Beowulf the Second
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If it's so bad for us, why would anyone end the war?
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You would end the war because it got boring. Can't convince your coalition to stay with you if the effort is pointless. Small groups can maintain suppression: Alpha managed to internally keep their morale and justify a bottom-tier mudsling fest under the reasoning that even if they weren't making any money, Syndi was making decreased money and their allies could perhaps get ahead. I guess if y'all are willing to stay down we have no choice but to keep going anyways despite reasons to stop
Also it's bad manners tbh
EDIT: realized he meant us, tweaked it a little
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Yeah, it's partially a reference to that and a reference to Gramsci's conception of cultural hegemoney. What we were trying to before would be a transvaluation of values and trying to overturn the whole "only winning matters. gotta get with the winners. growth is an absolute good." mantra that exists here, not to get too pretentious here.
We can't avoid being pretentious if we're talking about Nietzsche
So in this case, we take Syndisphere to have created a master-morality arising from their definition of themselves/their actions as good. Evidence for this is found in the 'git gud' and 'winning' phenomena, as well as the warfare/economic guides they are publishing based on what worked for them. They cultivate traits in their alliances that they have seen as crucial to their success, such as game activity and skill in war. They are dismissive of others who cannot develop these same tools.
Then, Paracov/Inquisition etc. are battling it with a slave-morality arising from their definition of their opponents as evil, stemming from their ressentiment of Syndisphere's power. Evidence would be found in their characterization of Syndisphere as oppressive to the game state. Valued Syndisphere traits are turned into evil ones: strong allied ties = hegemoney, game activity = no life, strong FA/published guides to economic and military success = OWF circle-jerking. Nietzsche views this as corrupt, as really the slave would prefer to be the master, but because he cannot he is only self-justifying. Nietzsche finds fault in master morality as well (calling it 'unintelligent') and calls for an overall transvaluation of values stemming from an analysis and appreciation of life (the game?) itself (not sure how this transvaluation can come to Orbis).
I don't know about much about Gramsci, but from what I gather his theory is interesting but implies an ultimately 'correct' value system (he liked Marxism), which is why I think I prefer Nietzsche who is much more ambivalent about it.
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Hey do you any of you read Nietzsche? I just got assigned his Genealogy of Morals and the discourse on master/slave morality seem to have some interesting connections to this thing about how Syndi set up the culture
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also roq sucks
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I am uneducated and would like to know about these sekrit FA goingson
I am not debating whether reps are right or wrong, and when they should be demanded, that varies person by person. What I am saying is that BK had an enforcement mechanism during the silent war that neither side has at this point in time. Curu has already explained the reasons for the FA shift, but reps are a tricky thing to manage even with the ability to actually collect them.
I'm not good at phrasing things constructively, but this statement is vapid and offers nothing. Your earlier points were clearly protesting against reps, and offering a way to evaluate when reps should be demanded. This was interesting and debatable, and though I tended to agree with Thrax I would've learned something.
Now that you claim that these posts are not about "whether reps are right or wrong, and when they should be demanded", you are devaluing/diminishing everything you have said so far, and reducing it to simply "BK had an enforcement mechanism during the silent war that neither side has at this point in time", a point which no one contradicted, and a point which very few will care about, because it was only relevant in the context of your evaluation of reps.
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Didn't bother to read the comment above yours? The buys stack.
I believe Yang is referring to the test server, where the optimal strategy was to log in every turn to collect your N/12th worth of units. Sure the buys stack over time, but in a game like PnW where a couple hundred units make the difference it was just better to be maxed at all times. Actually, when we implemented this system it made the problem worse because you would edge out any opponent who could only log in maybe 2-3 times a day, which is what currently is considered 'active'.
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From what I gathered from my side of the war, the upper tier of IQ was vastly outnumbered by the upper tier of Syndisphere. If you look at Pantheon and t$ for example: and see how their upper tier handled, only very few of them entered into a defensive war despite being on the defense.
Just saw this--I have no idea about Pantheon, but I'm pretty sure every t$ nation (except for two in VM) was involved in 3 defensive wars by the second/third day of the war. JR sent out a memo about it. Then we also had many offensive wars, so yeah. Not really sure what you mean by this
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A breakup? Inb4 Partisan with his Taylor Swift songs
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I believe this proposal was already suggested and went as far to be implemented on the test server. I didn't like it, but I forgot why (it's been a while)
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We at the $yndicate approve of any capitalism roleplay, but this is especially good.
o/ The Fed
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Oh hi Beowulf or whatever your name is. You still haven't turned around our war
I mean I lost my planes due to idiocy and then they took out my ships and tS still don't win lmao
Just wanted to update y'all on the state of Filip's nation lmao
That moment when you're blind and try to guess what's happening
Yes Filip. That moment indeed.
I mean I lost my planes due to idiocy and then they took out my ships and tS still don't win lmao
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meh, 2/10 shttalking. i expect better from a veteran like you, Kastor
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You don't need max military to blitz if you are using a Max planes strategy
Silly me. Didn't consider that you guys would be scared of our peacetime build
I guess there can never be a political solution/mutual military decommission because the Syndicate is considered by their opponents to be militarized and ready to strike even in times of peace.Seriously, what do you reasonably want us to do?
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Can confirm that we were only told to half-militarize (build soldiers now on top of your peacetime planes, that's it), and only 2-3 days before the war's onset. If the hypothesis was that a Syndisphere blitz was immediate and incoming... at any rate it probably wasn't going to include the Syndicate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I'm fine with the ideas outlined above of an attempted political upheaval against t$. The game needs exciting things to happen every couple of months. I'm meh on the execution though; while you guys gained a surprise factor by not canceling your treaties, it looks a little bad even with the bloc justification because you can't get around the fact that you're generally hitting the sphere of your historical allies
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DISCLAMER: A regular t$ member, so no clue if we were planning an offensive war against CS.
Simply calling it a betrayal because it doesn't suite you doesn't mean anything. All people do on forums is to spin things and make them look favourable for themselves, I mean I was on your side so far, it's not like I'm unaware of how comments come here.
Valid one-liner, but it just points further to the fact that you guys haven't released the logs to back up your CB. Normally people want to curry public favor to win the moral war as quick as possible, so they make a Partisan level wall-of-text/exposé with damning logs, blasting the other alliance for their treachery etc.
So it's very weird that you guys are deciding not to release the logs. You say you don't want to reveal the source, but we're already fighting so I don't get what the further consequence could be for that person (the sole exception is if you're referring to a mole), and in either case I think it'd be worth the moral highground.
I respect you Aerys so any response would be appreciated
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There is one reason why we kept in this cycle against The Syndicate. I will stay a cycle of constant warfare until we win.
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No worries, you still have quite the edge over me. I think you'll win regardless
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At least Dutch East India Company roleplayed capitalism. Now we're left with just the racist colonial part
Good luck to all my Acadian opponents!
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How does illegal mexican food differ from legal mexican food? D:
According to certain people, both of them are ruining American food. Just to different extents.
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Close one guys!
We can demil now, right?
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Lets see, what has VE in general (and Moonpie in particular) done for HBE:
1. Agreed to protect us when HBE was a new alliance and would otherwise been raided to the point of probably needing to move into a better established alliance had we not had a protector.
2. Provided us with large amounts of cash and resources to help us get started.
3. Been an advocate for us when we've run into trouble for over a year.
yeah, I agree. we do know how to pick a good ally for HBE.
look, i'm sorry that Seeker said something mean in a private discussion about the other allies of tS.
However, just because tS is unhappy with their former ally does not mean that VE has been a bad ally to HBE. Different alliances.
I totally get that HBE and VE have a great relationship, and that they have performed their duty to you guys. (though I will say that your list of VE favors seems like an unremarkable, ordinary protectorate agreement, and I don't know why you bothered listing it out)
However, shouldn't this casual talk of "real-politik" and stabbing of an MD-level ally be at least slightly alarming to you? As, I dunno, their MD-level ally? It seems kind of ridiculous that you don't mind really, but that's your prerogative and we're just pointing the fact out for you.
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No worries Alex. I'm just glad you are actively admin'ing this game, which will keep the game interesting for a long time. Thanks!
I agree with Placentica
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clumsily translated, i had the scphillips utility go through it while i was watching twitch. there are some errors, and i was wrong earlier, this is just an ODoAP not an upgrade:
# D# NOT SO LOUD. AFTER BUYING OUT [T]HE PRISON AND F[O]RMING [A] DRUG CARTEL AND MED TRAFFIC[K]ING, [CO]BRA KAI [DO]JO WAS CAPTURED AND FORCED TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THAT IS WHERE THEY JOINED THE SECRET GOVERNMENT AGENCY CODE NAMED ROSE A[ND] BEGAN TO WORK TO[WA]RDS TO STOPPING THE ILLUMINATI. AFTER NUMEROS (their typo i believe) ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS ON SHIFTY, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS MUST BE ENCRYPTED. THAT IS WHY EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY THE COBRA KAI DOJO FOR MARTIAL AND CU[LI?]NA[R?]Y ARTS FOR CHILDREN WHO CAN'T READ GOOD JET PROPULSION LABORATORY AND MISSION CONTROL CENTER STATE PENITENTIARY OFFICE OF NAVAL INTELLIGENCE AND ROSE PRESENT TO YOUBEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
SECTION I.
SOVEREIGNTY BO[TH] [O]F US A#I THAT WE MUST CONDUCT SEP[E]RATE [OP]ERATIONS TO DEFEAT THE ILLUMINATI.
SECTION II.
NONAGG[R]ESSIO[N] BOTH OF US ATHE TO NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER. WE ARE NOT GUNS N ROSES.
SECTION III.
INTELLIGENCE BOTH OF US AGREE TO SHARE THE LATEST FINDINGS ON THE ILLUMINATII OVER[A?]LL GOAL FOR GLOBAL DOMINATION.
SECTION IV.
OPTIONAL DEFENSE AND OPTIONAL AGGRESSION WE MAY CO[ME?] TO BE [DE]FENSE OF THE OTHER AND/OR ASSIST THE OTHER IN A RAID AGA[iNS]T THE I[LL]UMINATI. T[HE?] [AS]SISTA[NCE] MA[Y?] BE EITHER MI<AS>TAN# [MILITARY?], ECONOMIC, EMOTIONAL, AND/OR DIPLOMATIC. HOWE[VER] THERE IS N[O] MHLIGMETN ON T5 PART OF EITHER OF US TO OFFER SUCH ASSI[sTA]N[C]E[.?]
S[EC]TION V. [CA]NCELLATION
EITHER ONE OF HAS TO RIG[HT] TO C[ANC?]EL THIS AGREEME[NT]. HOWEVER, THERE MUST BE 72 HOUR NOTICE TO THE OTHERS GOVERNMENT IN PRIVATE ON THEIR DECISION TO CANCEL AND ALL FILES MUST BE BURNED. THEN BOTH COMMANDING OFFICERS MUST SWEAR TO NEVER T[A]LK ABOUT THE EVENTS UNFOLDED UNTIL THEY ARE BOTH REALLY OLD AND HAVE LOST CREDIBILITY ORRESE4N#
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Let's Clown Arown' :)
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? me clown ?