[A Call to Arms]

Although I can't speak for gov, I don't see any situation in which they would refuse to negotiate in good faith if good faith was shown to us in return. This war has gone on for far too long, hell I've only been involved a week and I'm sick to death of it, can't get shit done because it's taking up too much time.

However, I don't see a reason T$ should pay back money owed by a bank that ceased operations 18 months ago, that's just silly.

[TF Peace Announcement]

54 minutes ago, Salt Meat said:

You cancelled a NAP and attacked us. 

I don't have to tell myself anything, I'm getting by just fine. TLE on the other hand, the future doesn't look bright.

Well, goons cancelled a NAP and attacked us. Funnily enough, when you treat treaties with others as worthless, people will do the same with treaties with you.

[A Call to Arms]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So we've gone from "force us to disband and delete" to "want us to disband and delete". However I like how you completely ignore the fact that you can surrender if you agree to the terms on the table. 

Can you tell me why OD has so much hatred for other alliances in what is, if I might remind you, a game?

You were winning...not anymore but whatevs, get over it.

[A Call to Arms]

1 minute ago, Unwanted said:

blah blah blah, Sleep in the beds you made yourselves and get cozy ?️ Do you blame your mother for you not knowing how to tuck your sheets in and put the quilt cover on, simply because she doesn't do it for you?

I'm trying to make sense of this post.

[A Call to Arms]

1 hour ago, Douglas MacArthur said:

When your alliance gets crushed like the rest of your coalition, the only surriender i would be satsified with is unconditional surriender to coalition B as that is the ONLY situation in which peace in orbis can be achieved.

Hello again,

 

I am sure that many members of coalition A would love to hear all about a surrender without conditions. Unconditional surrender does not of course apply here, as you have no way of going in and taking our resources from us without our consent: I must therefore assume that you meant to talk about surrender without conditions, in other words a white peace.

I have full confidence that, should such a thing be offered to the coalition in its entirety, the immortals would be prepared to speak with you. Unlike other alliances, certain principals in our rules (most notably the principal of creating a helpful and friendly community) do not allow us simply to abandon allies when they are in need of our help. We find that doing that would lead to alliances breaking down: I heard about a group of alliances which failed to respect their allies...and all their allies are beating them now. It must be very sad for them, but I guess the value of honour does not simply teach itself.

 

Wisshing you a most enjoyable day,

- Namukara

[A Call to Arms]

10 minutes ago, Douglas MacArthur said:

You will be crushed as with the other members of your coalition.

Good evening,

 

I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your consideration of our situation. Unfortunately, recent estimates, educated guesses, and consultations with the wise woman in the cave have informed us that your concern for our wellbeing, though touching is unfounded.

 

As the last week or so has shown, the immortals have ensured that your prognosis will not occur, due to the rapid intervention of our EMT (elephantine meatshield technique) strategy, coupled with recent advances in competence dynamic.

If you have any more concerns about the state of our health, I will be happy to put them to rest for you. Simply reply to this post with your concerns, and news as to when your people plan to surrender.

 

All the best,

 

- Namukara

[Friendly Unity Cooperation of Knightly Immortals Treaty]

Are we the new EMC or the new IQ then?

[sexual nation name]

40 minutes ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:

Milton isn't a member of GOONS, regardless my nation name is quite obviously satire that goes along with my Jazz R Oppenheimer leader name due to his immense works in the field of atomics.

Well, I only report because I have an interest in seing the rules upheld. I'm sure that's something you'd understand, but since goons, who usually do such a good job of doing this sometimes let some inappropriate fields fall through the net, I feel I'm doing everyone a favour by making sure that they don't go unreported.

[sexual nation name]

7 hours ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:

I don't see how this is offensive or in violation when Tipple Nicklers exists.

I don't see how tipple nicklers is accepted, I'm sure you'd report it if it was in another alliance

[sexual nation name]

I'm not sure how this hasn't been reported yet, so if it's a duplicate report sorry.

 

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=186528 

Nation name: large hardon collider

Hardon being as everybody knows a word used to refer to an erection.

Nation has been called large hardon collider for long enough that someone so active would have realised his mistake (if he was trying to name it large hadron collider) in time to get it rectified.

[An announcement from Pantheon]

Having now read the information, I can give a more considered response, rather than...you know, someone who just got pissed that all his alliances allies peaced out without letting us know first.

 

I can understand why you did it. The contents of those leaked logs were disgusting, and reveal the rather unpleasant opinion of some of our current allies towards this whole sphere, which has taken billions in damage in order to support them. The post from Akuryo is indefenceable, the rest simply unpleasant.

As it is however I won't be calling for TI to remove itself from the war. I see the threat to the game from an IQ victory of too great a cost to recommend such an exit, but understand why Pantheon, Schrute, DH, Horsemen and WTF believed differently. I don't begrudge you your peace and I thank you for standing with TI for the time you did.

[An announcement from Pantheon]

#StillUndefeated

[Goons are bad at fighting.]

20 minutes ago, REAP3R said:

General Secretary w00tles of Hobotown ordered an airstrike upon your nation of Badlands. The attack was an immense triumph. General Secretary w00tles's forces lost 0 aircraft, while your defenders lost 0 aircraft. You used 0.00 munitions and gasoline defending the attack. The attack destroyed 11.10 infrastructure in the city of Step 4 and $996.90.

How much gas and mun for that massively distructive strike? If it's 1 of either of those it's more than the money damage it did.

[slot filling]

War: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=589300 

 

Another war between black knights and Acadia. Declaring nation launches a naval attack, which hits a city with 946 infra.

Declaring nation currently has 30 ships, yet total infrastructure damage is only 1.6. Seems unlikely he is using his full forces here.

[Seizure inducing banner/background]

I don't know if it'll induce a seizure, but it definitely crashes screen readers.

[Boting talk]

agreed

[Account hacking (Leo)]

3 minutes ago, Alex said:

Again, assuming this is being triggered via some sort of Discord command, it's just making the game more convenient, not actually creating any unfair advantage. Going from your example, if you were in Discord and you had the bot connected to your account and you typed something like

!withdraw 100coal 6 "Here's 100 Coal from so-and-so"

And the bot took that input and made a withdrawal for 100 coal to the target nation with ID 6 and sent the message "Here's 100 Coal from so-and-so" that's not really giving you any unfair advantage. You could have logged in, made the withdrawal yourself, and send the message yourself, but the bot is setup to make that process more convenient for you. Again, bots that make things more convenient are generally allowed.

The reason that many here believe that this bot is illegal is that it does not actually require the bankers nation to be active to make the withdrawal. Therefore, it gives an advantage to BK (and anybody using this bot) that those of us without access to such programing knowledge do not have.

If I wanted to withdraw my resources or money from TI bank, I have to wait for Tyrion to be online. This is not the case for BK: meaning that a nation could theoretically put their money in the bank, get beiged and then remove it without having to wait for the banker to be online. This instancy is a luxury that the rest of us do not have.

[Inappropriate nation name]

Nation Link: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=3406

Name(s) in question: Tipple Nicklers

Is the name(s) for leader, nation, or city? Nation

 

Pretty obvious useof spoonerism to hide nation name 'nipple ticklers,' which I find would be unlikely to be accepted.

[Account hacking (Leo)]

I agree that a tool which allows funds to be withdrawn from the bank without the banker needing to be active increases unfairness within the game and should be banned. Games should not be 'code to win,' if your banker can't log on for a while then you don't get the cash out of the bank. Even if it is 'your own money,' that's part of the risk of making a safety deposit.

I deposited some money and resources with the TI bank, if I want to get them back and tyrion isn't online, kind of going to struggle with that one. It must be noted as well that this makes it extremely easy for BK members to bank potential loot just before beige, as they are fully aware they can instantly get it back. The rest of us don't have that security.

[[agreement] Interstellar - Opus Dei]

1 minute ago, Thalmor said:

I can't find a RoH or DoW anywhere. Why did Interstellar get dragged in?

Also, some of y'all need to calm down. Interstellar is a stupid micro. Them peacing out is irrelevant to the overall war effort and throwing a shit hemorrhage over it makes you look bad because although it's ridiculous by itself, it also makes you look like a hypocrite because you all jumped on Coal B for the same thing.

They were a TI prot, they responded when we got blitzed.

[[agreement] Interstellar - Opus Dei]

11 minutes ago, hope said:

Makes no difference who it was. It was shitty when Gorge was dunking on Colo B alliances for peacing out early (FR and others) and it’s equally as shitty when you guys do it. Just leave them be. You don’t have to say anything at all

Come back to us when we blitz them for it. Except that won't happen, because we have morals.

[[agreement] Interstellar - Opus Dei]

TI to-do list:

1. Win war

2. Sign non-traitor prots

[Unacceptable Behavior]

1 hour ago, durmij said:

Way to double down on the asinine nature of your original invocation. As much as IQ's whining, gas-lighting and victim theater might feel like attacks on your person, they aren't. IQ has no power to stop you from pursuing self expression on these boards, save from telling you they don't want to play with you anymore. You aren't being subjected, and never have been subjected to*, anything that would actually constitute interference. Your invoking of journalistic freedom is also equally asinine, as we live in a world that's becoming increasing more dangerous to actual journalists.

Your tangent into nations using citizens as collateral on loans, what level of Alex Jones nonsense is this? Also, your completely misrepresenting the difference between private and personal property in even the shittiest socialist systems, but all of this just leaves me wondering how on earth you expect that to be related?

*if IQ has actually interfered with your ability to express yourself, for example, black mailing or extorting you, stop using it as an argument to feel good on a forum and contact the appropriate authorities.

Does this work both ways? Can we simply tell IQ we don't want to play with them, and they'll be forced to allow everybody to leave under a white peace?

[Unacceptable Behavior]

3 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

I didn't say you were Hitler.

I said that you were everything wrong with the game since you kept wanting to bail to just play farmville and no one believed the 50b or whatever was yours. They're just flattering you now when they don't really like your playstyle either. Feel free to find the logs. Keshav was mad when you broke the deal yeah, but he had even agreed to the NAP.

I think everyone should be able to play the game how they like. Don't you?

[Unacceptable Behavior]

5 minutes ago, Yuno said:

Please stay on topic. This is not the place for it.

 

create your own thread for this textwall. besides, you have your own twist of IC events, that textwall. They have theirs: TMC hit a treatied NPO ally, NPO hit TMC back. Or: Fark should've stayed out of it to leave TMC to deal with their consequences. This could go on for endless pages.

 

Let's just express support for the phishing/hacking victim  and Discourage any malicious account/nation accessing (of nations not belonging to the hacker)  

Sorry about that, I saw other people expressing their war reasons so I thought it best to give mine.

2 minutes ago, kalev60 said:

Freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 19 of the UDHR states that "everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". 

Also all my " crimes" were committed under the umbrella of a New´s Agency so journalistic freedoms apply also, also one would argue most nations using the citizens as collateral to loans makes everything governmental entities and if going by socialistic ideas there is no such thing as private property....   But I understand your impulse on wanting to tap your finger on that sign

The international lawyer in me can't help but remind you that the UDHR is not legally binding