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    Automatic Embargo and set time for embargo.

    in Game Suggestions

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    Auto expiry is meh, I can think of many things that are better uses of dev time but it won't actually break anything.

    The rest is honestly shear laziness, like going into minecraft and thinking it should have diamond blocks in the ground instead of ore. And I also find the suggestion of even further limiting player/player interaction based on alliance level edicts to be ill advised.

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    [DoE+DoW] BABAI Did Nothing Wrong

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Dr Rush

    4 hours ago, Natonito said:

    We are pleased to hear of the declaration of the existence of a new beige bloc.

    You say that with such pride. But it only shows how little your lot knows about war. Which is apparently nothing.

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    Delete

    in Ban Appeals

    Posted

    So an admission of what you did wrong is a good place to start. Can you explain why the community and by extension staff don't like random DM advertising?

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    War Name Vote -GW16 Final 6

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    I like how I can't even see the poll result gg forum.

     

    On 1/23/2021 at 3:49 PM, zigbigadorlou said:

    What is with you people and polls on polls on polls? No! Leaky Faucet won the last poll fair and square. Stop trying to get people to conform to your idea of a good name. Leaky faucet is FINE, and you're just being picky and annoying.

     

    And stop making me vote, its annoying.

     

    (grumbles about it being called dial up war in a corner)

    There are (almost) always multiple voting rounds. A 1 vote difference is not sufficient to declare the winner, particularly when it's literally pick anything you like. If I really wanted to enforce my will I could for instance be much more aggressive in the pruning that occurs from the nomination thread. 

    On 1/24/2021 at 8:32 AM, Phoenyx said:

     

    I agree, I think that Leaky Faucet was the most neutral name. Now it seems that "Duck Hunt" is going to win- not exactly a neutral name for it -.-

    War names are community selected and therefore a reflection of community sentiment. Expecting the community to be neutral about anything is objectively unreasonable. 

    On 1/24/2021 at 1:13 PM, zigbigadorlou said:

    Nah, I know what's going on. I just worded it weirdly. I meant to be grumbling about how we had been calling it Dial Up for like 8 months when they decided to rename it NPO's last time retroactively. I see this vote to be the same revisionist history nonsense as what happened with Dial Up

    I honestly don't remember who did the vote for NPOLT. But in any case, if we named wars for the first 2 days they would all be named 'dial up', in fact thats been a recycled named suggestion for many years. Wars are typically defined by the middle and end events. And at least when I do the votes the format is almost always to have the vote after the war is concluded. This is the standard format, not some randomness being thrown out cause I didn't like the name. I literally don't care one way or the other.

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    In any case, I have been considering some type of alliance rep system to handle nomination shortlisting in a more compact manner. So if anyone has thoughts on that concept speak up.

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    War Name Vote -GW16 Attempt #3

    in Orbis Central

    Posted · Edited by Dr Rush

    Only took 3 attempts at submitting it. Preliminary vote for the name of last global. Vote for the ones you like. Will almost certainly be a 2nd round of voting later on. 

    Also a heads up in the future this naming process is likely to be changed somewhat.

    Moderation to Reduce the "Hate Breeding Pool"

    in Game Suggestions

    Posted

    On 12/31/2020 at 12:36 PM, Zephyr said:

    This is an unrealistic and inappropriate approach to dealing with these issues...

    • Screenshots/videos of user comments can be easily edited in multiple ways to falsify evidence.
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      If I released this under different circumstances, would this be enough to cause confusion to less informed players? Maybe an accomplice could produce a similar screenshot to corroborate the claim and further cause havoc to Alex's reputation? "Zephyr did report Rose for violating game rules, maybe he has it in for them, and maybe Alex would do that for a hundred bucks on the side". Maybe you'd think such suspicions 'make sense', but it would not actually prove the screenshot legitimate or accusations drawn from it true.

      The only way to prove to another user the legitimacy of a comment is to directly show them the actual comment itself, which means they need access to the server, channel, group chat, or direct message in which it appears. Screenshots are only useful at communicating information between trusted parties that would be certain a deception is not occurring. We should obviously hope that Alex's burden of proof is greater than taking the word of some random player waving a potentially doctored screenshot in front of him.
       
    • Many P&W Discords actually are, or become, social hubs for their members.
      Once a Discord evolves into a social hub beyond just P&W related coordination, is it beyond Alex's reach? Does this mean we now also have to debate exactly what qualifies as a P&W Discord that Alex is permitted to infiltrate and moderate? Does this just mean alliances will race to step outside this definition to regain privacy and independence from Alex's moderation? Will this really yield the desired results?
       
    • Alex is not entitled to regulate a player's behaviour in their own domain, or access their personal information therein.
      It's invasive and violates the privacy and independence of individuals to socialise in their own privately organised groups. There is no reasonable argument that Alex should have access to information shared in these spaces, let alone moderate behaviour within them. He does not own these Discords, these are not his spaces to moderate.
       
    • Alex is not capable of effectively moderating hundreds of Discords, channels, group chats and direct messages.
      Alex is one man already having difficulty keeping up moderating the game, he would have to recruit help and unless he's willing to pay for it that means players and the potential abuse that comes with that. Furthermore, will players simply forgo associating their Discord account with their nation to avoid Discord moderation and punitive action against their nation?
       
    • Users can delete their comments to evade Alex's judgement.
      If the standard of proof is (necessarily) direct observation of offending content, how responsive can Alex possibly be? I imagine the easy workaround for offenders would simply become deleting their comments before Alex can investigate.
       
    • Users and Discord admins already have tools to limit exposure to abuse.
      Discord allows users to block users, and server admins can kick and ban abusive users, as well as use bots to help moderate their Discord's content. Through sensible decision making, users and Discord admins do have options to largely limit exposure to abuse on Discord.
       
    • Discord has Community Guidelines and a Trust & Safety Team that handle inappropriate user behaviour and content on their platform.
      Discord already has robust Community Guidelines and a reporting process that already address a lot of the types of abuse mentioned. Discord's staff are more capable of accessing reported content than Alex, who would presumably have a lot of difficulty infiltrating every P&W related Discord, channel, group chat and direct message. Additionally Discord's staffing is more sizeable and faster at responding to moderation requests.

    This pretty much. Most importantly to me, there is a myriad of ethical concerns in this kind stretching of the moderation reach. There are also very important practical issues. A good place to start would be what if the hosting server (rightly I might add) refuses to allow access? Is Alex supposed then threaten to ban them too? Pretty sure that would be a violation of Discord's ToS to say nothing of US law. And even with access there are still many ways to hide stuff on Discord; And most servers are not set up to handle them reliably. So even ethics and availability concerns aside, a program like this would require Discord's platform level tools. 

    On 12/31/2020 at 1:27 PM, Hime-sama said:

    There should be a crossover between the game, the official Discord, and the official forum in some capacity. If someone is banned from any platform for OOC, hate speech, basically any extreme violation of that sort, so should they be banned from the other platforms to root it from the game as much as reasonably possible, since moderating other unofficial servers is too delicate. The punishments for these violations, would also need to be revisited, because a 1/9 warn on the forums for hate speech is frankly not enough.

    In principle I do agree that the official areas should have a more cohesive moderation system both in rules and punishments, including some 'global' level punishments. That being said, there are certainly issues, mainly with the ability to adequately track and link accounts on various platforms. Some stuff has been taken up cross platform before, but its an exception not the rule because it requires a large time investment from staff to do that.

    On 1/3/2021 at 9:01 PM, 丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ said:

    I mean if it became an OoC is not allowed/question people's IRL integrity....

    You'll be opening a can of worms for the whole community

    Almost every prominent player has an OOC oopsie moment

    I would know, I keep tabs on shit people do. Both IC and OoC, but only IC scandals make it to SNN. 

    Remember when GOONs used moderation as a weapon? Starting this is asking for a moderation war and the moment people think they can snipe some low hanging fruit, it's going to be returned with a moderation and OOC character bloodbath. This is how all of this will go down:

    *snip*
     

    Shifty makes a great point here as well. When ever a rule exists, there will always be a line of people trying to bend it in their favor or alter its interpretation to their favor. It's also possible to make a mistake, even acting in good faith. In fact thats guaranteed. 

    19 hours ago, Young Guilo said:

    This is not the point of this rule. We are not moderating discord servers, I'll repeat that:

     

    THIS IS NOT TO MODERATE SERVERS

     

    You are unquestionably requesting PW staff moderate other servers. That it is only in one area, does not change what it is.

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    Now as the Lead Mod for the official server, I have severe ethical concerns with even attempting such a course as OP has requested. Especially when the needed tools for such a venture are not even obtainable much less actively available. So the answer is a flat no.

    Part of being a mod or having any authority for that matter, is knowing where your authority should stop, and this is very much past that line. It is ultimately the right and responsibility of Discord's team to moderate their platform. And it is to them you'll need to take up any issues outside of PW's small confines.

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    Moderation reform

    in Moderation Support

    Posted

    The nazism rule does exist in weird place where it both covers the promotion of nazi material and also separately accusing others of being nazis. From a record keeping perspective that is a valid issue to bring up and I'll add it to the list of things to be addressed next time the rules/policies are updated. That being said, if we are being intellectually honest, downfall parodies are very much associating whoever is being memed on with nazis. Whether intentional or not that does happen and should fall under whatever rule covers calling each other nazis. That being said, the community has already had a discussion on downfall in particular and per Alex it enjoys a special exclusion from the rules. I doubt Lossi knew about that specific exception so I have let them know about it and struck your warn from the record.

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    More sports other than baseball

    in Game Suggestions

    Posted

    12 hours ago, Deulos said:

    Repeal and replace, instead of repealing.

    Check the suggestions in this forum addressed to you, the game creator, about possible replacements for baseball.

    This comes down to using alex's dev time wisely. Yes baseball could be fixed. Is it worth the effort at the cost of other things like a buff to navy or search boxes taking nation/alliance ids, not so much.

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