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    PvP Overhaul

    in Game Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Holton

    8 hours ago, ForgotPants said:

    A possible solution could be that a nation with full defensive slots can recruit 50% more units than normal per day. When a nation gets hit by 3 attackers, there is very little chance for the nation to fight back and usually it becomes a war of attrition. This could, theoretically, give those nations a fighting chance.

    This is definitely something that needs rebalancing. Tanks are stupidly overpriced to the point where destroying tanks is a good way to cause financial damage to an opponent. Soldiers on the other hand are way too cheap. All military units need a cost rebalance taking the new economic reality into account.

    I would like to see military cost decreases across the board. Maybe like 10-15% cash cost reduction of planes and boats, but with a 50% resource cost reduction of anything using steel. Maybe even a 66-75% reduction in steel cost for tanks. They're just hugely expensive compared to other, more useful, units.

     

    Cost, infra/military damage done, and unit production all need re-balancing. The current war system is painful. Cost/damage needs nerfing, production needs boosting. The system shouldn't make wars meaningless but right now people won't even fight when outright provoked because of the cost.

    Announcement from THC

    in Alliance Affairs

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    I wanted to wish you good fortune in your wars to come but... I would feel unoriginal now. So I will wish you good fortune but I will also extend this offer: If you need assistance on how to set up the organizational side of things or questions on the narrative thusfar, please feel free to contact me on discord or via nation PM and I will do my best to help you.

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    Joint Declaration of War on Arrgh!

    in Alliance Affairs

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    To all the people posting in support of Arrgh and trashing TKR for wasting a ton of money: Thank you for you support, but let's keep in mind that going to war and doing something off the cuff shouldn't be limited by who's gonna lose more money.

    If you wanna declare war on someone, go for it. Hold a grudge, make an enemy, fight a battle, shake it all off afterwards. Arrgh is living proof that you can survive through wars just fine. Just have fun.

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    Real talk

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    We all know that all this public bickering, smith showing his ass, TKR hitting Arrgh, all of it... It's just EMC trying to convince IQ that the split is real and at the end of the day it's a trap trying to lure IQ into another losing war...

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    Terminal Jest RoH and RoD

    in Alliance Affairs

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    7 hours ago, Smith said:

    I don't agree. He is projecting himself/his alliance as a hero against the hegemony when he is in large part responsible for that hegemony's growth. His alliance is bragging about the damage they are doing which is a fraction of the billions in loans he has provided. This is the hypocrisy I am pointing out 

    Playing both sides, hm? It's almost like Partisan is dynamic.

    E-Court is now in Session

    in Orbis Central

    Posted · Edited by Holton

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    For too long Orbis has been a chaotic whirlwind of bickering and arguments that carry on with no resolution in sight. Homeless E-lawyers wandering the OWF with no place to call home. No more! Today, with my carefully crafted team of Justices, I have founded the first E-Court of Orbis! We are here to resolve any disputes you may have from trade disputes all the way up through alliance peace negotiations.

    Our first land-mark case: Partisan vs. the People of IQ. Presided over by Justice Abbas Mehdi, Justice TheNG, Justice Ogaden, and Justice Ameyuri.

     

     

    The Court invites IQ to nominate a Representative for their side of the case and to begin preparing opening statements.

     

    We will also be taking applications for impartial Justices to sit on the special panel for this case - Attempting to keep things as balanced as possible of course.

     

     

    Discord link: https://discord.gg/8X5brDA

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    Look, Listen, and Learn: A TKR Joint

    in Alliance Affairs

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    2 hours ago, Abbas Mehdi said:

    I am just awed at how much it lacks foresight.

     you are wearing these horse blinders that is even blocking you from seeing inconsistencies in your own narrative.

    Are you gonna do a split with them as well and we will start calling this game agar.io.

    Forgive me if I feel disappointed but I at least expected you to hit a major alliance with enough defensive slots to be considered a blitz

    Mate they are laughing their ass off in the back channels at the capital you burnt to roll people that are so irrelevant to the political game.

    Roq doesn't even have to do any work anymore considering whenever he makes a disappointed face you are ready to say you are wrong

    Forgive me if I think Roquentin is more pragmatic than you.

    and they for sure aren't laughing their asses off at you pandering to them in such a petty way.

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    Joint Declaration of War on Arrgh!

    in Alliance Affairs

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    55 minutes ago, Kayser said:

     

    Some time ago, The Knights Radiant made an announcement in the midst of a whirlwind of political change on Orbis. We wanted to make clear our disapproval with the way that politics had progressed up until that point, with two mega spheres both occupying their own respective tiers of strength with little to no overlap. Such a structure made wars less likely and politics almost useless in the face of hyper-consolidated spheres. To that end, we set about attempting to do away with that structure. 

    Our attempts take us up to the present day. We're still a ways away from our ideal Orbis but we're committed to working toward it daily. Relevant to this desire is the idea of working with anyone, historical friend or foe, to work toward this goal. We can't be content to sit in our own old clique of alliances and be content. Being dynamic means reaching across the aisle and taking chances when it makes sense for you to.

    Recently, we were approached with an idea of tackling some pirates. Specifically, we were approached by a few alliances who have historically been opposed to TKR or the sphere we occupied. What sort of dynamic alliance would we be if we passed up this opportunity to work with them?

    We didn't need the other signatories in order to carry out this war from a military perspective. That's not the point. We wanted to add to the precedent of non treatied alliances with a common goal coming together in pursuit of that goal. That historical enemies can come together in pursuit of a common goal. That we are an alliance of our word and our publicly stated direction and desire is not shallow. That we will continue to pursue that direction and our rhetoric is to be taken at face value.

    This is not the culmination of our labors, but it is an important incremental step. 

    So here we are. This isn't about fighting a historical menace in Arrgh, it's about living up to our word. 

     

    That and blue balls, jeez, its been like 9 months or something. Finally. 

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    No shade (but some legit questions from a mere pleb)

    in Orbis Central

    Posted · Edited by Holton

    25 minutes ago, Edward I said:

    It's interesting that almost all criticism of NPO falls into one of two veins: "NPO is evil, they're killing the game!" or "NPO isn't being evil enough, they're killing the game!".  Even if we thought it was a good idea, NPO can't always be pragmatic and go out of its way to be an idealized villain for everyone else.

    I think the distinction you've missed is that being self-interested and being "the villain killing the game" are two separate things.

     

    Things like permawar or forced disbandment or punitive reparations could be considered the "villain killing the game" because you're actively hindering someone else's progress through spiteful means.

    Things like not allowing yourself to be in a bloc unless you're the/a leader of it are self-interested moves. Creating a sphere around yourself is a self-interested move. Both things your alliance does well and should be modeled by others.

     

    And again, no one is out here demanding NPO step up and do the impossible. Many of us are content just to see you guys engage with the community.

    No shade (but some legit questions from a mere pleb)

    in Orbis Central

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    3 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

    Or how about what Altmoras/Dad recommended and we use Occam's Razor. Did he derive the opinion he has from someone just telling him the OWF is toxic or reading it on his own and coming to that conclusion?  I already know he read it on his own and came to his own conclusion on it since he mentioned it. A lot of people aren't really particularly enthralled by image spam or shitposting except for the people who glamorize it like yourself. Different people have different tastes and for the vast majority of people they don't like to engage on here or any browsergame forums. It's not anyone's obligation to provide you with content.

    Instead of trying to paint some sort of false narrative of how an entity in a much smaller setting years later is supposed to be like your imagined bygone era in another game(lol) at a time at which it had four or five times the playerbase this one currently does, you could see things for what they are. People don't have the emotional investment in posting that they did seven, eight, nine, ten years ago in a different game and the vast majority of people who were interested in it moved on past the medium. The people who tended to post the most didn't tend to stick around for a decade. Most people don't want to spend time outspamming a lightly moderated  forum. Basic demographic shifts.  Again, there isn't any obligation on anyone's part to post just to try to show you up. This post was a good vehicle for you to brandish your crossgame personal issues, Holton, but it's based on irrationality more than anything else. There was never been one hundred twenty members posting concurrently from any single alliance in any nationsim game and when there was even half of that, it was from a much wider base of players and it's a ridiculous expectation to have. It's also not twenty three people posting and that would be attributing every negative post to just Terminal Jest members when it's not the case.  If you were being earnest with your 50s faux nostalgia-style trip you'd know radio silence was a frequent thing even in the halycon yesteryear you keep harping on about.

    The reason ultimately why people aren't bothering to engage this time around is it's all the same talking points and we know where everyone stands. There aren't any real arguments to have.  It's full circle. If you want to get your jollies off trolling people, that's your prerogative, it's not anyone else's to respond. There isn't a need to rehash responding to what boils down to "you suck" and argue about that.  If someone wants to, they're welcome to indulge in masochism and talk to the wall on here.

     

     

    It appears I struck a nerve.

    You can spin it into "Holton has a grudge" all you want but the truth is I have nothing against you other than what I've been openly stating. Furthermore, take note that none in this game are off-limits to my criticisms. So please stop dropping full-length essays about how I'm trying to witchhunt against you or your group because of things that happened in other worlds years ago. At least engage my points if you're going to bother responding.

     

    Somehow the big bad community of roughly 20 regular posters has managed to create too toxic of an in-character environment for the majority of the game to even attempt to engage with?

    I'm not goading you, or anyone, to create content for me... I want to see the world thrive and try to free the overwhelming majority from being locked in a self-imposed exile.

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    No shade (but some legit questions from a mere pleb)

    in Orbis Central

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    23 hours ago, Shadowthrone said:

    We just choose to not engage on the OWF for the most bit :) 

     

    19 hours ago, Buorhann said:

    Gag orders aren't really that huge of a deal, because they don't hinder relations with other alliances they may be treatied.

    Most current alliances have strongly built communities as well.  So it's not a huge shakeup there either.

    However, your points do hold merit.

    DrRush is expressing some decent points here but I'd also like to come at this from the side of the individual nation - interacting on the game's forums, especially in an age where alliance forums rarely exist, is one of the best ways to expose yourself to the wider community. Very important stuff. Also "self expression is important" etc.

    17 hours ago, Dad said:

    I think Occam's Razor would serve you well here. Which is more likely? That hundreds of members IQ who would have been shitposting along with you guys are all bound and gagged by leaders who totally have the free time to micromanage us all? Or do we just not give a shit about a war that most of us aren't even involved in?

    I'm a really really old player so while I appreciate a logical argument, I also know that gag orders are real things that aren't very hard to implement. If it hasn't been directly ordered then it's been culturally reinforced by repeated portrayal of the game you play's public forums being "too toxic to visit". The very people who love to repeat this line are some of the most venomous posters I've ever met and to think they can't take the heat of someone making a cultural victory meme is laughable. It's all propaganda.

    15 hours ago, Shadowthrone said:

    Oh do tell us more about how we treat our allies? For someone who's new here, I'd be glad to listen to this history lesson :) 

    NPO is historically an alliance that fits into multiple categories. They are a leader group, meaning they will not content to be along for someone else's ride and prefer to be a centerpiece of any bloc or war they're in. They're historically pragmatic and have shown the ability to cast aside long-term allies for political gain or recruit long-time enemies to the same effect. They're also known as a particularly ruthless group, known to hold a grudge for a long time and try to act on it when opportunity arises as long as it doesn't interfere with other goals.

    Personally, I fall into a camp of people that actually supports NPO's methods. Pragmatism, self-interest, and ruthlessness not only make for good points for T-Jest to make propaganda posts about, these qualities also provide an interesting figure on the political stage to contend with.

     

    In a sea of mindless alliances barely surviving disbandment, content to languish in inactivity and meaninglessness, a self-interested pragmatist group is a beacon of light in the darkness. We need more of these and ideally every alliance should act with self-interest and a desire to be the centerpiece in mind.

     

    Unfortunately, this all falls short of the mark when they forsake what they are and go radio silent and pout in their corner like a child. If 23 people can post on the OWF and make the environment seem "anti-pacifican" then surely the 120 members of Pacifica can out-post them and turn that tide. A leader-type alliance like NPO can't hide in the shadows like Roquentin has done for years in previous alliances. It simply doesn't fit your established persona, but it's what happens when you import your entire government and cabinet from a completely different culture.

    Old Pacifica thrived on their propaganda department and public image. PnW's incarnation needs to live up to the name.

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