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On 5/27/2021 at 2:21 AM, Dr Rush said:
By far the most common mistake new players make is building farms. And while I usually think allowing players to do dumb is a good thing, a slightly gentler approach should be used for new players. And in particular the games tutorial should not be actively directing new players into doing dumb things. So two things need to happen.
1. The objective to build a farm should instead be made into an objective to buy food and have explanation of why farms are bad.
2. Attempting to build a farm below 1.5k land should require confirmation that they understand it is a terrible idea.I like suggestion 1. I'm firmly of the opinion that admin/mod intervention should be minimized as much as possible, so a soft redirection like that is really cool and I think it would be effective.
I don't like suggestion 2 because I don't think there's a strong enough precedent for using confirmations like that. I think confirmations like that only exist for deleting projects/cities, VM'ing, or deleting one's nation. Those things are in a whole other ballpark from building farms inefficiently.
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36 minutes ago, Who Me said:
The only thing you are doing is forcing the other blocs to blob together in order to survive and putting us right back to a bipolar world. So good job I guess.
You guys immediately formed a new sphere. You guys immediately declared a war for, apparently, no reason (as it stands now). Neither of these things had to happen.
The Hollywood member cries out in pain as he strikes you.
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8 hours ago, Insert Name Here said:
Ah, I miss the days where alliance govs gagged clueless members so their PR wouldn't be harmed. But for that I guess you need a competent alliance. Fun.
No, please. This thread has been one of the most entertaining ones in a while.
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The past 24 hours have been very exciting!. With Hollywood forming, hitting Rose, Oasis hitting back, and now also Mystery coming in, there is a lot to go over! I am also hearing reports of some massive fraud and corrupting going on in the business world. I will be giving my schizo takes on the war and Abigor/Eligos will be coming on a guest to talk about the business world shenanigans
The show will be tomorrow (May 25th) at 9 PM EST over in Thalmoria.
Running since December 2019, Thalmor Radio is P&W's oldest running radio show. Each Friday night at 9 PM EST from the Thalmoria Discord server, the show features me, Zig, and Shifty talking about what's on our minds, game news, and real life happenings.
Server invite: https://discord.gg/rcnJYAv
Recording archive: Thalmor Radio - YouTube
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4 hours ago, Lossi said:
What I get out of this thread and the various servers talking about it is.
TKR exists
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HegemonyAny facts or reality to the matter be damned.
There has been nothing but universal condemnation and disapproval over this new FA move. Your own former allies in Syndisphere are dunking on your leaders in public over it.
If you guys don't want to take into account other people's perspectives, then fine. Y'all gotta do what you think is best for your members and allies. But, you share this game with a lot of other people. Coming out of one megasphere into a second one and then hitting another bloc because 'well it's revenge but not really' has left a bad taste in just about everyone's mouth. There's a lot more nuance to it than just 'TKR man bad' and you do yourselves a disservice to dismiss it so simply.
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1 minute ago, Nick McScott said:would you rather just have TKR never join a bloc ever, since any bloc they join is going to become a megabloc?
TKR and friends are perfectly capable of standing on their own. Give them 6 months to grow and incorporate protectorates and splinters and they could get even larger.
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Seems cringe to split with t$ to then just turned around and form another megabloc with Hedge.
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A big factor to making a successful alliance is to have a community. I believe Camelot is a micro success story. They were a nobody micro but have grown into a fairly respectable alliance. Most micros fail to do this, though, and they fall apart. Community is why you have small alliances with only a handful of people stay together and active even though they're relatively poor and isolated.
Community is also why 'bloated micros' alliances like Polaris and Fark stick around. They would probably have disappeared long ago if they weren't so old. Although, at that point 'micro' is just being used as a slur.
A strong community can survive anything. NPO only left because they chose too.
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Congrats on peace! It would've been easy to let the difference in size/experience scare you guys into inaction, but y'all hit your aggressors on the chin and projected some power despite being a new bloc of smaller alliances/players. Respect! Hope y'all got some good experience out of this.
Not sure why some people want to go so hard against a small bloc, though. Probably insecure about something!
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36 minutes ago, TitanJazza said:
Would watch if it wasn't at like 3 am for me :,)
As Maia said above you, these are recorded. The link to the YouTube channel that hosts the (fairly extensive) archive of the show can be found in the OP.
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I am hosting a short bonus episode tonight at 10 PM EST over in Thalmoria. I will be talking about Swamp breaking up and the war thus far. I have no guests planned but some people will probably be unmuted to give their takes on things.
Regular show at 9 PM EST Friday will still happen.
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Thalmor Radio is P&W's oldest-running radio show. Hosted by myself and Zig, we talk about what's on our minds, game news, and real life happenings every Friday night at 9 PM EST. We are sometimes funny and we cannot confirm or deny our affiliation with federal law enforcement.
Discord invite: https://discord.gg/rcnJYAv
Recordings archive: Thalmor Radio - YouTube
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10 hours ago, HeroofTime55 said:
Wait, did Alex step in and reverse this?
Yeah, I'm curious about this too.
If he did step in, what was the justification?
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3 hours ago, Kevanovia said:
Wouldn’t it just be easier to remove TLE from Swamp?
I like how Swamp was super happy to kick out TI and TFP (who held the whole thing together), but are perfectly happy to let TLE kill the bloc.
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HannaH was the only one smart enough to see the risk in that chat and peaced out lol.
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Based and chaospilled.
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7 hours ago, King Arthur said:
“Is that Polaris?” Azazel asked in horror.
Truly, there is nothing more terrifying to behold.
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3 minutes ago, hidude45454 said:
100% this, TEst back in the day were basically whales lmfao but no one would really say that; personally I just called us killer whales to someone like Pantheon's true whaledom
We called ourselves orcas.
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Over 30 cities is whale, but I think mindset is a significant part of it.
I have 31 cities but I don't consider myself a whale. Meanwhile, the members of Alpha we thrashed recently are whales.
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53 minutes ago, WarriorSoul said:
There's nothing else to be gained there. You can say that this is KT's (or whomever's) way of enjoying the game, but it's just sadism lol.
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8:17 PM
The day had been pleasant, for a change. Work wasn't good, but it was better than usual. There were no particularly troublesome customers, and Jonathan had been unusually friendly. Maybe he was getting over whatever problem he had with you, and perhaps now you two could start to become friends for a change?
After work, you met up with your friends at that new pizza place. You had been looking forward to this for weeks. It wasn't often that the four of you could meet up, thanks to everyone's school, work, and family obligations. The food was good, and you though the girl at the counter was eyeballing you some.
So... the day was decent. It was a 6 out of 10, maybe 7 out of 10. The best way to top it off would be to enjoy some time on the internet. You change into more comfortable clothes, crack open a cold one (beer, soda, or water- your choice) and sit down at your computer. You enter your password and your computer fully whirs to life.
You go to watch your favorite Twitch streamer, but stop before you can finish typing out the words into Google. Instead, you hold down backspace, and instead search for Politics and War.
It's been a few days since you last logged in, and even longer since you were on Discord. Logging into the game, an interesting sight greets you.
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The words 'utter failure' borrow into your head. As the adrenaline kicked in, you did all you could to fight back against your attackers; of which there are three of the bastards. However, the numbers were against you, and all you succeeded in doing was putting yourself into an even worse position.
By the time you ran out of MAPs, the heaviness in your chest had fully set in. Your cities were being pummeled, two of your attackers had 'Air Superiority', and the third one had 'Ground Control'. You weren't fully sure what these terms meant, but you knew it was bad that they had those things and you didn't.
Finally, some mechanism in your brain triggered, and the initial shock and panic had subsided. Rather than thrash around like a trapped animal, you bend over slightly, put your hand on your chin, and start thinking. You asked yourself a simple question. "How am I going to get out of this mess?"
As you carefully scrolled your nation page for some hope - praying that all the numbers and statistics would hold some golden nugget of information - you find the answer. The answer, in fact, was so obvious that you were surprised you didn't think of it immediately beforehand.
Your would ask your alliance for help.
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8:42 PM
Logging into Discord, you find 12 pings awaiting you. Most of them are @everyone or @here spam from trolls, two of them are @everyone pings from government, and 1 was a member of government thanking you for your taxes.
Joining this alliance as a City 32 nation was a bit odd, but you've known the leader for a while as you've been Steam buddies with him for years (going back to your Counter-Strike days), and he promised you a voice in government if you agreed to 40/20 taxes (higher than the 20/10 the alliance runs for the rest). You felt good about helping the new, smaller players who joined the alliance, so you agreed. Of course, It didn't hurt to have some power too.
You navigate past the Discord channels to find the member chat... passing up some archives, the public chats (including a NSFW chat you've been meaning to check out), and a room for the bots. Upon finally finding the member chat, you type out your plea.
"hey im getting attacked. can i get some help??"
Unfortunately, your message is lost in the sea of the member chat. The member chat is full of similar such requests, but also of some despair. A member of the alliance that you don't recognize, ForkofApple, voices his displeasure.
"Guys I can't take this damage I think I'm gona quit."
Your mind races. The entire member chat is full of similar such messages; of the collective of the alliance requesting help or voicing great displeasure. The heaviness in your chest returns.
As the largest tax payer, you were promised by you leader some power in the community. You realize you have a duty to... try and do something to help. Clearly you should ask the 'Military Department' head for assistance.
You send him a message on Discord, but he is offline. A quick look through Discord reveals that he hasn't said anything on Discord in over a week, and hasn't even logged into the game for over 3 days. That's a dead end.
The chest heaviness is gone, but a general sense of dread fills the crevasses of your mind. You get another notification. You open it.
Dope Dealer of Dope Land ordered a ground attack upon your nation of New New Canada. The attack was an immense triumph. Dope Dealer forces lost 7,672 soldiers and 127 tanks, while your defenders lost 28,102 soldiers and 1,284 tanks. You used 260 tons of munitions and 232.40 tons of gasoline defending the attack. The attack destroyed 229.01 infrastructure in the city of Newer Quebeccz. Dope Dealer stole $2,496,880.98 in the attack and destroyed 0 improvements.
You swallow. Your drink from earlier is at room temperature, and is mostly untouched.
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After pacing around your home some, you get on your computer and are pleasantly surprised to see a Discord message from your leader.
Your leader, who you know simply as Disciple, sends you two short messages.
"Hey man hows its going"
"How much gas and ammo do you have?"
You respond, but then stop. You check on your resources, and then respond.
"im good except im getting screwed in my butt lol"
"4000 gas and 2100 ammnition"
Disciple doesn't respond to you for some time. You seen him try to coordinate a military response in the member chat, but his own messages are interrupted by people being uncooperative; claiming to either not want to fight, not having the cash/resource to fight, or simply in despair at how their military is mostly destroyed and the enemies are at max military.
You check the alliance page, and a few minutes of discovery later, you find out that almost all 32 members have had their defense slots filled.
Wait, 32? That's odd. You could've sworn it was 37 a few days ago.
You search where you can for several minutes, and find out that within the past hour, 2 members have went into vacation mode, and 3 others have left. A page refresh reveals now 31 members- a 6th member has been kicked by Disciple himself.
You exit out of the game and Discord. You need a break. This day was a 7 out of 10, now it's like a 3 out of 10.
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You log back into the game, only to discover 3 more notifications. The last of your tanks were airstriked, and the last of your planes were spies away. Well.. almost anyways. Only a few hundred tanks remain, and only about a hundred planes. Tens of thousands of soldiers remain, but even you know that isn't worth much.
You tried to watch some of your favorite shows to get your mind off of the game, but are unable to lay back and enjoy the media. An idea crosses your mind; why not ask our allies for help?
You log back into Discord, and message Disciple. Asking about your idea. Disciple responds:
"No silver knights and yorktown can't help. they've been hit too. we're just gonna have to fight as hard as we can and see where things are after round 1."
Round 1? What does that mean? Actually, forget it. 1 round of whatever hell this is is already to much. Maybe if your allies could do unto your attackers what they've done to you, maybe it would be okay. However, with your alliance by itself, what does it matter?
You check the alliance page. Now, 29 members. You don't care what happened to them.
Another notification. This time, a ground battle. There goes all your tanks and most of your soldiers.
You check on the members of your allies. Just like your alliance, most of their members have had most of their defense slots filled.
Several times during the past two and a half hours, you've had your hopes crushed. Your attacks failed. Your alliance can't help. The head of military affairs is practically inactive. Your allies can't help. Your military is gone, and your alliance has lost a lot of its members already.
Another notification. A spy op. An unknown nation has killed 22 of your spies in one go.
You swear. You decide that enough is enough. The situation is intolerable. You leave a short rant in the member chat full of profanity. You navigate to the 'Edit Nation' page, then to the Vacation Mode page. You enter '14' into the box. You enter your password (the same you use for all other accounts in your personal life). You check both boxes, and then you click the big blue bottom.
It's over.
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Like a limb severed to save the body in times gone by, you emotionally detach from your nation the best you can. Over the next few days, your nation is ravaged. All your resources and cash are looted. Your military is 0'ed, and your average infrastructure level in each city reaches levels that they haven't been in years. You gain close to a week in beige time, but end up on grey. Perhaps you would've interacted with your nation had you not been in VM, but that is not the case. You inability to interact with your nation drains your interest, and you stop logging in. Your Discord usage also ceases.
You log in once more after quite some time, only to see dozens and dozens of notifications. Your inactivity was rewarded by raiders pillaging what they could from the corpse of your nation- not unlike how scavenger birds eat up a dead deer once the coyotes have had their fill.
Disciple unfriends you on Steam. Perhaps it was the not-so-nice things you said in your rant before you VM'ed. Whatever the case, your ties to your alliance mainly cease. Besides, who needs to be a part of such a shitty alliance that gets itself into such a shitty war anyways? You deserved better. How dare Disciple get you into that kind of situation anyways? He did you a favor by unfriending you. How could he reward your years of internet friendship like that?
Your nation is beyond repair. To many holes in the ship. You think about starting over, but it would take years to get back to where you are now. And, just for what, for this to happen again?
You don't delete your nation, but you cease logging in completely. You block emails from Politics and War, and soon you forget about the game. Eventually, the game itself puts you in VM, and then deletes you itself after a long time passes.
Sometimes you think about the game, but you remember your feelings on that night- when the dumb bastards of some other alliance ganged up on you for no reason. When you were abandoned by your alliance, your leader, and your allies. You decide not to ever return- and you never do.
What a stupid game.
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On 4/9/2021 at 4:18 PM, Alex said:
ss23 helps out with server security and hosted, he's not a game development admin. Please don't ping him.
We already have time limits on the captchas, just not in certain places (like war declaration) that are otherwise highly susceptible to scripting. If there was a time limit on those, then people would certainly use auto war-declaration bots/scripts.
So us players with slower connections are just SoL then?
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3 hours ago, BigMorf said:
These are baseless accusations
Sounds like the words of a guilty conscious.
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4 minutes ago, MinesomeMC said:
shifty as one of my best friends you should now im too tall for that coffin.
How about this one?
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3 hours ago, Deborah Kobayashi said:Next global will just be KT in the middle of the battlefield vs all spheres.
At least it would be even.
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[War Glitch] Trick to do more battles with less MAPs
in Tech Support
Posted · Edited by Thalmor
I miscounted. I thought I did 10 when I actually did 9.
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=956024
I just did 9 ground battles in a row lol.
This was immediately after update today, so about 10 minutes ago. Only 1 ground battle took away MAPs. I believe I still had 9 by the final ground attack.
I'm on Microsoft Edge on a laptop with Windows 10. I kept pressing 'Attack Again'.