[Why "Islam" is a bad religion]

I'm not saying it's all evil it creates allot of evil. There are a few religions out there that are very peaceful in their ways. Religion in my life has always been a bad thing. The people i know that are strong christians think they are better than others and no matter what bad they do it's wiped out by the fact they are the church organ player! Thousands have died due to others extreme religious beliefs wars have been and still are being created due to religion. There is never any excuse for causing harm to anyone else regardless of what they have read in a book. Part of the reasons they inflict harm on others is because of who they are as a person. Maybe many years ago when people of the church took the homeless or disabled in they were very good and useful but that doesn't happen much now. However, religion also brings hope to people. Although i have never done the whole religion thing in a dark time of my life a pastor knocked on my door i was well known in the community and he said he had heard of me and wanted to offer help. He would help me anyway he could including financially. I turned him down but it did offer a glimpse of hope in my life that someone out there actually cared. which is one thing religion does it offers hope to many. But apart from giving that which the creates anyway it doesn't appear to have much else to offer anymore. 

The Jews look like the main victims to terrorism at the moment when realistically they were the first terrorists in the 1st century against the roman empire. Jehovah witnesses terrorise more people in my country on a daily basis knocking on doors at dinner times and bath times! I once told a jehovah's witness i was muslim and if my husband caught me talking to them he would beat me ha ha ha that got rid of them!!! 

"people kill because of what they read in a book"

A main reason the nazi's got into power was because after ww1 a treaty was signed (guess you could call that paper = books)

Humans will kill for ANYTHING

Religion is good and bad, it is a reason to live and to die

Its different for eveyone

[Islam]

What are your thoughts on evolution?

Humans evolved duhh

Todays humans and the first humans were DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT

So we evolved and adapted to our surroundings

(In religious books there have been numerous sources of humans living for hundreds of years, since the climate adn earth was very different at the time it is very very reasonable that humans evolved)

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Harrison

[Why "Islam" is a bad religion]

As a person living in Muslim majority country (Indonesia), every muslim I met are nice... when you talking to them face to face. When you're not around I guarantee you will talk shit about you all the time. Sometimes I'm guilty of this too.

 

Also people are pretty racist against jews here, even though there's no jews living in Indonesia. Islam causes people to hate something they never even see in their whole life.

You mean people will hate something they have never seen in their whole life?

The USA and the refugees? XD

Religion has almost no change in how you act, unless youre willing to learn from that religion and are willing to change, then it effects their life.

[Islam]

What are the proofs that god actually exist besides stuffs a single book that was written 1400+ years ago said?

Everything science cant explain

Islam golden age= Contributed to science and even made a compass

God wanted humans to be knowledgeable about our world.

Proof = Things science and humans cant explain

For example: Why is Earth so perfect to support our food, livestock, and people but no other planet?

(Also no one should use books to justify god's existence, you need logic, arguments or proof, like what i gave you here)

[Islam]

Greeting my fellow Muslim,

I appreciate your noble goal of bringing enlightenment to all those who are disillusioned about Islam and I would like to thank you personally for making this thread. My first question is about the Hadith, as you are well aware, the Hadith proscribes death as the proper punishment for apostasy. Can you please describe why this is the proper course of action and how 21st century states should incorporate this into there societies?  

I call answering this first

 

Punishments mentioned in the Quran would be very different today, although some nations still practise stoning and such. But Allah wants us as human beings to move forward in life. Which is why muslims helped create so much in the golden age of islam

Now, regarding the question. A society where we follow punishments and stuff from the Quran drastically needs to change

 

Apostasy was treated by death because during that time religion and the country was one, so leaving islam was considered being a traitor to your country, because people who left islam gathered other to fight islam,

 

However, punishments such as: Associating partners with god, leaving islam, and insulting islam. Would not be charged in todays court system.

These things are for Muslims to avoid, and avoid taking part of. The punishment for spirtutal things (such as apostasy) today should not be punishable by ANYTHING, instead that is for Allah to judge and not people. 

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I absolutely agree that this would be the result of the proposed system. 

 

But what is so terrible about such a 'colonial' order? Are not some protected alliances similar to colonies? Considering the present state of some protectorates, I think that the proposed change would add more geographic realism to the already existing system. 

Plus, a squabble over geographic control would offer a far more realistic casus belli than the present-day emotionally-driven wars.   

Enough reason here to implement this

DO IT

[Islam]

What are your opinions on homosexuals, Judaism, the Shia sect, and atheists?

Homosexuals- In my opinion i dont care. Who am i to say who should have sex with who?

Judaism: Dont really know a lot, ive only recently started studying them but they seem fine.

Shia sect: Im a sunni so, no comment

Atheists: As long as they are nice and dont bash religious people i hope they are accepted into paradise. 

But im friends with like 2 Atheists so

[Raids]

i need to find it but as i said i can't prove it it is just a hunch so on behalf of mujahideen around the world i declare cranberries the national fruit of Arabia

As a Mujahideen i rightfully decline because i dont like cranberries

[Will Trump Make America Great???]

Im Canadian i could really care less

But in all my knowledge of Trump and the USA

Youre better off having a turtle become president

[Islam]

Indeed, but before you mislead yourself you have to realize that the difference between Christianity and Islam is that Jesus wasn't the savior and there's no Holy Trinity.

Yes, you are right there

[Islam]

Well in order to become a Muslim it's not that simple. You need to believe that there is one God and he is Allah (meaning no Holy Trinity), and Muhommed is his only profit. There are other smaller things, but a simple belief in Allah's existance doesn't really earn you the Title like stating your Libertarianness gets you into John Galt's Special room.

Well like i said it depends on what you consider a Muslim

If you think a muslim is a different religion with its own seperate beliefs and such then all you need to do to become a muslim is recite tashahood. Proclaim that there is no god but god and the Prophet is his messenger.

Then you have to believe in 5 things: God, Prophets/Messengers, Angels, the Books, and the Last Day

Boom youre pretty much a muslim.

 

Mainly its Proclaiming the god thing and youre a muslim. So yea a simple belief in God's existence with good deeds and avoiding bad things will get you into heaven

On some occasions its believed by very few muslims that an Atheist who does lots of good and stays away from evil and leads a very good life and doesnt bash on religion would be considered among the believers 

[Converts?]

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[Islam]

Also id just like to quickly challenge Abu Haddad for his knowledge on Islam because i think you may give false or even radical examples (god forbid) about Islam

topics answering peoples questions on islam not debating wether islam is true or not

You should see my post about you

[Islam]

So who was the first Muslim? I have see conflicting verses in the Koran that it's Abram and the other stated that it was Mohommed, peace be upon him.

Abraham was the first Muslim

All Prophets were Muslims (including Solomon who was a Jew, Moses who was also a Jew to my knowledge, Jesus was also a Jew/Christian depending on what you thing, and Mohammad (S.A.W) was a Muslim)

However, in the Quran it can be said that all the Prophets of Islam (some i just mentioned) maybe they werent "muslim" and were a jew or Christian.

 

But what is a muslim? A muslim is follower of Islam, and what is Islam?

Islam is submission to god.

So if you look at it, if you believe in God and you submit to him, youre a believe and if youd like a muslim

Thats why, ANY ONE who believes in God will enter paradise

 

To answer your question. It dependens on what you think a Muslim is. In my opinion, the first Muslim was Abraham 

[I declare war....on terrorism.]

Are you declaring war on terrorists of all age, race, sex, and religion?

Or just Islamic Terrorists?

[Islam]

So Saudi Arabia isn't a proper Muslim country now? Don't let them catch you saying that, they'll take your head for that. Is what you're saying a "there are no real Islamic countries in the world so a Islamic country isn't bad" argument?

God will forgive such minor trifles for their "holy service" I'm sure, just how it goes in religion. 

 

You don't need religion to kill that much is true but that doesn't mean anything. Being religious and being killed by an atheist also doesn't mean anything. Your list of people did not kill based on religion.

 

They are against killing innocents but will when in a position of power do just that. Christianity lays broken so problems with it are minor trifles. Islam is still in a position of power so it spreads violence and death everywhere it goes. Break Islam's power and such violence declines quickly enough. Religion by all accounts as a life choice is fine enough, but giving it an semblance of power is a mistake that only brings evil. If it weren't all a sham America's regime change policy would work quite nicely if they brought down every Islamic state in the region and installed secular rulers, but instead they do the opposite because the Saudis pay good money or something or other like if things are all secular then the possibility of the "unified Arab nation" becomes more of a reality and they're terrified of that.

People of the same religion killing themselves is either on religious grounds of being different sects, or politically (and religion is just an aspect of politics at the end of the day) based on who holds what land, who is in charge, and so on.

 

Not seeing your point. So you can't attack religion because murder happens for other reasons? That what you're saying?

Im saying that you can attack religion all you want but religion will attack you back (even if their scriptures say they shouldnt)

Jesus said "Love your neighbor and so on"

The Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) said "If your enemy inclines toward peace, you should to"

BUT: If your family was nearly wiped out by your enemy and they surrender, i bet you 100 million dollars that a majority of people wont give a shit what their religious founders said you know why? Because they arent chosen by god, they arent that dedicated to their religion

Thats why VERY religous leaders (not just any leader, like the leaders of the leader) arent killers (A scholar and descendent of Muhammad (S.A.W) only preached and didnt kill people, some even say he had special powers and was considered to be a very good person, but not every muslim will agree with him because its human nature, we almost never all unite under 1 guy)

 

Some Buddhist Monks meditate and help others and such and they are really good people, they may or may not believe and some buddhists may even call these monks liars and such

 

My point is human nature, who we are will ALMOST always come first before religion.

 

Side Note: The last PROPER islamic state was the Ottoman Empire (in my opinion)

Saudi Arabia is just a bunch of money hungry a-holes who exploit muslims

Like my father once said "Todays muslims are a bunch of backward people, not all, but most"

[Islam]

 

So he is malicious and has no understanding. Got it. Forgive my bombast but if such a thing is true then I'll be taking hell, I'm too good for such a Demiurge. He gets 4/10 from me, not even in my top 1000 gods.

 

 

Nonsense that falls apart quickly. Your listed Atheists didn't kill people for religious reasons, no not even Hitler if you're going to bring up the obvious as unlike the pogroms of the past his was based on racial and conspiracy reasons. Simply killing people doesn't make it comparable no. 

 

Additionally killing people doesn't make you non-believers and that is honestly the biggest nonsense the modern age has given us. The Crusaders were Christians however much people like to attack them (who also as much as people hate it did a valuable service), and had all their sins forgiven. The Mujahideen of that same era were likewise the same and were real Muslims. 

Saudi Arabia who are supposed to be civilised and "real Muslims" kill people all the time over the slightest infraction discriminating heavily... are not not "real Muslims" for such killings and brutality? Of course they are don't speak such poppycock.

 

ISIS and their kind are Muslim, saying otherwise is a distraction from the real problems that need to be fixed at home (aka Islam nationally doesn't need to be fixed because anything that happens is really these mythical non-real Muslims). They're the most pitiful Muslims of course as for all their talk and actions at the end of the day many are like slaves who do not realize they are slaves (the worse kind). Be it slaves of America, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, they fight for the interests entities they have no real care for or even outright despise, and ultimately are completely expendable and given no respect.

First of all

Saudi Arabia is FAR from proper muslims, i dont even consider them caring human beings

ISIS is littering the streets with bodies when it was SPECIFICALLY said you HAVE to bury bodies 24 hours after death

You also cant behead people or kill people with fire

 

And those i listed as atheists prove you dont need religion to motivate you to kill, sometimes being religious will get you killed by atheists

 

My point was religion and not being religious is an excuse for killing others

And also almost EVERY religion goes against killing innocents (crusaders and the massacre of Jerusalem) and (isis killing civilians) 

Lets not forget religous people killing their brothers in faith (Most of medieval Europe) (Muslims fighting all the !@#$ing time with one another)

 

Murder has no religion, race, age, sex, or nationality. Period.

[Islam]

There is no religion of peace even Islam

There are only evil people who take snips of scriptures and use it as an excuse

Lists of religions that kill (they arent true believers but here is a list of religions used as an excuse)

Islam

Christianity

Hinduism

Judaism

Buddhism

EVERY RELIGION EVER CREATED
lets not forget Atheists who killed people

Stalin

Mao

Hitler

 

Belief in god or ANYTHING is motivation enough

People kill people

Guns dont change it

Religions doesnt change it

People will kill and evil will exist so long as we have free-will to chose between good and evil 

[Islam]

Abu Haddad, I have some question on the mechanics of the "72 virgins" thing if you don't mind.

 

First of, where do these virgins come from?

I can answer that

There is no such thing

 

Its a fake hadith kind of like a guy going

My brother's friend's sister's mechanic's barber's mother's ex's goat's owner said that if we die we get 72 virgins

While stuff like "no one shall bare the burden of another" came from the Prophets close companions that first hand said it.

 

In other words people dying for 72 virgins are getting nothing

[Why "Islam" is a bad religion]

I meant it as in Sunni == Catholicism in being the primary/first religion and Shia's/Protestants being secondary.

However I have no clue how Islam formed and separated so I don't have much insight other than that they're different. 

 

I think its mainly sunni and shia

One of them wanted the Prophets relative to serve as leader

The others wanted Abu Bakr a friend of the Prophet to be leader

From there its all twisted thanks to selfish people

[Why "Islam" is a bad religion]

A true Jew or Christian would know to follow islam as the bible has been edited so many times they have had the truth concealed

Woah woah woah

Now youre getting extreme

Allah never instructed us to force conversion or even suggest it

The king of Medina (during the Prophets time) was a Christian, he knew Islam and Christianity were two lights of the same sun

No one forced him to convert, and i am POSITIVE that if he died a Christian Allah will accept him as a believer

Because Allah is all-forgiving and all-wise

If they worship god and dont associate partners with him, who gives a damn what religion he follows, its not up to us to label and decide who should follow what. Its up to god

True Jews and/or Christians should follow what they want to follow, because we were given free-will for a reason, we should use it

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Not sure if i was being stalked by the police or we just live really close

 

5 stars out of 5 stars

 

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[Why "Islam" is a bad religion]

The prophet had treaties with Jews and Christians.

The Prophet considered True Jews and Christians as allies and among the believers because Moses (Musa) and Jesus (isa) were prophets

So since we believe in Musa and Jesus Jews, Muslims and Christians should all get along

Hell, if someone believes in in one god they are a believer and should be treated as an equal

HELL! Everyone is equal to us because Allah has told us to judge other, thats gods job, not ours

[Islam]

i have said before age does not mean legitimacy.

anyway i thought you followed taoism which is not a religion

Taoism is a religion

As long as they worship something and have a messanger/prohet its defined as a religion