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    A Treatise on the Current War

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    47 minutes ago, Charles Bolivar said:

    You need to actually read what Hodor posted.

    No one claims Grumpy grew in a traditional manner. That's readily apparent to any and all and shouldn't even be a point of dispute. They aren't a traditional alliance, they are niche focused so it only makes sense they have a niche approach to growth.

    Grumpy's current upper tier growth, however, is based upon economic policies which cater specifically to whale and upper tier nations and in that sense, Hodor is a perfect example of why exactly larger nations migrate to Grumpy. The economic approach within most traditional AAs simply doesn't cater for the economic needs of larger nations which in turn leads to their eventual joining of Grumpy.

    So sure, most of Hodor's nation growth isn't an example as to why grumpy has a near dominance in the upper tier. But the reason he just provided, namely time between city purchases due to more efficient taxation, is itself part of the reason why the tier disparity exists and why larger nations join grumpy in the first place.

    If an alliance's upper tier is expected to foot the war and rebuild bill, often with little influence over the decision to go to war in the first place, then it's only natural and fair these same larger nations receive some sort of benefit gained via economic policy aimed specifically at ensuring their growth. And if this doesn't happen, you end up with a lagging upper tier growth, or larger nations who leave and go elsewhere. 

    Not that any of this should be a surprise, it's been a factor of good Econ management for about half a decade at this point which every alliance has attempted to address via the implementation of economic policies.

    Disclaimer: not gov, never was gov. I like reading these posts just to understand the drama. I am responding to this one because I am genuinely confused at the central argument being given.

     

    In the case of Grumpy, isn't their "more efficient taxation" literally zero taxes. From what I see, the only way they as an alliance generate any revenue is the 20m entrance fee and any war reparations (which I understand is a big no-no in the current meta, so just the entrance fee). It would be pretty difficult for any other alliance to be more efficient than zero taxes.

     

    Frankly I get the idea that Grumpy's economic policy is actually their foreign affairs policy, where they advocate for shorter, more frequent wars, wherein they take very little damage and continue to generate revenue while other alliances get reduced to rubble, both allies and enemies. And this unchecked growth is the reason we are targeting them in this war, the reason we have targeted them in the past and most likely will have to target them again in the future.  

     

    Inherently this war is a part of us trying to improve our economic policy in relation to Grumpy (and Guardian too I guess, but you guys seem to be avoiding the drama) by leveling some of their growth and trying to shake their image as untouchable. 

     

    Now back to the purpose of my making this post. What is the argument you are trying to make? Should we be putting all of our big players at 0 taxes, should we be inciting conflict between our opponents in order to allow us to war profiteer, should we put a Reagan mask on Justin and adopt trickle-up economics? Or do we keep throwing our nations at GG until the game shuts down in 10 years. 

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    We are here for the whales - t$ DoW

    in Alliance Affairs

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    54 minutes ago, Phoenyx said:

    I heard 3 hours myself. Anyway, it's basically everyone's word but Sphinx, and Sphinx isn't here to question, so yeah. The closest you guys have to someone who said that there was an attack planned against Quack who is still around may be Ronny, and even he believed that this plan died long before the war happened. When you factor in the fact that he didn't even talk to Swamp himself, but instead was -told- that there had been communication with Swamp by another HM leader, and when you look at that conversation log and see that it is even more ambiguous than Ronny's statements, well, perhaps time to re evaluate what you guys think you know? Up to you guys ofcourse.

    Literally 3 guys from the same alliance (Rose) but a different sphere on me within 15 minutes of my first declaration. Whoever told you a few hours is lying

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