[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

Your barely playing the game Kamehameha, are you just here to stain our forums even more.

When I have more laptop time I will be more involved. Very busy with wage slavery and anti-TMT right now.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

the possibility of Hawaiian would have a success independence since they were angelized....0%.

Your country are not as big as Malaysia, Indonesia, India, etc.

 

I guess that's why singapore, switzerland, maldives and morocco are such huge failures.

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

We're talking about the yuri-loving, japan-otakuish taiwan's independence, why are we talking about Hawaii now? Let's return to the topic of saving the yuri population, will you?

Good point, I think alot of the people on here are uncomfortable at the idea of an intelligent brown person or an independent Hawaii, so they don't let it go.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

Junkalunka, is that you???

Yeah lol. I'm visiting this world.

[What constitutes "winning" a war?]

Destroy their political infrastructure, take resources in forms of business ventures.

That worked out well in Iraq.

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

Not if you have an automatic weapon. Or any illegal weapon for that matter.

Don't worry Hawaii has the toughest gun control laws in the US. Been that way since the illegal overthrow.

[Does Nationalism have its place?]

It's funny because the white man used to be so powerful now it's juat pathetic, you throw your warriors in jail or get them addicted to VA drugs. Slowly your people becomes more degenerate.

 

That's ok Hawaiians are about aloha. Hawaiians will Hanai all your white warriors and bring them into our ohana.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

Depends on what level. If they are engaged in manipulation of the markets and extraction of National capital then yes.

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

I think the ATF should pay your "peaceful" group a visit. I wonder what they would find.

It's funny how you support ATF against Hawaiians but if ATF knocks on white people's doors its a violation of the second amendment.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

So you don't like people who work for banks?

I don't like people who own the banks.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

But he is of the ¨current bourgeois¨ as you say. Why is he the problem here? It's not his fault that people are born into poverty. It's not his fault that some people don't get educated. If it's anyone's fault, it's the local community's, not someone successful. Don't blame the wealth of someone thousands of miles away for problems at home.

Didn't I just say I respect him? Lol. I have no issues with productive petite-bourgeois, especially if they started out proletarian like your example.

 

My problem is more with haute bourgeoisie who grow rich from a Nation without having any stake in it. For example, international bankers. It leads to attack from within, like an all-consuming virus.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

The people I hate are more likely to be found on wall street or in banking circles.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

Remember, finance capitalism is a relatively recent phenomenon, I would say from the late 80s to today has been finance-dominated capitalism in the US.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

My Grandpa worked his ass off every single day for 45 years. First as a corn shucker, then joined the navy and served 4 years, then took over his deceased father's business; Sieben Hybrids. This business was grassroots and made hundreds of thousands of money. With that money, he was able to provide for his community, his family and his church. Because of this, he ran for office in the Illinois House of Representatives. He won. He then ran for State Senate after I believe 10 years. He won that too. He worked in Springfield for 20 years, driving nearly 8 hours almost every day. Four hours down, four back. My grandfather is one of the people you hate. My grandfather, who at 69 years old is retired. But you don't know him, he is only officially retired. He manages a Superwash and profits roughly 3-5k a year from it. He helps run youth camps and Bible studies. He spends nearly all his time helping his community, but still finds time for his family which he has devoted much of his life to. He left Springfield for two reasons: To spend more time with his family, and to get away from the corruption in Springfield.

 

He treats his family, my family, my cousins, all of us, with wondrous adventures. He teaches us about compassion and understanding and how to be true to our faiths. He helped small businesses recover from the crash of '08. And he could do this all because he was a businessman and was successful.

 

Now tell me, does this sound like a greedy, evil man to you?

Of course not, he sounds like someone I would want to replace the current bourgeois elite with.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

I don't place much social value on people who are "successful" in finance capitalism, indeed many should be lined up against a wall and shot. Manipulating stock markets and undermining national integrity to become even richer are not qualities to be admired.

 

The Hawaiian Kingdom had the same problem with treasonous bourgeoisie that the United States and other countries suffers now. Remember, just as with the finance bourgeoisie and their subversion of the US constitution, the plantation bourgeoisie subverted the Hawaiian constitution as well.

[Does Nationalism have its place?]

You cannot kill all Hawaiians. We are beyond your genocide. We have spread everywhere, including the mainland, and our blood is infiltrating yours. I am half white myself but my loyalty is to Kanaka Maoli not Aryans.

[Does Nationalism have its place?]

I am very Nationalistic. I am very proud of the Hawaiian Nation United States of America and our power to literally annihilate the Hawaiian state within a few hours.

Are you also proud of the fact that your state could be annihilated within an hour as well? What about Russia or China being able to annihilate your state?

 

Were you bullied in high school or something?

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

1. TMT doesnt help Hawaiians in any way.

2. I'm not a racist

3. I'm not lazy

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

I think if US wants to push China to recognize Taiwanese independence it should set the example with Hawaiian independence.

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

Out of curiosity do people know about IC/OOC in this game or is there need for essays?

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

I think if the US came to an independence agreement with Hawaii it would be great PR and then Hawaii could recognize Taiwan.

[Should Taiwan be seen as a real nation?]

Seems like a parallel to north and south korea to me.

[The Rise of the Hawaiian Nation]

I am not the traitor, go look at the politicians and international bankers. At least I'm not the one subverting the constitution and robbing yall.

[Political Ideology]

Relax comrades, take a seat. This is why people doubt anarchism so much. Who would have brought Order to the Soviet Union if not Stalin? Hitler?

[Political Ideology]

Socialism grows organically within a group of people on the edge of evolution. It's. Kind of like pokemon. One moment you have a bunch of wage slaves the next you have soldiers.