stetonic
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So the OP is UPN going to war with TS,SK and TEst but you have Mensa going on about VE not being liked,VE inactive nation's and Mensa talking shit about DEIC.You do know the myth about if a Mensa member does not post in every thread the world will end is just that a myth.
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Causus belli?
You all complain that DEIC deos nothing in the game.Then when we go to war you want a 20 page !@#$ing essay explaining why.Wish you would make your minds up
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Its strange how TS have made this all about VE and there relations with UPN and Mensa have made it about themselves (well that's not so strange coz as we all know P&W revolves around Mensa) but TEst over in the corner have just said Oh ok your attacking us lets have some fun.Weird how politics work aint it
Would also just like to say that so far its been great fun fighting along side our UPN allies
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If you took two minutes to stop and check the uk does have gun's but the process of getting one i very strict.Unlike the U.S where everyone can have one.No matter if you have a history of being a !@#$ing nutter coz your argument is always the same,Its my 200 year old right to have a gun.So i need an assault rifle to defend myself.
I will give you an example
In the uk if we wake up in the night coz of a noise from downstairs.We get up we turn on a light and go down to investigate.Once we are down stairs we turn on another light and what do we see.A family member sleepwalking.Or in an extreme case a burglar jumping out of the window and running away.
Now the same situation in the U.S.A.We hear a noise we grab our gun from under our pillow and we commando roll across the bedroom floor.We then creep down the stairs as quietly as we can.So we have the element of surprise.Once downstairs we peek around the corner and see a shadow.So we empty a full clip from our 9mm semi automatic handgun coz 1 shot would not be enough to scare them away.We then turn on the lights and see our dead family member who had been sleepwalking and not the home invasion gang we had been expecting.
Its at that point you think shit maybe i didn't need that gun at all and i should of used my COMMON SENSE instead of the Hollywood induced scene i thought i would encounter
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YOU from under your bed
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and THERE is the paper.
Was going to say ain't a protection agreement a sort of teaty
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The right for Americans to own guns comes from God, not our Constitution. Same thing for our right to free speech, to privacy, to a fair trial, etc.
Also, you know absolutely nothing of American politics. The claim that the government doesn't want to ban guns purely because of lobbying from the N.R.A.. is absurd.
How do you go about banning guns in America anyways? How do you plan on taking away hundreds of millions of guns from tens of millions of people? What's YOUR solution, stetonic?
My solution is very simple.All your law abiding population have guns that are registered so the police go and knock on the door and say the gov have passed a bill on guns.So give me your gun and you give them your gun.Its a very simple plan and you know what it works coz the UK did it and so did Australia after they had mass shooting and they did not have one civil war over handing them guns over.
My knowledge on U.S politics is not up for debate but my knowledge for common sense will beat your argument for using a 200 year old law any day.Plus i don't believe god invented the handgun or gave the knowledge to create gunpowder for the purpose of killing kids while they learn about the world we live in
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Your scenario of "walking into a classroom and killing 10 kids" is a huge rarity. You know how many times it's happened in a high school? Once. An elementary school? Once. How many bus drivers deliberately killed those kids? Probably not zero. We don't need national freak outs every time someone kills a handful of the 74 million children in America. Is it tragic? Yeah. Does a insanely rare death mean that America has a gun problem? No.
Mass killings happen, school attacks happen, it's not because of guns. Without guns we just see more arson, bombings, and knifings.
I know killings happen.If someone wants to do harm they will even if they have to use a rock from the garden but i would rather take my chances against someone with a knife then a gun.Fear can be a great motivator when having to run or fight and running or fighting a guy with a knife will lead to a better chance of survival than against someone with a gun.
America does have a gun problem.A huge amount of your own population want guns banned but its your gov who are to scared to ban them from fear of losing investment in there campaigns from the NRA.Its ingrained in your mentality and your second amendment but it can be changed its already called an amendment coz it was changed before
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Easily, by comparing CDC cause of death statistics. You joke, but kids die in bus crashes too, going to school. 170 kids died as a result of school-related transportation fatalities from 2004-2013 (source). During that same period, 140 kids died due to school attacks (source). Both of these rates are very low rates, do we need a national discussion on our going to obsession?
In how many of those bus crashes did the driver deliberately kill those kids
The definition of an accident is an incident in which you have no control of the outcome.Walking into a classroom with a gun and killing 10 kids is a deliberate act and not an accident.So once again i find flaw in your statistical argument
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I find it amusing when the British always make references like "the whole world" in not understanding the right to bear arms, when in fact it is usually just the British who question. Okay, sometimes the occasional Scandinavian pipes in now and then as well.
To me it is mind boggling to not own or have access to firearms. And it is mind boggling how quickly people, mostly kids here, who are so eager and willing to give up their liberties and not have access to them.
Better to have access to them and not own one then to not have access and really, seriously need one.
Restricting your access only makes it easier for the few who do want to control you to eventually losing your accessibility.
Are you taking the piss or what.I fully understand your rights to bear arms but your argument is over 200 years out of date and you where given that right as a means to raise a milita or oppose an oppressive gov.Are you that paranoid of your own gov that you cant lay down your guns and put your trust in those that are trained and paid to serve and protect you.
I looked this up and this year almost 600 children under 11 years of age have been injured or killed in a gun related incident.You have also have had over 1400 accidental shootings.
I saw you before saying about conceal and carry.Well i bet the women who had a handgun in her handbag with a licence to carry regrets that after her 3 year old shoot itself in the head in a supermarket.Or the parents of children whos eldest child has shoot his/her younger sibling while playing with a gun like daddy does
Maybe you will change your mind about guns when one of your loved ones gets killed by one
Greatnate your stats are skewed in favor of your argument.How can you compare car deaths and gun deaths.How many car journeys are made every day and when was the last time a car came into a classroom and started randomly running students over
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The F.B.I count a mass shooting as
When 4 or more people are shot in a single event without a cooling off period
So how many group shootings/killings happen but don't make the list
According to the mass shooting tracker there has been 298 mass shootings in the U.S.A this year.
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You where given the right to bear arms over 200 years ago when the weapon of choice was a single shot musket.Maybe if you said you can keep your guns but you have to use a musket and not an assault rifle.It would be a lot harder to have a mass shooting and seeing as how you want to live in the past this would be a fitting solution.
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I have always been a firm believer in that god/religion was created by man to control man.Everyone who has half a mind has questioned why they are here and where they came from and the easiest way to work that out in your mind is the presence of a higher power
Don't get me wrong i do not judge anyones belief but killing in the name of any religion that is 1000's of years old or living your life to a text written by someone who could of just been a nut job seems like a waste of life to me
I do believe in something i just dont know what he/she is called and there are many religions and you all can't be right
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Shouldn't have stopped at page 2 then, the conversation shifts on page 3.
Well thanks for the extra info on the subject i will go back to page 3 and start again but my point will still stand at the end
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So page 8.Well a read upto page 2 and fell asleep.You do know you both are arguing about something that has no scientific fact and can never be proved until the day you die and then its to late to tell the other one they where wrong
I am not saying i do not believe in god.I am just saying the only way to win the arguement is for one of you to die and i am sure even you will admit thats taking the right to be right to far
Plus can one of you explain dinosaurs
When i say god i mean i believe in a higher power maybe not a god but an outside influence
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VE need to pick there spies more carefully in the future.May i suggest doing a psychological profile on the next one so he dosen't crack under the pressure of deep under cover work
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The only info you could of gathered on DEIC are the excellent funding projects we offer to members.So if you want to publish that info.Then please post it on our recruitment page and give the DEIC recruitment staff a day off
Also after i kicked you once and you tried to reapply under a different name.You should not put on your application that you are a returning member.That kind of defeats the object of changing your name.Which is why i kicked you for a second time.
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True King AKA Chris has been removed from DEIC
We/I dont want the hassle and baggage that comes with this member
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His nation has been deleted now,so happy days
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Chris, I bid 15 million for that info.
You are offering to much.Chris is an attention whore and will sell that info for a cupcake
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Well only time will tell but power does funny things to people and once they get a taste.They will say and do anything to keep that power and the way the uk voting system works you only have to get your bullshit past so many people to gain power
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It dont really matter who is in power they all lie to get there.Then screw everyone over until the next election then they lie some more and screw everyone again and we keep on doing it over and over coz there is no other option
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It'd change politics completely that much is certain.
Railways, power, and so on are just cartels out to squeeze people dry. The state crushing them is no bad thing as such things fundamentally should be under the state's stewardship.
As for nukes... you are aware they're reliant on America for that right? The pro trident camp should really switch their views to having Britain go it alone on the nuke front instead. I'm aware it's considered "illegal" and all that but it's never stopped Britain before. I'd be for that myself, however Trident is a bad joke.
Having power and rail owned by lots of companies is designed to give the consumer a better choice if all power was owned by the gov they control the price
I would be all for that if it was sold to me at cost and they make no profit but they wont as they have a trillion pound debt to pay off
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60% is not LOL votes. He won by a landslide.
Also, when are we actually going to use our nukes? Why do we need them? Total waste of money. We can't use them without USA permission and they have 7,000 of them compared to our 250 or so. Might as well get them to use theirs. Even France has more than us. Plus if we ever fired any, we'd be dead.
You are wrong about the nukes.We do not need anyone's permission to fire them.They can be fired by direct order of the prime minister
The warheads are also made by the uk while the missile is leased from the us
a Statment from Hansarius and the United Purple Nations
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I fully agree being punched to death sounds like a shit afternoon