[A Call to Arms]

3 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

Fairly sure you shot down other people who approached you.

 

Fairly sure you're an inflexible toad who puts his 3-10 year old grudges against the health of an entire game. 

[A Call to Arms]

2 minutes ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:

GOONS isn't NPO, I don't need to be pragmatic. 

The first half of your sentence implies you do need to be pragmatic if you're serious about not being NPO (or a vassal).

[A Call to Arms]

2 minutes ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:

TKR's signing of certain alliances make them Non-Grata to GOONS. 

That's not very pragmatic of you. 

[A Call to Arms]

7 minutes ago, Jazz R Oppenheimer said:

Because it involves publicly being shown up since I have much less restraint than the other members of my coalition? Or less aversion to appearing hostile (even though I'm being factual?)

Pragmatically speaking, I meant it's because it's a waste of both our time and your efforts.

[Friendly Unity Cooperation of Knightly Immortals Treaty]

1 hour ago, namukara said:

Are we the new EMC or the new IQ then?

We are bastards.

[A Call to Arms]

It seems pointless to have this argument with Jazz. 

[[Treaty]Belle of the ball accords]

Very glad to see this! 

I look forward to seeing what we're able to accomplish together!

[Post here about how much you enjoy the current war/state of events]

The resolve and commitment of my alliance mates reminding me why I joined the Syndicate to begin with. Extend that out and I'm just pretty damn well impressed by our allies and friends throughout the war as well.

And to think we didn't even have to threaten them to keep them committed to the fight too!

[An announcement from Pantheon]

I hate the circumstances.

Speaking for the people that didn't know about the recently revealed information, thanks for entering the war to support us and congrats on peace. 

[Boting talk]

Yeah, I don't think many of us are arguing that bots in and of themselves are wrong or that things shouldn't be made easier for players.

I do think it's important to make the distinction that bots which automate manual or analog input (ie: Leo being able to "send out" aid immediately without even logging into his nation) crosses a pretty distinct line. I think recruitment bots would be the only reasonable exception to this, and that's because the only significant analog input you're automating is hitting the "send" button in the messaging system and they're beyond established at this point.

A simple aid request / approval function for banks would be really nice, actually. And anything that makes the game more mobile friendly is great too.

I saw some mention of automating aid send outs for the 100/100 alliances, which is a fine way to play but I wouldn't say it's a fundamentally necessary component of the game. If that's the way you want to play and you're organized enough and your membership is active enough you could easily coordinate requests in such a way that your econ team would just have to log on once a day or so and accept member requests to achieve the same result via a simple aid request / approval system.  

Adding features like that should be part and parcel to the -actual development- of a healthy game (hey Alex!). 

[Dial Up War: Propaganda]

4 hours ago, Captain Splendid said:

That Venn diagram implies that creating problems and accepting responsibility are mutually exclusive for everyone.

This post assumes the venn diagram is an assessment of everyone, where it's actually an assessment of one individual's behavior. 

[Boting talk]

15 hours ago, Memph said:

I think any bots that perform in-game actions should be against the rules, whether that's moving banks, trading, sending out recruitment messages, declaring wars, attacking, etc. Notification bots are ok I suppose.

 

14 hours ago, Prefonteen said:

Any bot that automates in-game actions (such as war declarations, bank transfers, baseball etc.) should be prohibited. Any script that accumulates and/or parses data from the game should be fine. A hard line on this is probably necessary to prevent rules being bent.

I'm basically in agreement with these posts. 

Particularly in regard to transactions (bank/ trade) and exchanges (war/baseball) that require analog participation and rely on player activity.

The only thing that I'd leave the door open for is recruitment / mass messaging but even then something like that could be exploited and if an ingame alternative is provided (as mentioned) it would be unnecessary. 

[Unacceptable Behavior]

I promise, I'm done with that schtick now. ?

[[agreement] Interstellar - Opus Dei]

This is one of those issues where I'm inclined to be critical like everyone else, but this is a young and inexperienced alliance and the circumstances aren't exactly ordinary. 

I hope Interstellar & Co. learn a few good lessons from this, if nothing else. 

And congrats, peace is difficult to find these days. 

[Unacceptable Behavior]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

I actively and openly admit that I offer nothing of value to the conversation. 

Everyone would be wise to ignore me.

 

[Unacceptable Behavior]

25 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

My posts are so bad that I have to immediately follow up with a disclaimer that I'm not a representative of my alliance. Every. Single. Time.

 

[Dial Up War: Propaganda]

[[agreement] Interstellar - Opus Dei]

1 hour ago, Roquentin said:

Gov was hostile. Gov does various hostile maneuveurs that directly and indirectly harm us.  You had plenty of chances to work it out with us. You didn't and you frustrated any attempts at mediation.

Members were hostile.

No hate? 

lol

"My lying, shady and underhanded attempts at manipulating your government failed and I got mad about it." -Roq 2020

[[ROH] The Return of the Green Enforcement Agency]

Welcome to the enlightenment and congratulations!

[Syndicate-North Point RoH]

6 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

Now that the transparent purpose of this RoH is evident to all. Hopefully the situation is dealt with so as not to set dangerous precedents.

We wouldn't want to set dangerous precedents now, would we? 

[Did the war end yet?]

And to think we were all so close to negotiating peace before Kastor posted this.

[A little message from AK]

2 hours ago, Captain Splendid said:

Does a bomb go off or something if you don't use that word at least once per post?

Maybe stop questioning it and thank this man for his service?

[Syndicate-North Point RoH]

2 hours ago, Windseeker said:

I'll tell you what, if you manage to make it past the sea of Ayyylien bottomfeeders to fill my def slot, I'll humor this RoH.

Just be sure to use an impractical amount of ships when you do. Hell, build tanks while you're at it and nuke my 1k infra on raid mode to be on the safe side.

I can't believe you'd just hand us these high quality tactics.  Forwarding to Milcom immediately. 

[Question for all Coalition leadership.]

2 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said:

The problem is simply that there's no point for them to bother playing if they're purely going to spend their energies and efforts to make everyone's experience as bad as possible, their own certainly included.

The problem is that this has been a self-admitted IQ strategy from (pretty much) the get-go (once they understood they wouldn't topple things immediately).

GOONS is the budding algae on the surface of the real problem: neo-IQ players are (and have been) attempting to kill off the "livestock" by poisoning the water. 

[Question for all Coalition leadership.]

22 hours ago, Shadowthrone said:

I do not believe there is a via medium where we can change this meta between the respective players easily. If this war has showed anything it is the toxic underbelly that has come out wide open. How do you change the meta when the only IC riposte to Roquentin or myself is "you're paranoid." Its just the actions taken so far seem to follow a pattern, one we've been watching over the years and for everything we've done to help change the meta or even attempt to reach out half way to your side of the pond, all we got is "it's not good enough" or if we did take independent action the line is "paranoia." 

 

At the end of the day the simplest way to change this is if your side stopped attempting to connect our actions here with an outside world and try to attribute that to killing this game as if its some NPO mantra. But that's not going to go. Your coalition and our coalition have drawn the lines in the sand. Where really is a way out. Your member base has made it clear that NPO bad man, so where exactly is the path forward? 

tl;dr "I, choosing to ignore all of the (in-game) evidence, don't understand how I (or anyone [Roq] so closely associated with myself) should be held culpable for responsibility of the direct result of my (and/or our) actions leading up to current events.

Ignoring all evidence opposed to the fact that we acted in good faith, WE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH (repeat ad nauseam).

(*)Engage: Gaslight: It's obviously your (your = not us) fault that we (we = not you) are acting the way that we (we = not us unless it suits our narrative) are reacting. 

---Attempt Failed--- NPO: Invoke: Other Game (that everyone else here was either not part of or actively attempts to avoid): stop bringing this back! Loop back to (*)