Kosst_Amojan
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1 minute ago, Akuryo said:Alternatively, since their goal is growth in many cases such as sphinx, pull out, build a bunch of cities at once, wait a month or two saving your cash until prices go down, and then pay less while having grown more than others, and still have money leftover towards the next city.
It literally makes more sense to do that because it is cheaper, and because this is a shitty band aid fix.
It's virtually impossible for any investor to pull out all of their money at a moment's notice. No bank would return you 5 billion or 10 billion of your money just because you ask for it. It also doesn't make financial sense to pull out your money and lose whatever deals you currently have in order to buy 1 or 2 cities before this change happens knowing that you would have to pay the resources retroactively anyway. Thirdly, buying a whale city of 2b+ makes no financial sense since the ROI for it is insignificant, so why would whales hurry up to pull out their money of the banking system in order to make a fraction of the return they would otherwise make?
This raw resource usage increment as a band aid is not the end of the world. It's I believe an attempt to fix the last code change to resource production that caused this problem to begin with. I also think the prices of resources going down is not a problem but a solution. If what the community wants is more wars, cheaper resources will make that happen. Where is it written that resources ought to be expensive? Why can't they be affordable so we can do what this game was supposed to be: 50% politics and 50% wars. Currently it's like 90% politics 9% economics and 1% war.
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On 5/2/2019 at 12:27 PM, Alex said:
I agree with Prefontaine, the player run "banking" system doesn't need to exist, and it will either adapt with the game or it will fail. This isn't Wall Street, there is no "too big to fail" and I am not going to let development be held hostage over whatever financial system a few players have rigged in the game.
If we make this update and what you say is true @Akuryo - the banks collapse and smaller nations aren't able to get funds easily - that's like the easiest thing in the world to fix. It's trivial to tweak the game so that smaller nations generate more cash just by nature of being small. I'm already considering doing things like increasing the login bonus and we're looking at projects that will reduce the costs of new cities. So I'm not worried about that scenario at all.
I take personal offense that a game administrator chosed this specific set of words to refer to a community based program.
I would like you to explain how can development be held hostage over some financial system and how have we rigged the system?
I also would like to point out I approached you ages ago about implementing a coded banking system into the game but despite you feeling it was a good idea, you didn't go through with it. If it's rigged, then why don't you code a bank that is better? You have an unlimited cash machine, offer loans to nations and finish us off. But please, refrain from using this specific set of words again.
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On 4/29/2019 at 10:00 PM, BOYCE THE GREAT said:
Well, this just basically stops the game for anyone 30+ and to some extent 25+, for example Seb would have well over a billion $ invested in retroactive payments before even buying a city, that is an extreme example but still, i hate the idea of something like this being retroactive but if it isn't retroactive then it would be unfair to new players, this just simply isn't the solution.
ok. I will use your post Boyce and your mention of me to put my five cents.
Does anyone that has made it to 35 cities have money problems? Let's say those who need to pay a 1b retroactive to buy another city. How is that more complicated than for example, saving 3 billion to buy another city? or 2 billion in the case of city 34 or 35. All you need to do is save another billion. Save 2 billion if Alex's change does work and raw demand and price goes up. So for those whales that are currently building one more city every 2 or 3 months it will take 5 for the next city instead? After that it'll go back to normal.
I also don't understand how this would hurt the private banking system. If anything people will try to come to the banks to take massive loans in order to buy resources and speculate with the price?
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On 4/28/2019 at 10:55 AM, Malinok said:
Looking at my wars page: I have numerical advantage?
Also what are spies I'm not very familiar with this unit.
I am getting old, maybe I'm actually on Alpha's side and didn't know it. I better go recheck what alliance I'm in.
lol my friend. Take that beating and come back oh Rabid Dog of mine.
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2 minutes ago, James II said:
SA/Alpha left after their war with TEst. They didn't rebuild or anything. They're coming back in the same state, as you cannot rebuild/buy military in VM. It's akin to hitting an alliance right after they get out of getting hit down. It's like the guy choking a kitten and saying he fought off a mountain lion. Basically, Oblivion is a joke.
Bud. You can't expect them to understand a perfectly logical argument anymore than you can train a dog to count to 10.
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This is weak Ockey tsk tsk. You could have given them a month to get ready at least. Fighting them now is like kicking a wounded animal. I don't approve -_-
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say good bye to your planes you dirty insurgent. Learn your place under my boot!
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who is vanguard again?
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On 12/24/2018 at 5:17 PM, FilipS said:
how dare you keep vexz in the basement?
It has to be done
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I think all war dodgers should die. despite the side they are in.
that includes desserters
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23 minutes ago, Abbas Mehdi said:
What was the counter offer made and the parameters for your description of war dodgers?
Abbas is sad nobody replied to his question
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I spent 15 days getting rolled and sat on, that was not fun
@memph @vanek
you two...
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On 8/10/2018 at 8:17 PM, Bezzers said:
Late to the party as usual seb
dafuk is this. AIM is fricking dead you excelent noob
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On 7/9/2018 at 11:18 PM, ⚡ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™??? said:
This is why alliance taxes are useless and growing with bank debt is the only way to grow.
exactly
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9 hours ago, James II said:
I'm sure you are having fun, but it's poor form to brag about being 'gud' when it's Guardian, tC, HS, and t$ vs a 14 man micro. That's not being 'good' and it makes mechanical sense that they can't fight back.
what he said
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trolls all of you
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5 hours ago, Prefontaine said:
>Not needing to defend yourself
>Defending yourself
Either way, I was joking. Apologies if you took it to heart.
I didn't take it at heart but you put me on the spot so an answer to your post was required.
good one if it was just a joke tho ✌️
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9 hours ago, Prefontaine said:
So a bank named emerald bank, had connections with Seb, named emerald bank as a nation, vanished. That and Seb recently purchased up to city 38 in rapid succession.
Yes, clearly AIM has the money. Makes complete sense.
you clearly don't know me Prefontaine.
I don't need to even defend myself with such accusation. My old investors, my old clients, even the current investors from Emerald Bank that were severely damaged by Dillon's stunt know who I am and can speak of my integrity. Ask my enemies even if I would be capable of taking something that isn't mine.
If you are going to accuse, do it with more facts buddy. Have a good day
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That's what's missing, a comic from Ripper!!!
@Ripper you are summoned
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Maia's Magic Daddy-Yesterday at 7:17 PM
Hello Orbis. We are gathered here today in celebration of our Alliance, Durmstrang, a place where most of us found the home we had been seeking in years of wondering throughout all corners of Orbis. I am very happy with what we have achieved while we existed, we have made great friends inside and outside this walls; we have gained strong allies that will be forever in our thoughts.As everything in life, Durmstrang also had a finite time in the world, it was fun while it lasted and we don’t regret one minute of it. But just as all things, DS has come to its end.With unmeasurable pride to all we have built, I say good bye to this baby of mine. I stand tall when closing the doors of this fine castle behind me after all inhabitants have vacated the premises. Thank you to all the people that have come through our doors, you made my dream come true and for that I will be eternally grateful. Thank you to all our allies that time after time proved to be made of iron and defended our interests as their own, you also made this dream possible. Thank you for our rivals in declared wars or otherwise who valiantly fought us both in Politics and Wars, without you our existence wouldn’t have had purpose.As part of our farewell Durmstrang hosted a fine Wizarding Ball for our members and special guests. You can see the preparations and the ball itself below thanks to the masterful skills of our camerawoman Maia “hit-girl”.Part three is yet to come.-
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please move to Orbis Central is this is not the place to post it?
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what this morning started as a harmless joke, #6900 impersonated me on Discord and started trolling people.
I came later that day and we had a silly exchange and I considered him funny and harmless. However, he took it a step further and has been using my name to promise payments to micros to attack other micros under the excuse that they defaulted on me.
Aparently my doppleganger doesn't know I no longer do loans, so nobody can default on me anymore.
this was funny at first but the joke is over
the real me is @Seb#7110 and the fake guy is @Seb#6900.
please make sure you check who is talking to you if the request is shady.
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this is fun, its playing a whole new game.
its not bad, its just different and we will obviously adapt to it.
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1 hour ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:
Can we make this mafia style if they cant pay back their loans, which means that the lender can destroy a set amount of infra/land/improvements every week they don't get paid back, and then exponentially increase the interest on top of it?
lol
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Thank you for clarifying that bit.
From my perspective, this changes will affect growth a little bit causing nations in the 20/30 range to grow up in a slower manner (like 20% slower) nations with 30+ nations won't find it very hard to compensate for that retroactive fee in raws and since income at that stage is pretty sustantial. The 30/40 city range is about as high as anyone will grow in the next couple years, so we might even see them freeze there and delay that payment for quite a long while.
As for disrupting the banking business, this can be an opportunity rather than an impediment. Banking was born because of the high priced cities and the huge excess of cash with nowhere viable to put it in. An increase in resource demand can lead to more players wanting to get into this black market that has developed lately where you can buy and sell big bulks of resources. Maybe a new generation of players can come forth and make their own raw trading depot and turn an otherwise ordinary change (no offense intended Alex) into another tool for money making and community building
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