't do it if we wanted to.
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22 minutes ago, Gatorcock said:
Because Interstellar is an upstanding war alliance that all of Orbis wants to work with.
They seemed good enough for you a few days ago when you were desperately throwing all the micros you could find into the meat grinder in an attempt to counter us.
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4 minutes ago, Broke said:
Which will definitely include yours
...yes, presumably we would be involved in any peace agreements that happen.
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Good to see. Congrats on peace, the first of many to come.
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3 minutes ago, namukara said:
We've got a 6-month NAP that's still running, what did goons think of that?
Not much after your leadership told us they were going to attack us.
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Great stuff, a well earned peace for you guys.
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8 hours ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:
Didn't you guys already declare neutrality? Talk about flip flopping.
Needed some better odds on the table before honoring their supremacy clause Bloc.
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Good luck, Atlan. You better win.
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Let the madness begin!
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Is there some sort of context to this, I don't understand what the logs are supposed to be saying.
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My dude your micro alliance was within our raiding guidelines, some may have gotten involved because of who you are, but ultimately you alliance was hit repeatedly because it was a solid raid target. If you found yourself a protectorate treaty, it would have been over.
But no, you decided to formalize it and post a DoW on the forum. That means our alliances are in a state of war. You can't just sit there after the first round of battles and unilaterally decide that it's over, peace needs to be negotiated.
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Alliance Categories
- Best Micro Alliance - Kingsglaive
- Worst Micro Alliance - Kingsglaive
- Most likely to succeed (Alliance)- Kingsglaive
- Most Controversial Micro - Kingsglaive
- Most Honorable Micro - Kingsglaive
- Most wanted disbandment - Kingsglaive
- Worst FA (treaties) - Kingsglaive
- Best FA (Treaties) - Kingsglaive
- Fastest growing - Kingsglaive
- Best Flag - Kingsglaive
- Worst Flag - Kingsglaive
- Best Theme - Kingsglaive
- Worst Theme - Kingsglaive
- Best Micro War - Kingsglaive
- Most missed Micro - Kingsglaive
- Best New Addition (Alliance) - Kingsglaive
Player Categories
- Best Micro Leader - Noctis
- Worst Micro Leader - Noctis
- Best Non Lead Government - Nikolai
- Worst Non Lead Government - Nikolai
- Most Controversial Player - Noctis
- Best Micro Couper - Noctis
- Best Micro Post -
- Worst Micro Post -
- Dumbest Micro Leader - Noctis
- most likely to succeed (Player) - Noctis
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5 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said:
>needing resources
Stay pleb.
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make, which isn't surprising considering who I'm responding to, but no, I have not needed to use the market in months, someone else takes care of that so that I am free to embargo whiny 1 baseball game players to my heart's content.
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5 hours ago, lightside said:
Please pay attention. I have already said I’ve only played 1 game in the past month. Do the math. It isn't costing me anything. If anything it cost you guys as now you can’t access my market trades lol
If you only play one game then what's the difference? If you don't play, the embargoes are meaningless to you.
As for the market, we don't use it, our resources are centralized as well.
Communism, what an idea.
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1 hour ago, Bartholomew Roberts said:
Dr. Rush is definitely not on the top of the list of "bad mods" in that server. In fact, he may be the best out of the lot.
Still waiting for the rest of the GOONSQUAD to respond back to me after falsely accusing me of fostering racism / hate speech. Or can I just assume you come into threads to troll and dip?
@hope @Salt Meat etc
Do you regularly require a pat on the back for performing basic moderation?
Good work, keep it up.
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Don't worry, it's still moderated, just not intolerably so.
As in, intolerance isn't moderated.
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Great to see, congratulations are due.
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Unacceptable Behavior
in Orbis Central
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Leaks are a fact of life here. People only took issue over dumping months of private conversations completely unfiltered.
I'm sure you're aware of this however, and would ask you not to play dumb about what's right and wrong, North Point member, but you're probably too busy handing out "free beige" to your coalition mates to listen.