[Where we droppin bois?]

8 minutes ago, King Arthur said:

I am not sure who would turn down that challenge. 

 

[The Hobo Express - Part Four!]

6 hours ago, Akuryo said:

I mean at least they gave you goals at all, lol. Better than what most protectors seem to do ?

Haha they did. They could have been harder and I think we would have beat them as well.

We only slowed growth when we hit what we believe our bank could handle. No sense in having members you can't actually help. 

[The Hobo Express - Part Four!]

16 minutes ago, Akuryo said:

Remember that time BC got a protectorate and set really pathetically low growth goals for them?
Those guys. 

Nailed it!

[The Hobo Express - Bad Co Bound!]

Gotta add another car to that train. 

[The couping of Sirius]

8 minutes ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said:

Lots of words

What do you think is silly, Fist? The idea that various perspectives exists or the fact that you fail to see it is necessary to have. You cannot be so self-righteous to believe that what you done wouldn't be considered no different than what Dusty did. If you are than you need to open that box you call a mind and grab a clue. 

 

[The couping of Sirius]

12 hours ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said:

 

I know Dusty's actions must make him a EMC hero in your guy's eyes, but what he did was fricked up(As was what you and your alliance has done). He offered help, lied, couped them and then(Perhaps it was this partner) destroyed them.. Being naive doesn't mean they deserve that...They where doing their best to try and save their alliance, and trusted the wrong person. Any sane halfway decent human would recognize that what happened was fricked up.. How do you guys not...? Are bad things only bad if they happen to you or your side? I think there is a word for people who think like you

Are you guys trying to continue to spread that BS? I had hoped we where past that, but with people like you guys, go figure hahah

A lot has changed while I was out, it's been bizarre(And sad =/) seeing what a post IC TKR is like, how the treaty web has changed so drastically, and how much worse the OWF has gotten. People nowadays seem to just toss away truth and believe/support anything, no matter how bullshit it is in reality...if supports their narrative. While it has always been a thing, it's now dominant to the point where exceptions are almost unseen. It feels like the decent members of this game have all either gone silent or left, to the point where it seems the community at large sees nothing wrong with a small alliance being lied to, tricked and destroyed...

We have not done anything you have accused us of... We never couped a micro, used them as meet shields(Or even put pressure one one to enter a war), or have given them false hope(Whether they meet their goals is largely an unknown, though we do our best to help them get there). Making a habit of BSing like you to so you can shit talk(Does it make you feel strong or something?) is poor form, and just bad for the game. 

I think making an appeal to morality on the PnW OWF would be a waste of my time, but perhaps some of you can be reasoned with. While shit talking and enjoying the misfortunes of weak alliances/people who have done little to deserve it may feel good to a lot of people here, you are creating(Have created really) a shit post truth world in this game where all there is the most stupid of shit talk. It creates a toxic environment that ruins the game in many ways. Politics with people who are so warped that they cant understand anything that isn't in their favor isn't fun, conversing with a community that shit talks so much for the stupidest reasons isn't fun, dealing with people who have no principal or self awareness is not fun. I think if we continue this way, the game will go the way of CN and die. I have seen many talented, competent, morally straight people turned off to this game because of this crap. I'm sure a lot of the people here enjoy hearing that, I just hope it isn't a majority

Do better.




 

You can calm down there.

You may not like it when people bring up what you done to regain control of Pantheon in a negative light. We get it that in your eyes you rode in as a white knight to save an alliance making death noises. That is your perspective. Others have the view that you took advantage, done the alliance dirty, no different than what you are claiming DustyDart done. 

So instead of coming out here beating your chest, trying to climb the podium of higher morality over the cesspool, you can reflect how your alliance can be a better protector and train your little minions. Let's be honest you have obligation to ensure their success which you failed. 

 

OOC: Many of those people you view as toxic have been extremely helpful with the micro I belong too. You might forget that we are all playing characters in this game. Some people are villains while others are heroes. If people are choosing to walk away from the game because they cannot understand this than they were truly never playing the game. 

Like it or not the game is called politics & war. Not arts & crafts. So being able to have various opinions and drama is good for the game overall. If you and others wise to take a moral position than we need players to take the immoral stance. It's already a boring game where nothing happens so grab your crew and I'll grab mine so we can have a good old politic drama fight in public. 

Let's make PnW great again. 

[The Mighty Atlantic Declaration of Existence]

10 minutes ago, Vynneis said:

Oof, personal comments is the best way to win an argument.

Hold on..we're expected to be relevant? Fair enough about the protectorates though, I'd have liked us to get rid of all of ours. Don't get who's "trying to be relevant" though, TMA? Because they did a DOE? Lmao. Us? Because we did.. according to you, nothing besides signing Pantheon..? 

This whole thing started from my opinion that Godfury is an unknown. You decided to fend its honor by trying to prove how relevant you guys are. 

Not sure why you are so upset by it. 

[The Mighty Atlantic Declaration of Existence]

1 hour ago, Vynneis said:

Doesn't change that you guys haven't done anything at all. Never said that you claimed your alliance did anything, just pointed out that it hasn't done anything, and yet one of it's high gov feels as if they're able to claim other alliances have done nothing. The fact you guys aren't even top 50 after 102 days shows how shitty your AA is.  Not denying that we certainly aren't in any way the best, or even good, but we've actually improved, what have you guys done besides sit on your asses for 102 days?

Also, regarding the only times you heard of us being Panth and Great Job!; Rose protects us, we're fighting in the global (sure we joined late, but if you call us pixel huggers despite us staying in the war this long you're beyond saving), had some minor conflicts at the start of GF that nobody bothered documenting cause, to be fair, they were irrelevant. idk what kinda standard you're setting as your expectations for us, but they're hella fricking dumb. 

Are you going to be alright? I can see I really hit a sore spot. 

You can smack talk my terrible mirco all you want, I'd likely help you, but here is the thing. We are a mirco doing its thing in the world so its expected to not be relevant. Your an alliance that is protecting another that has been trying to be relevant. 

[The Mighty Atlantic Declaration of Existence]

1 hour ago, Vynneis said:

I'd suggest you take a look at your own alliance before talking shit, like TU has anything to talk about at all? 

Read my last post. 

[The Mighty Atlantic Declaration of Existence]

4 hours ago, Akuryo said:

They've got more than you at least. And the only thing notable about mine is that it's run by a lunatic.

Zinger! 

Don't believe I've claimed otherwise nor does it change the fact that no one knows anything about them. Other than being tied to Pantheon and having been Great Job!'s worst alliance of the week.

[The Mighty Atlantic Declaration of Existence]

24 minutes ago, CitrusK said:

Woah Sean, Godfury? At first I thought you hit rock bottom with Acadia... but Godfury? What the actual hell is that alliance? I've only heard one thing from them, and that they signed with Pantheon. I literally know nothing else about that alliance. 

Looks like you know everything about Godfury that is worth talking about. 

[The Hobo Express]

You can hide your junk in the Underground 

[New Players Joining Alliances]

This is a terrible idea and one that completely takes a big portion of the game away for players. Forcing people to join certain alliances only stagnates their interest further than this game already does naturally. Too many people blame mircos for the death of another game when it was the death of politics that killed it. 

Here is the thing, in my terrible little mirco I've actually spent a fair chunk of time engaging players,  who had little desire to use a secondary, trying to entice them into the bigger world they play in. With some success I might add. When I joined this game I went right into a Top Alliance. That was overwhelming since I knew next to no one and felt more of a number than anything. After sometime there I got bored of reading guides and sitting around that I started thinking about walking away from the game. That's when I realized that in order to have fun I'd have to forge my own path so I hooked up with old friend who introduced me to Gov life in PNW. While in Gov I dealt with some terrible mirco drama but realised it was making this boring game a hell of a lot more interesting for me. 

So when I was asked to help a friend make this terrible mirco I jumped on board with the idea that if I actually engaged players who are new in a meaningful way that they will want to play this longer and add to the community. So the small more personal environment might be a great way to get players more involved in the game. 

I understand that so many of you want to blame mircos for players quitting out when there are many reasons why. Things like how alliances don't do anything other than existing, wars that last 3 months too long, the long peace in between wars, the lack of drama and such. A game is supposed to be entertaining so let's make it that.

[Lordaeron Announcement]

1 hour ago, element85 said:

 

Yeah and then he also just mass up voted me.. He really is trying to go after my god of downvotes title.

 

Dont worry we got your back. 

[A PSA for @everyone that is @here]

25 minutes ago, Noctis said:

I forgot Lucifer had ever downvoted me until he wanted to let me know he dislikes me (and guess let me know he also does it), although I dislike him for completely different reasons.

(Also your post now is first I’ve heard of anyone in BC getting people to downvote me; so don’t think I ever said that. That’s news to me, although interesting to know)

My bad, I have a hard time getting BC off the brain. Happens. 

Either way my point stands. Feel free to take my advice to step back and use that thing upon your shoulders before posting. Keep in mind that depending on what your goals are in this world that your actions here can hurt, or help, you in achieving them. 

[A PSA for @everyone that is @here]

34 minutes ago, Noctis said:

You’re making several assumptions, which are I think the overall up or down votes by someone’s name matters & the other being I hold a grudge against people who downvote stuff. I don’t care enough about Settra to have a grudge against him, don’t even know him.

It's a rather safe assumption when you have been going on and on about BC getting people to downvote you. Thing is if you had half a clue you would ignore and move on. Yet instead you respond. 

Now this has been completely off topic so you, do you buddy.

[A PSA for @everyone that is @here]

Just now, Noctis said:

I don’t think you read the post I was responding to before responding.

I did and my response is the same. You obviously have a grudge and get bent out of shape. It doesn't matter if they tell people to downvote you or not since we all know you'll give us that sweet, sweet reaction. Basically, you are an easy target that isn't aware that they are doing more harm than good for themselves. 

 

[A PSA for @everyone that is @here]

5 minutes ago, Noctis said:

I think it’s alteady well known to most many on your AA vote as they’re told & how many upvotes you guys have by your names mean almost nothing. (I’ve even been told this by others)

I find it amusing how blatantly obvious you make it, rather than get annoyed.

I think you need to take a step back. 

You get downvoted because you are a salty person who makes your alliance look bad. Which is a shame. 

[Bombardier Declaration of Secession]

17 hours ago, Zyphy said:

Every day some micro comes into existence, I cannot keep up with this. 

 

And another dies. It's the circle of life.

 

[Bittersweet End]

Things like this is what ruins games and communities. 

I am grateful to have met you Freya. 

[Lesson of the Day]

36 minutes ago, MoonShadow said:

Oddly enough before this happened I told you that two of your high level Gov's was planning on forming their own alliance, warned you that they was running around asking people to join them, gov members from other alliances as well.

You told me you already knew and yet you did nothing, or did you.

Has Kevanoiva really left, did he really steal the bank, I personally do not believe so i think this is yet another plan by you to screw over your alliance and "allies" and i use that term very loosely as you have always seen yourself better than your Allies, You knew Kev and Charlie was planning on leaving BC and forming their own alliance, NOW you claim you did not know Kev was the leak, but yet you knew he was going to other alliances trying to poach members to leave and join him and Charlie, knowing this before the 13th makes me wonder WHY did you give him the bank ?, so i wonder who is the biggest clown, all of PNW to believe your story, or you for thinking it would work?

So, am I missing something here? I could have swore what you quoted was about Cynic robbing the bank and him blaming Kev for the leaks. 

Wait.. Kev is a Cynic multi! 

[The Underground DoE]

2 hours ago, Anneal said:

I can see the reasoning in that, but alliances like KT and TKR were well planned out and had a strong base of members before it was even established, and NPO had already existed in CN for quite some time before entering P&W. I personally have no beef with micros, but its leaders have to be experienced and know what they’re doing if they expect to remotely succeed.  People should join a major alliance for a while and have a good feeling for the game before leaving to make their own micro.

Couldn't agree more with you. The biggest problem with mircos is that too many people run out and start one without having any knowledge of the world they are in. So people who join them enter into a black hole that sucks the enjoyment of the game from them. 

That's is exactly why we took our time in organizing and creating plans to help us make it through. RH, nor myself, are no strangers to this game and others like it. My reasoning for helping him in this adventure is that it fulfills my desire do something new (to me) and to help newer players along in their journey with hope that they have the same love for this game that we do. 

We didn't want to start a new alliance with a dozen of other players since it wouldn't allow the newer ones the chance to create and shape their own culture. That is part of why some players lose interest. When you join a big alliance it can be intimidating and impersonal. Some tend to feel like mindless drones or lost. All we do is fill a need for those players while being experienced and organized well enough to teach them the ways of Orbis. 

[The Underground DoE]

7 minutes ago, TheShadow said:

Basically a vassal then
Good Luck.

Inactives from the beginning
This project is doomed to failure from the very beginning
RIP

Rome wasn't built in a day. We know how much work will be required in order to achieve any success in this world and as long as we follow our plan and have patience there is little need to be concerned. 

[The Underground DoE]

33 minutes ago, Mad Max said:

Interesting VPA - what if the said alliance doesn't wish to merge into BC, what does BC do at that point? Additionally, why the mention of the ODP - seems like BC controls authority of the upgrade without negotiation to the protected signatory? If they don't want it then they can cancel their protection?

Nice flag tho.

Most of those questions are better answered by BC. All I can offer is my perspective. 

If we fail to meet the expectations laid out by the treaty, and BC, than really we don't deserve to exist. It is why I have no concern with the merge clause. The problem with many mircos is that they exist way longer than necessary. 

[The Underground DoE]

3 minutes ago, TheShadow said:

Wow
When was I appointed?

An honorable mention. 

Give them 3 weeks, tops.