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    Does P&W thinks gun controls work?

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    Posted · Edited by John Henry Holliday

    For the love of God guys, read this:

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

     

    California has some of the toughest guns laws in the country, and it has a death rate per capita of 3.4 per 100,000

    Oregon, which has just about the most lenient gun laws in the US, has a 0.9

     

    Oregon's gun laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Oregon

     

    They have next to *NONE*, but are vastly safer.

     

    "Common sense" gun laws *do not* work. Period. It's poverty issue, not at all a "gun issue". The cost of living in Oregon is also much cheaper, think on that to, hah

     

    This is simply "The Party's" new Abortion and Gay Marriage(People got tired of hearing about abortion, and Gay Marriage is no longer an issue, so they need a new topic for their successful strategy). It's the topic they are using to continue to divide(And distract) Americans against each other so they can continue their completely un ethical government that is !@#$ing the American people in -MUCH- more meaningful ways behind the curtain. It's The people who do the research and know what they are talking about Vrs those who believe something because it sounds sensible and are persuaded by the politicians =/

     

    You're comparing a state with roughly 3.8 million people in it to a state with 37 million people in it (Census Bureau, 2015). Oregon doesn't have several overcrowded cities and all the problems related to them; they may have one (Portland) that is just beginning to experience problems. While you do try to make it fair by using the "per capita" violence, the conditions are not remotely similar. Although you also try to debunk the poverty issue by saying the cost of living is cheaper in Oregon, you're making a mistake that a lot of people understand: correlation-causation. Just because the cost of living is cheaper does not mean that the people there are living in poverty. How are the wages? What's the unemployment rate? How many people live below the poverty line?

     

    Let's not politicize this issue into Democrats or Republicans. The gun control issue has been around since the 1930s due to gang violence (hence why the ATF had a job), but took off in the 90s due to the Brady Campaign and school shootings like Columbine. It is by no means a new issue designed to distract people as a result of some plan for control. I'm not saying the government isn't unethical though. If you look at all the scummy things the CIA did during the Cold War, like. Project MKULTRA and things disclosed in the Church Committee (U.S. Senate, 2016), then you have reason to fear and distrust the government.

     

    What if it were politicized? What if it were the politicians' error that kept us in this state? Without civil discourse, unbiased statistics, and politicians willing to compromise for the benefit of their constituents, the political machine is broken. Reason has given way to emotions and stubbornness. The more close-minded we are, the deeper we fall into the maelstrom until we can no longer climb back out. The ghost of the Great Compromiser screams at how petty our issues are compared to what he dealt with, yet we'll never have another Henry Clay. The cogs in the machine grind to a halt.

     

    Enter stagnation.

     

    Also, I disagree with banning semi-automatic weapons like Australia did. I'm in support of any sane human being owning any gun they want as long as it can be tracked if that sane human being goes off his rocker. Ah, one day I'll get that MG42/MG3/M53 I always wanted.

     

     

     

    ​References (!@#$ this shit, I ain't need no hanging indent nor correct citations)

    United States Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/popest/data/state/totals/2015/index.html

     

    United States Senate http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Church_Committee_Created.htm

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