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3 hours ago, Bobert said:
does that mean I have to go through more people to find the secrete of the sneks shitposting powers?
Please remove that guinea pig from your profile picture.
It brings back bad memories
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I really enjoyed that week we had before permawar began
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Going from Pika as leader to Kev?
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I miss the old BK, straight from OO BK
The Yoso BK, set on his ayy BK
I hate the new BK, the IQ BK
The Comrade Milton BK, spaz in the OWF BK
I miss the funny BK, making memes BK
I gotta say, at that time I'd like to treaty BK
See, I grew up with BK, it wasn't any BKs
And now I look and look around and there's so many BKs
I used to love BK, I used to love BK
I even had the ayy lmao bot, I thought I was BK
What if BK made a song about BK
Called "We don't want a new hegemoney"? Man, that'd be so BK
That's all it was BK, we still love BK
And I love you like BK loves BK
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Goodbye fellow pigeon
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Whatever you did Squeegee deserves worse
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7 minutes ago, Cinomoo said:
Wait, you think they will come back after 6 months? that's cute.
Many of the people that were banned for 6 months have been playing nation sims for 10 years. In fact, Keshav justified intentionally driving people out of the game by saying he didn't want to find himself with regret 10 years from now.
So yes, I worry that this is a slap on the wrist and the benefit they got from the alleged cheating outweighs this 6 month ban.
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Just now, Alex said:
I am being lenient, because my intention is not to be partisan or to destroy NPO / their coalition.
Isn't the most non-partisan action you can take to enforce rules equally regardless of side?
For example when Nova cheated the people proven to be involved were permanently banned if I recall correctly. Shouldn't the same thing be done here now that another side has done it?
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I haven't reviewed the information yet but if this is true 6 months seems like a lenient punishment considering the permanent bans that have been handed out in the past.
Why was that not the case here for such massive fraud? @Alex
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44 minutes ago, Roquentin said:
The channel was renamed after it was rumored TCW would hit. That's what it was about. You don't have to take my word for it. Ask someone else.
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12 minutes ago, Roquentin said:We always explained our rationale calmly
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Weird normally IQ only tries lobbying admins/mods in DMs
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2 hours ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:frick it, we'll kill you off too. Bandwagoners
>Form AA and almost immediately join in on a massive dogpile
>Complain about bandwagoning when the fight becomes more even
Oh the horror
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16 minutes ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:I think Smith is very handsome
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Hamster guy: It doesn't matter what people think of us
Also hamster guy: I will literally never stop arguing or admit I may have made a mistake somewhere
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The TKR/TCW split was fake
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1 hour ago, ComradeMilton said:
I take it you didn't check the dates on the logs? The people who made them made them before any negotiations began here.
This is just incorrect. Not hard to believe,, but if most CoA members think like this it's no wonder they're out of control and preventing negotiations.
You realize I can just post logs showing you are lying right?
Early November here is NPO amongst others discussing how to stall peace talks:
underlordgc11/3/2019, 7:55:58 AM
Anyways, I can give a link to kertogibdvsujs to join the peace server
underlordgc11/3/2019, 7:56:43 AM
And we can just stall them by saying we want people to get organized or some random bs like that
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TheNG11/1/2019, 4:46:18 PM
I mean there’s plenty of ways to slow down talks
TheNG11/1/2019, 4:46:29 PM
We have reps demands in our back pocket
TheNG11/1/2019, 4:46:40 PM
The various humiliating joke terms
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Leo the Great11/1/2019, 6:01:53 PM
I don’t think the discussion was about about actually finding peace
Leo the Great11/1/2019, 6:02:08 PM
Rather two different ways of prolonging it till they are dead
Roquentin11/1/2019, 6:02:17 PM
ah
Roquentin11/1/2019, 6:02:26 PM
well the not including thme is a goood stlal tactic
Leo the Great11/1/2019, 6:02:33 PM
Drag peace talks vs insist on separating them
Roquentin11/1/2019, 6:02:44 PM
separate talks for anyone not kertchogg proper
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A couple weeks later here is NPO amongst others blaming us for peace talks not going fast after planning to make them slow:
They even made the argument that they were trying to increase the speed of peace talks while secretly planning to do the opposite
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45 minutes ago, brucemna said:
Well the logs I recall seem to be sated the month of october mostly. As for it being a member or was is the key word then obviously he passed the logs to u with intent of forcing u away from the table for their own benefit amd gain meaning u either payed or promised something possibly. If they did it on their own volition then I would question that person's motives and possibly through talking u may get that answer.
Yes there were more October logs as we were only halfway into November when this thread was made, but the logs continue into November showing their intent.
However, it kinda seems like no matter what answer we give you or how much evidence we provide you there doesn't seem to be a scenario in which you would accept that the blame lies with your leadership. Am I wrong on this? Because I've pointed out multiple misconceptions that you have had and you seem to just move the goal post.
If we prove that they were still doing things in November then you say that you thought it was mostly happening in October. If we show it's not from a third party you say the person is untrustworthy. Then you say we must have paid or promised them something.
We are providing tons of evidence for our claims while you make assumptions such as this with no proof whatsoever. Why is that?
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45 minutes ago, brucemna said:
Let's see here. U dont want to negotiate or walk away from talks cause a third party supplied u with logs that may or may not want peace talks cause they are part of the war or not a d may benefit the war continuing ? Seriously .. dont u think there comes a point where someone may have played ur side and they got the best of u. U say my side wants to prolong this but yet u keep dumping logs pushing ur opponent away to talk ? Personally if logs like this were posted in the public forum and used as propaganda to make r side look bad like this u think I would actually come and give u a chance to get out of a losing situation. From what I see ur making this harder on urself than anything. Agian I never would of walked away cause I feel or get third party information of any kind. It would make me more cautious yes but I would keep moving forward until I was certain that whatever evidence u may have considers with the mood of the talks. Meaning say for example we gave ur coalition white peace but then came back with terms that will make people quit from TS then ya u would have the terms to say,hey this is wrong we dont accept. But what u have is logs from a month before ur offer of surrender was made. The views of October may habe changed a month later but now u will or may not know.
The "third party" was a member of your coalition leadership which actually makes him a first party as he was directly involved.
It is not "may or may not" as they directly say they don't want the war to end.
We know their views did not change after October because we have logs in November which is when this thread was created showing they were still trying to stall peace. And again, while they were doing this in private they were publicly blaming us for peace not progressing.
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39 minutes ago, brucemna said:
Something tells me though part of the conditions to start agian maybe to admit that this open forum stuff dumping and so forth may be the wrong avenue as well u may face separation in parts of coalition in talks and that publicly ... maybe offer in private that condition.
The logs were necessary because your coalition's leadership was publicly blaming us for no progress being made in peace talks while in private were strategizing on how to drag out the peace process for as long as possible to make as many people quit out of boredom on our side as they could. It's not acceptable to gaslight somebody and expect them to just sit back and take the abuse. The blame here is on your leadership for developing a strategy specifically designed to pressure people out of the game. It's not on us for to standing up to people telling intentional lies. This war has been going on for like 7 months, there is no reason for anybody to believe that your coalition leadership was going to change their tactics when they were still lying about what they were doing. Keep in mind that during the period that you are saying we should have still been trying to negotiate they were still trying to think of ways to drag the war out. The only option we had left when shown that your leadership was trying to delay talks to get everybody to quit was at least show what they were saying isn't true.
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19 minutes ago, brucemna said:
Okay I cam understand ur scepticism on the intent. In all honesty how bout u post logs from ur coalition channels and I bet we will see similar kinds of intents as well. We all know that in private we all say things such as let's ruin them til they .... well u get the point I think we all have some intelligence in us. And sure maybe from 3 or so years ago before NPO time here when we were vanguard i can relate to maybe what 3 years means. We all know history is never forgotten and given a chance we all may say vindictive things to air out r resentments. With that in mind we also know that when it comes down to it we all settle down during talks and move on with our peace and heck sometimes we make knew friends. Regardless of anything as the surrending coalition I think the processes given to talk peace or not out of the norm and in many cases talks happen with segregation in certain instances. Log dumping or threads like this only make the process of peace longer and create longer or more distasteful resentment to reach the peace terms.
No coalition has ever held people at war for 7 months and expressed excitement over people quitting before. I'm not sure what you would expect to see in our coalition channel since we aren't in a position to do what your side has been doing and when we were in that position in past wars we didn't do it
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2 minutes ago, Prefonteen said:
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This took less time than expected.
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3 minutes ago, Roquentin said:
We would have been more amiable if things were different. There's nothing inherently contradictory in there.
You can only even come close to pinning anything on us as of the surrender topics. Rest is all you(collectively).
There's nothing else to say.
It is probably better for you not to say anything when you know logs will probably come out later contradicting it heh
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2 minutes ago, SleepingNinja said:They had to find a way to distract us that George just threw a ton of OOC info out to the public and Col A jumped all over it happily. So using the GOONs mercy boards was the perfect move to distract us from their incredibly low moral integrity. I mean you'd think if Col A really cared they'd have made a separate topic to call you all out on in the first place, which they likely already knew about.
It's possible for two people to be in the wrong you know? Gorge should not have posted that and he has since apologized, admitted he was wrong, and removed it. You however are continuing to look for excuses to minimize this mercy board crap. The fact that somebody else did something wrong does not excuse what GOONS is doing is wrong.
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Is that you Keshav?