*** Stick with this post. I understand it is long, but it is well worth the read ***
From The Desk of FireChiefFraggle
Fraggle Rock
Recently, The Nation of Fraggle Rock decided to spice up the advertising. You may have seen one of these two ads: Or Well, now it is time to reveal the information gained from these ads. Again, this will be long, but you won't regret it. Go grab a glass of water or a hot cup of tea and enjoy the show.
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From: Durham Date: 05/02/2016 Monday 11:42 pm Block Communications
how much is the price for one nuking
From: Fraggle Date: 05/02/2016 Monday 11:44 pm
Cost of the nuclear device plus 4 mil. Price goes down per nuke if bought in pairs or threes. Price goes further down if you want 5 at once.
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From: John F Kennedy Date: 05/03/2016 Tuesday 8:17 pm Block Communications
I saw your add for selling nukes, how much and how will I get it?
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From: Beowulf the Second Date: 05/05/2016 Thursday 2:26 am Block Communications
hahaha i don't have anyone in mind yet, but what's your going rate for nukes/spy ops?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/05/2016 Thursday 2:28 am
Well that's an one on one discussion when people are serious. On a related note.....I need 3 credits for my upcoming ads. I only pay 2 mil a credit...if you know of anyone willing to part for that price, I would pay you for a name.
Thanks....It's going to get better from here.
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From: Cray SEC Date: 05/06/2016 Friday 1:45 am Block Communications
What are your prices?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/06/2016 Friday 2:22 am
Depends on what you want done.
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You get the idea. a little nibbling, not much going on. The leader of Nuclear Knights, ApeMan (who has nothing to do with any of the ads and asked me to pull them, which I refused, went and posted on the forums: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12774-nk-and-fraggle-advertisements/
We had a back and forth and I gave my assurances that I would not spy nor use nuclear weapons while in the alliance.
The ads stayed up....the hook was in the water......and then this happened.....
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From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 12:41 am Block Communications
Dear Fraggle,
Would you mind conducting some peaceful nuclear tests near the nation of Moreau III? (https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=14727) Please let me know if I can help fund such a fruitful research agenda.
Yours,
Kemal
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 12:44 am
No problem. Let's discuss my compensation. 7 mil per nuke plus costs to build. Price goes down if you buy more than one.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 12:50 am Block Communications
Great to hear! How much would 9 nukes against him cost? (each nuke targeted on the 2000 infra cities)
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 12:53 am
50 mil plus the costs to build.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 12:56 am Block Communications
OK, I will talk with my friends and return to you soon. See you!
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:18 am Block Communications
Just to make sure, the costs to rebuild would be just infra, correct? Does it include nukes that you build but got spied away?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:25 am
No The costs are to build the nukes. If they get spied away after purchase, no refund. Although I have an extensive spy network. I will rebuild my own nation.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:27 am Block Communications
Hmm, that's tricky. Could you give me a price for 9 confirmed nuke hits, then? If you build and shoot them immediately, none would get destroyed.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:35 am
Manufacture Cost (each) 750 Aluminum 500 Gas 250 Uranium $1,750,000
Current Market Price: Aluminum: 1850 Per x 750 x 9 = 12,487,500
Gas: 2100 Per x 500 x 9 = 9,450,000
Uranium: 4000 Per x 250 x 9 = 9,000,000
1,750,000 To Build One x 9 = 15,750,000
Build Costs Alone: 46,687,500
My Costs: 50 Million. All nine can be launched at the same time, if I find a right partner willing to launch with me. So that's over 96 mil.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:39 am Block Communications
If you can guarantee 9 nuke hits, 100m sounds fair. If this is too low, please give my your own price contingent on 9 hits.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:43 am
You're set on the number 9 for some reason. I don't care why you want 9. I can guarantee a successful attack. I will work out the details with another nation if this goes through. Together, two nations can handle it with no problem.
I'd prefer the material and cost build up front. I normally set up a third party to hold onto my costs. You can pick a third party if you want.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:48 am Block Communications
The reason I wanted guaranteed hits is that people might spy your nukes away before you shoot them all. But yes, if you do it with a partner, you can land all 9 nukes before they get spied away. If you guarantee 9 nuke hits (against the 9 2000 infra cities of Moreau III) for 100m, then it's a deal.
Who would you trust as a third party? I am willing to publicly declare the agreement so that you can hold me to my word.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:50 am
We can keep it under wraps for now. I have 60 spies and plenty of nukes on hand. I'll know if someone is coming for me before they can get close to the nukes.
The fewer people who know, the better.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:54 am Block Communications
OK, I raised a pledge of 65m until now. I will let you know when I hit 100m.
Please let me know of third parties you would trust. Anyone in Mensa or the Syndicate?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 1:58 am
I'm thinking someone in a lower alliance.
I know this guy a little...but the threat of crossing us would get it done
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=*****(Redactedbecause I just picked a low level nation)
I would prefer to stay away from higher alliances.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 2:01 am
We can work it out later on. Take care of your end and I'll handle my business.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/10/2016 Tuesday 2:02 am Block Communications
OK, I will let you know when 100m is at hand. Take care!
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/11/2016 Wednesday 2:43 pm Block Communications
100m is ready.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/11/2016 Wednesday 2:47 pm
Alright. I can start building the nukes. It'll take 9 days to finish. I'm ready to receive supplies. We can figure out who the third party will be to hold onto the money during this period.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 12:58 am
The sooner I can get building these nukes, the sooner I can start dropping them.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:25 am Block Communications
I will accept to send the 100m to a third party we mutually trust, and the sum will be delivered contingent on 9 successful nuke attacks on Moreau III's nation. Who do you trust in Mensa or the Syndicate? Or another person in our sphere?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:31 am
I believe if you scroll down a bit you will notice one of my previous messages. I laid out the costs to build the nukes. I have zero intentions on using my own nukes for this. They need to be paid and built before the strike.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:41 am Block Communications
If you are unwilling to trust me, why do you expect me to trust you?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:44 am
I trust you way more than I trust many others. I need assurances and a reason to truly prepare to launch these.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:47 am Block Communications
OK then, here's my proposal: I send you 50m right away to cover the nuke costs. Contingent on 9 successful nuke strikes on Moreau III, I will send you the remaining 50m. I trust you with the first half, and you trust me with the latter. You can publicly reveal these logs if I don't pay you. Does that sound reasonable?
As I said, I am even willing to put it down in writing in public forums, but you said you want the element of surprise.
From: Fraggle Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:50 am
I'm fine with that. I assumed that was going to be the deal to begin with, except the second 50 mil. But we can work it out this way.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 1:51 am Block Communications
Sounds good then. I will send the 50m right away. Please shoot me a PM when the fun begins, xdxd.
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Fraggle Rock Fraggle Nuclear Knights Incistan Kemal Ergenekon Mensa HQ 05/12/2016 01:57 am 5 50,000,000 (10,000,000 ea)
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It is at this point that some might be thinking "Well Fraggle said she wouldn't nuke or spy while in the alliance. So maybe she left to go carry out this plan. But that wouldn't be typical of Fraggle Rock. When the last message came in, a second conversation started. This overlaps in time frame, but is the full conversation:
Also during the conversation....
05/12 03:14 am - founded a new city, Kemals City.
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<FireChiefFraggle>: around?
<Oblige|BNC>: H
<Oblige|BNC>: Hi
<Oblige|BNC>: I am now
<FireChiefFraggle>: Didnt think any of you Rose government workers showed up
<Oblige|BNC>: Do you still need me firechieffraggle ?
<Oblige|BNC>: I was at a charity event
<FireChiefFraggle>: How was that?
<Oblige|BNC>: Bad reception
<FireChiefFraggle>: Dang. Good charity though?
<Oblige|BNC>: Good, I got an award I didn't deserve, which was embarrassing, but otherwise ok
<FireChiefFraggle>: I bet you deserved it but have the same feeling of most people that don't want the recognition
<Oblige|BNC>: I don't lol
<FireChiefFraggle>: Or that....lol
<FireChiefFraggle>: Anyways....I have some serious business with your alliance
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can't seem to get a hold of any officers lately
<Oblige|BNC>: Ok
<Oblige|BNC>: What is the business?
<FireChiefFraggle>: I normally would go through Pub...but he is impossible to find
<FireChiefFraggle>: You may have noticed a couple of ads lately.....
<FireChiefFraggle>: Well they have served their purpose and drummed up some great intel
<FireChiefFraggle>: Without getting into too much details.....there is an alliance in the top 15 willing to pay me to drop 9 nuclear weapons on one of your members
<Oblige|BNC>: One specifically!
<Oblige|BNC>: ?
<Oblige|BNC>: Is it me ?
<FireChiefFraggle>: Is it not you. I also will not divulge who it is. But it is not you.
<FireChiefFraggle>: It's very detailed
<FireChiefFraggle>: And I have the cash and resources in hand from this nation to go ahead and build the nukes
<Oblige|BNC>: Oh
<Oblige|BNC>: So why are you talking to us then ?
<FireChiefFraggle>: I have no intention of actually doing it.
<FireChiefFraggle>: Like I already said...I have the money and resources and proof from this alliance
<Oblige|BNC>: Oh
<Oblige|BNC>: Why not?
<FireChiefFraggle>: I see an opportunity
<Oblige|BNC>: Lay it out for me
<FireChiefFraggle>: As it stands...I have the proof and money/resources from this alliance
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can do one of two things.
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can follow through and get crushed by Rose....which I have no intention on doing
<FireChiefFraggle>: Or I can take thse resources and money...keep them and sell the proof to Rose
<FireChiefFraggle>: In where you guys can do what you want with it
<Oblige|BNC>: That does seem to be ideal
<Oblige|BNC>: How much are you looking to receive as compensation for said proofs?
<FireChiefFraggle>: This person really wants this to happen......Has already paid me 46.5 mil for the build costs
<Oblige|BNC>: Oooo spendy
<FireChiefFraggle>: There is another 55 mil currently sitting in a third party account.....waiting for me to hit the nation
<FireChiefFraggle>: I quoted him 50 mil....he rounded it up to 100
<Oblige|BNC>: So you're looking for 55m?
<FireChiefFraggle>: In that range. I enjoy you the style of Rose and I also wouldnt mind a war between these two alliances, as it will only drive the food market up a bit more
<Oblige|BNC>: Ok
<Oblige|BNC>: Well
<FireChiefFraggle>: Again, this proof is way more than enough
<Oblige|BNC>: Given what you're telling me, I hope you don't mind if I ask for the proofs first and then send payment secondly
<Oblige|BNC>: Also, I assume said proofs include the mention that the contract is coming from another AA
<FireChiefFraggle>: I would have to redact the name
<Oblige|BNC>: Directly
<Oblige|BNC>: And not just a rogue member
<Oblige|BNC>: As tempting as that is, it seems evident that escrow situations don't work well with you
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can't say that either way
<FireChiefFraggle>: My reputation does follow me
<Oblige|BNC>: Given that you might simply return to the original member and ask for *more* money not to remit their blacked out name
<FireChiefFraggle>: That's a solid idea
<Oblige|BNC>: Thus netting you the best possible return
<Oblige|BNC>: Sadly, I can't fritter away Rose money that way
<FireChiefFraggle>: Well again....I am looking out for my nation first
<Oblige|BNC>: Can't blame you!
<FireChiefFraggle>: I have a history of not caring about tanking my nation
<Oblige|BNC>: That's very true
<FireChiefFraggle>: The fact that this person approached me seemed weird at best
<Oblige|BNC>: I do remember you throwing it to the flames vs VE some months ago
<FireChiefFraggle>: But as this has progressed and the first round of resources and cashed actually came through
<FireChiefFraggle>: Thats when I decided to approach the other side
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can go either way on this and spin it in a way that fits my style...or I can play it better for myself
<FireChiefFraggle>: Given the history of these two alliances...I truly believe this info will be well worth it
<Oblige|BNC>: Right
<Oblige|BNC>: So how about this
<Oblige|BNC>: Give me the name and the AA
<Oblige|BNC>: No proof
<Oblige|BNC>: Or with the proof with name blacked out
<FireChiefFraggle>: That doesnt help me
<FireChiefFraggle>: I dont need Rose trying to backdoor this
<Oblige|BNC>: It helps you get the money?
<FireChiefFraggle>: Technically I have his money
<Oblige|BNC>: Well
<Oblige|BNC>: Rose money
<FireChiefFraggle>: So you want too names for money? That wouldn't work for me
<Oblige|BNC>: Is there any system that ensures I get the information and you get the money that works for you?
<FireChiefFraggle>: I think so...not sure what is it yet.
<FireChiefFraggle>: As I truly see it...
<FireChiefFraggle>: You now know of this plan. I can go ahead and nuke this nation.....and still have the info....
<Oblige|BNC>: That seems to work poorly for both of us
<FireChiefFraggle>: I'm not nuking Rose for shits and giggles.....Outside of Adama....which was fun
<Oblige|BNC>: But I mean
<Oblige|BNC>: How many nukes can you do in a war? 7?
<Oblige|BNC>: So you need to Dow then twice ?
<FireChiefFraggle>: Most I've gotten off on a nation was 3
<FireChiefFraggle>: Yea
<Oblige|BNC>: So
<Oblige|BNC>: I mean
<Oblige|BNC>: Depending on what level the member is the damage probably wouldn't be too bad
<FireChiefFraggle>: Very True
<Oblige|BNC>: But the rebuild costs would be the money I'd use to pay you off
<Oblige|BNC>: So to speak
<FireChiefFraggle>: But I could also take the second option of going all in and nuking 5 of Rose nations
<FireChiefFraggle>: in for a pound... so to speak
<FireChiefFraggle>: So the damage for those 9 nukes would be comparable
<Oblige|BNC>: I mean at the end of the day that's not super consequential to us
<Oblige|BNC>: We have a lot of money
<Oblige|BNC>: As they say
<FireChiefFraggle>: And the reason why we are talking. I believe the info is well worth the money
<FireChiefFraggle>: I can confirm that I have the cash in hand from this alliance
<Oblige|BNC>: Mmmhmm
<Oblige|BNC>: But sadly
<Oblige|BNC>: You're trying to sell me on your integrity
<Oblige|BNC>: While also selling out the other guy
<Oblige|BNC>: So info and proof first
<Oblige|BNC>: Payment second
<FireChiefFraggle>: Valid
<FireChiefFraggle>: I enjoy this back and forth
<Oblige|BNC>: I'm nothing if not a patient negotiator
<FireChiefFraggle>: Let me ask you a question
<FireChiefFraggle>: If someone else who did not have the reputation that I do came to you with credible info about a top alliance planning an attack against your member...would you drive such a hard bargain?
<Oblige|BNC>: Yes
<Oblige|BNC>: Of course
<Oblige|BNC>: Put up or shut up as they say
<FireChiefFraggle>: Fair enough...let's play this out a different way
<FireChiefFraggle>: Let's say I go through with this plan.....take the other 50 mil from this nation and carry out the attacks
<FireChiefFraggle>: What would the members of Rose say to one of the officers who had a long conversation with me and knew of the impending attacks?
<FireChiefFraggle>: Sure you guys can rock my nation back into the stone age.....I've been there before....but I also can rebuild quickly and have the cash
<Oblige|BNC>: I mean I
<Oblige|BNC>: Already pinged the rest of the leadership about it
<FireChiefFraggle>: You know what I'm doing
<FireChiefFraggle>: If I sold this info...I would want the money and assurances of not being attacked by Rose
<Oblige|BNC>: What are you doing ?
<Oblige|BNC>: Yes
<FireChiefFraggle>: I'd like to strike a deal in which you have the info.....I have cash...and hopefully nothing comes my way
<FireChiefFraggle>: Hopefully Rose stands up for me if this alliance does want revenge
<FireChiefFraggle>: Still there?
<Oblige|BNC>: I mean
<Oblige|BNC>: That deal is satisfactory
<Oblige|BNC>: Also I need to go to bed
<FireChiefFraggle>: Before you do
<FireChiefFraggle>: I'll point you to some info.
<Oblige|BNC>: Ok
<FireChiefFraggle>: This person may have been repaying a debt to me....or something else
<FireChiefFraggle>: go check ym trade activity
<FireChiefFraggle>: my*
<FireChiefFraggle>: 5909
<Oblige|BNC>: lol
<Oblige|BNC>: Kemal so silly
<FireChiefFraggle>: I know right? Owing me that much for food? I should have known to collect eariler
<FireChiefFraggle>: But back to nuking your alliance.
<Oblige|BNC>: And you're sure the target wasn't me?
<Oblige|BNC>: Ok
<Oblige|BNC>: Nn
<FireChiefFraggle>: I know the target
<FireChiefFraggle>: Yea...it was a matter of time before someone saw that transaction
<FireChiefFraggle>: So that one is on me and free for you
<Oblige|BNC>: I had already checked
<Oblige|BNC>: And bank logs too
<FireChiefFraggle>: and lends me a bit of credibility about what we talked about
<Oblige|BNC>: No fool over here
<Oblige|BNC>: Ok
<Oblige|BNC>: Well I will bring it to my people
<Oblige|BNC>: Nn
<FireChiefFraggle>: Ok....Well again I have no intention on doing it yet.. But I do have great info about all of it and it's worth the time and money to think about
<FireChiefFraggle>: Have a great night and thanks for talking about this,,,,,you guys should be around more in the future
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I'll give credit to Oblige, he is a fair and patient negotiator. The night ends.
The following day:
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From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 2:47 pm Block Communications
When should I expect the attack?
From: Fraggle Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 2:58 pm
3-4 weeks. I gotta get within his range by building up a bit.
From: Kemal Ergenekon Date: 05/12/2016 Thursday 3:03 pm Block Communications
He is 3 points above your range.
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A little more back and forth goes on between myself and Rose (Pub) I explain the situation and we have a deal in place.
05/13 02:03 am Oblige of Eden has sent your nation $40,000,000.00, 0.00 food, 0.00 coal, 0.00 oil, 0.00 uranium, 0.00 lead, 0.00 iron, 0.00 bauxite, 0.00 gasoline, 0.00 munitions, 0.00 steel, and 0.00 aluminum from the alliance bank of Rose.
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Aren't you all glad you stuck around for the ending? I was. Now go grab another cup of tea and let's all watch the fall out. Thanks to everyone involved.