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Emperor Adam

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  1. 2 hours ago, Hodor said:

    Thanks for the write up WANA, I think this touches on some interesting points. I think for one, in the post NPO era there's been a conscious effort to reduce the toxicity and excess in IC RP. This has been more or less adapted by all alliances, but something critical happened to t$ that didn't allow for it to make the shift as well. I wonder if the tension and borderline animosity surrounding people labeling t$ a hegemony in the period after NPOLT isolated you all and has been informing your mindset since. At that time, I was taken aback at how vociferous t$ was, but maybe this is chalked up to your isolation? or people like me misread it because we still had a bad taste in our mouths from your actions and silence in the first half of NPOLT?

    Regardless, the more I think about it, the more I think I've always taken an issue with the way t$ is playing the politics of outrage right now, but it was the norm in the game for so long that it would have been useless to rage against it. Now, t$ alone is still playing that old game and it's much more stark of a contrast to the game the rest of the world is playing. It's always my belief that IC outrage shouldn't be able to be confused with OOC outrage and that a healthy separation should exist between the two and in this style of play the line is very thin.

    Speaking purely for the timeframe I was gov for t$, a lot of it stemmed from the immediate hegemon claims by certain parties and lead us to feel like we *had* to be defensive.

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  2. 31 minutes ago, hidude45454 said:

    AFAIK you still do work in tS (or at least advise), so saying you're retired isn't 100% accurate imo; but regardless I think it'd be nice to hope that the opinions of you three still hold weight in tS

    This is dumb in that advisory roles are retirement unless you're like Abbas or Keegoz and can't keep your hands off the wheels 😜

     

    That said, my opinion as I've stated in RON is that there wouldn't be a war between any of us 3 regardless within the next 3 months unless something major happened, which considering Sphinx is out of gov and can't leak anymore, I doubt. Instead of whining that the NAP is in place, why don't you go tell Oasis/Mystery to do something? TKR, Rose, and t$ can't do all the entertaining around here.

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  3. 34 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

    Make up your mind Adam,  You are saying that you want people to be not nice to each other, yet in the paragraph above you accuse me of talking shit and that is why we should be hit.  You can't have it both ways, one of the over arching messages of this war from tS (including from you) is SRD should shut the hell up.  I do agree that having someone to hate makes the game more interesting and gives you something to work towards.

    They aren't contrary points. I actually enjoy the shit you talk because it adds to the political drama. Doesn't mean you can't get hit over it.

     

    34 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

    Yes this is bad for you if you want to fight us, but I dont see you crying about your upper tier advantage over Mystery, or Oasis.   I see this as you are upset that aren't the biggest and strongest (which historically you have always positioned yourselves to be) and you are putting out a narrative to help put you back in that position. Which is fine, its a game, and the point is to win, and using FA to try to gaslight us into getting smaller or rallying others against us, is another way to help strengthen yourselves in the long run.

    Glad to see your responses are getting better. This is a fair argument and I see where you're coming from, but your gov is even agreeing. Your members are. You're the only one I've talked to besides listening to Hodor thus far that claims that GG isn't a whale hegemon. And if that's what you want to be, that's fine, but you can't act surprised when people want to throw hands over it, especially when, as I mentioned, it takes outnumbering you by a good margin to be able to drag you within a reasonable timeframe for short wars. You do still preach those, don't you? 

    As I've mentioned to TKR, there's honestly a big chance this war would've been avoided were it not for the debut war on Rose. An ex-ally who'd hidden things from t$ the last month or so of our treaty signing our biggest rival and immediately rolling out on the only other aa in the game that you claim can 1v1 GG set off every alarm in the building. Once the counter-militarizing was starting, it was hard to consider that the backdown was possible. I will say that I'm speaking for myself as I think Wana wanted to talk to some extent but the timing was rough. I think after the debut this war was inevitable. I think after this war there can be some massive shakeups on all sides to prevent the repetition of this. 

    14 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

    That political stagnation issue you are complaining about is a monster of your own creation, your insistence on focusing on G/G, you trying to get a 6 month nap to protect yourselves after Quack war, that is what tS has been pushing.  You want your politics to be more interesting then go do it yourselves, we have, it's been fun.

    The 6 month NAP has been explained in detail both by t$ and TKR. I won't get into your treaties because as soon as they leave you either forget them or insult them for leaving, which is a beast in itself.

    1 hour ago, zigbigadorlou said:

    Do I have poor reading comprehension, or are these points contrary? I've shouted that FA belongs in public channels many times... Keegoz got annoyed enough to leave our bloc! But yeah get Adam back in the seat, and get those filthy DMs out of politics.  

    WANA and I have different admin styles, yes. Differing opinions is a part of the game. (Which is why I still yell in public, suck it WANA)

    2 hours ago, Benfro said:

    I learn from everyone I interact with, and one of @Sweeeeet Ronny D's biggest pet peeves is the "hello" DM instead of cutting to the point, especially when both parties are not online at the same time and it is an important matter.

    Based SRD. Hello dms are bad 👎 

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  4. 4 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

    I'd remind you that TJest is usually a T$-centric venture.

    Wrong. Tjest historically borrows members from across the game. Parti runs it, yes, but calling it a t$ centric venture instead of a "Partisan's bored and wants to start shit" is a bit disingenuous. 

    4 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

    For all intents and purposes, we had an informal notice weeks back.

    Clearly not for "all intents" given I asked if there was any need for it given the multiple weeks notice before, and Ben said yes. In retrospect, probably using that as an excuse to finalize war shit while warding off potential preempts.

    4 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

    Well, our consistent stance since KF (and for the entirety of my tenure in FA) has been for transparency and against secret ties.

    Transparency is out the door when you're actively pulling the wool over the eyes of your ally, breakup incoming or not.

    4 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

    We disagreed with their FA style of sneaking around and failing to publicly acknowledge their ties for the PR cover.  The goal was ~2 weeks and a recognition that folks should value transparency.  We didn't expect Rose not to be militarized nor for the shenanigans with Oasis and half of MI (nor their failure to fully militarize either).

    Then that's not only ridiculously stupid FA on your part, it's a complete failure to use common sense. Makes it worse that I directly told you any hit on Rose with that CB would result in Oasis/Swamp (or MysInc, as the rename branded them) joining in. Y'all are lucky they didn't plan better.

    4 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

     You took my statements out-of-context, and then tried to show them as some gotchas of not being consistent despite a little bit of nuance perfectly explaining my positions

    You are extremely inconsistent. You can pretend otherwise all you wish, we know the tune you're singing now is much different than it was when you were with us. 

  5. 45 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

    I'll just briefly touch on those.  First, the ghosts from OB and Grumpy.  Let me be clear.  We in no way would ever conspire against our own allies.  I'll even add that OB was then the major party who responded to KT despite their members ghosting in KT.  This isn't a reason nor is it an indication of anything.  

    I think the reasoning behind WANA mentioning the ghosts was lost in translation a bit, so I'll make it clear as it's own point. It wasn't "OMG LOOK HW IS GHOST HITTING US???" it was "Oh look, Grumpy members who constantly go raid and then go back to Grumpy the second they get bored with 0 consequence are at it again". 

     

    48 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

    Second, the statement made by SRD.  I just did a brief search in our own embassy, RON, and some other public places.  Some of the refrains associated with T$ gov (not just eumir) and Grumpy is bad,  threat, needs to take damage (you get the point).  SRD admitted that T$ was a potential target, but that TKR and its other allies in HW rejected that.  Even if we forget SRD's IC character, you can't really claim a highground here.  

    Grumpy is a threat and needs to take damage. Look how effective it is! Ronny can barely string words together as he watches his alliance finally take some damage early in a war. Grumpy is objectively bad for the meta. There's a few others that are too, but Grumpy is easily the number one issue currently. We discussed this in the embassy. t$ has been steadfast on this point at least since I joined, and even longer than that from what I've heard. SRD actively flaunted Grumpy's inability to be hurt/lose/etc and straight up said t$ was a target that had been floated but that the only reason we weren't hit is because Quack had just split. Don't pretend TKR wouldn't have taken that as a threat if you'd been in our situation. We both know you would have. 

     

    53 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

    timeline stuff

    As far as I'm aware this is accurate - though my gov is free to correct you if it isn't. 

    55 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

    Every step of the way we were openly communicating our intent, and it takes some serious 4-D upon 4-D chess to conceive a way where we were not being transparent about our intent.  The likely scenario is that you saw the sunk cost of militarization, you wanted to get your hit in to take out a perceived threat, and you had Rose who could be mobilized off of their grudge.  It's a brazen and political move, but we can't really begin to break it down until we get on the same page.  

    Here's the issue, Coops. HW and BW didn't start off on a good foot. T$ found out you were making war plans behind our back during a war while we were still allies and had an information clause and before we'd even given an official notice. It was during our notice that we realized you weren't prepping for rebuild, while t$ was in the process of starting. I was getting a few messages from parties I won't mention here asking what was going on, and I had 0 clue despite still being allied to you at the time. This is after I'd probed Adri/Ben a few times on your post-quack plans and was met with silence despite giving you a heads up on what our plans were. Once the treaty dropped, you debuted your new allies in an offensive war against the only other sphere that you, SRD, and others claimed could "definitely fight GG guys" with the entirety of TKR's half of Quack, plus BK and all of HM. Let's break that down a bit and restate a few things. You:

    -Hit Rose with an overwhelming force while allying a group you knew we took issue with for various reasons, making essentially a new Quack.

    -Made these plans behind our backs despite the information clause in our treaty, knowing we'd be less than thrilled about the idea, and refused to tell us anything about your plans.

    -During the war, twisted my words more than a few times and used my broad number statements while ignoring the statements I made about tiering.

     

    Forgive us if we're less likely to trust you and consider you an honest party.

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  6. 43 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

    As for the Quack war, tS hit us, which was a huge dog pile in their favor, until Rose and Oasis came in to help.

    Yes, we dogpiled you for the entire... 2 minutes? Before Rose counter-blitzed. We had info that they were joining in. This has already been gone over. 

     

    I won't bother responding to the rest of it because frankly it's a ramble bordering on coping. Glad to see GoB's finally taking damage that actually matters, and that it's knocked you so out of norms that you're unable to respond nearly as well as you usually do.

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  7. 20 minutes ago, zigbigadorlou said:

    Now the real question is why you felt it necessary to rope Rose in for this.

    This is a continued counter-narrative y'all keep pushing. Since other attempts to respond have clearly been ignored, let me list it as simply as I can:

    1. We had a reason to hit you.

    2. Rose had a reason to hit you.

    3. It's no secret and even certain ones of your allies agree: Either of us hitting you alone would be utter whale suicide because after 2-3 rounds our 35+ would be dead and downdecs would start. Both of us together stand a decent chance because of the number advantage. 

     

    It's simple. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, especially when said enemy is borderline untouchable without them.

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  8. 42 minutes ago, WarriorSoul said:

    honest to god are we gonna have to deal with eumir's tantrums this entire war? it's so pathetic

    Bold of TKR to call Eumir out for "tantrums" (which tbh, in itself makes you look dumb) when their prevailing narrative has been whining about our cb and how its a dogpile. Then, when WANA gives you what you want, have two TKR reps completely ignore the post y'all have been begging for only for one to make a comment on something you've already dug into the ground while ignoring all the additional context, and for you to whine more about a member that's getting on your nerves/hurting your feelings.

     

    Bricks in glass houses, friend. I'd do yourselves a favor and let Adri or Cooper chime in, at least they do your FA some justice.

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