Sylvia
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23 minutes ago, Smith said:
Am I the only one who finds it funny that so much was written in response to Buor saying "Oh ok. Cool"
You have to read the previous discussion in the thread.
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7 minutes ago, Buorhann said:
Oh ok. Cool.
I am also not saying ODN are victims. What I am saying is that attacking a group who were planning to stay out of the war was a bad move.
Also assuming that you all really did think ODN would get involved and this was not some sort of glorified raid becsuse you felt like it, once you found out otherwise, you could have. said something along the lines of “okay, guess we misunderstood. Sorry” and just arranged White Peace.
Instead ODN got told they needed to drop their treaty with NPO. That’s a bit harsh for peace, don’t you think? Switch the situation around - would you take terms forcing you to drop a close ally for peace?
The fact that ODN could have taken peace when NPO got it makes no difference. In fact, I get why they refused. You all apparently are under the false impression that Roq decides everything for the rest of us like he is the Bot Master General. That is uncorrect. If ODN took peace at the same time, it would not do anything to show otherwise. This way reinforces the idea that ODN makes their own decisions.
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8 hours ago, Partisan said:
Never specified treaty type. LUL GOOD 1
Well, Wifi got questionns about why we chose to back NPO as one of their Protectorates because in theory we did not have to do so. Yet here people are attacking ODN who planned on staying out exactly because they are another protectorate of NPO.
If nothing else, you all have done NPO the favor of demonstrating to their allies who might otherwise decide to not back them in a war because they can that there really is no choice. The group that comes out in top in that situation is NPO.
I bet Roq is smiling to himself at this point.
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4 hours ago, OsRavan said:
They told us the only way the attacks would end, would be if we cancelled our treaties with NPO. Well no thank you. The day anyone but ODN dictates who ODN can and cannot call friend will be a cold day in h
4 hours ago, Kastor said:What do you honestly gain out of this? We destroy you until you peace out and then you take even longer to rebuild. You show your “resolve” but that won’t stop anyone from attacking you in the future. You’ll be way too low to help your allies much in the future, including NPO, would will be 18-20 cities in 6 months, if not more, while your average may go to 10(last I checked it was 8-9, idk if that’s changed).
So why?
Read the section of the OP I quoted above, Kastor. You’re Welcome.
3 hours ago, OsRavan said:Speaking purely personally, what do *I* want from this war?
1) You all will never admit it publicly. But when I look in your eyes, I want into your heart-of-hearts to know you are going "Yeah, it was probably stupid of us to hit ODN when they were sitting this war out."
With all due respect, that will never happen, OsRaven. PM me. I know Kastor better than you.
3 hours ago, Partisan said:Your integrity is ever more in question considering you refused to help the only alliance you are tied to when they were declared on - then gasp at the idea that you were hit for being tied to them.
What type of treaty does ODN have with NPO here again? Oh yeah, a Protectorate.
Remember you are in PnW next time you shitpost.
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6 hours ago, ϟħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ said:
#1. Now will someone who did partake please execute the first AA to rebuild infra back to normal peace levels.
#2. NAPs were meant to be broken#3 Only AAs listed are tied down by the NAP. Meaning you can effectively disband/create new ones to start wars.
6 hours ago, LeotheGreat said:"mass ghosting, shell alliance hits"
6 hours ago, Betulius said:Or change names, since they're only identified by name, not alliance ID
6 hours ago, Mitsuru said:Does that mean those alliances spelled incorrectly in the OP are allowed to start new wars? Like "The United Empire of Zaharon" or "Principlality of Zeon"?
5 hours ago, ϟħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ said:It's not ghosting/a shell if you actually get a community to form a subcommunity and break off.
5 hours ago, kalev60 said:If any IQ members on list merge into one another the NAP is null-invoid, right? Am I doing this treaty-chess e-lawyering right here ?
5 hours ago, Thomas Meagher said:Always a way around these things. IQ will continue to merge into NPO/BK whilst the rest of us can just rebrand and do it again in a couple months. Easy enough solution
The amount of e-lawyers in this thread warms my heart .
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That last pic is why you can not have nice things.
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14 hours ago, Snicks said:
It runs deeper than you can imagine, Sylvia. I've been wounded in the fray myself. So sad.
Fixed.
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1 hour ago, Nikolash said:
You know, banned was in Ragnarok and then RUM (Alexio's former alliance, now BC) just a few months ago, yet now he is at war with both, so i find it kind of hard to believe that you joined the war because banned cares for his former alliance, not saying it's impossible just hard to believe.
Poor banned should have listened to Roq...
Actually I did not know banned was in Ragnarok. I knew he was in RUM but not that RUM has anything to do with BC. I was in HBE before joining WiFi. HBE disbanded and so I needed someplace else to go. Like I said, I did NOT talk to banned about why NPO. Just took a guess from what I do know.
I do know he was in NPO for a long time however and regardless NPO is our Protector - not Ragnarok or BC. It seems natural to me that a leader of an alliance that has a protectorate from another alliance would want to do what he can to help out - especially if the help is needed.
46 minutes ago, MoonShadow said:words
Both you and banned need to give up your personal shit against each other from that other world and move on. If nothing else, get it out of your system this war. That's my opinion but neither of you will probably listen. Do try to keep the rest of us out of it if possible once this war has finished.
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2 hours ago, Nikolash said:
Then why did you do it? Insanity could be an explanation but Horsemen also attacked us and you know what WiFi and Horsemen have in common? They are both NPO's protectorates and they are both on a suicide mission against Ragnarok. Now I'm not implying that NPO ordered you two to do so, but it certainly seems like they did something to get you into the war.
I can not speak for Horsemen since I personally do not know anything about them. In terms of Wifi, Banned was a loyal member of NPO for awhile. When he decided to leave and start his own alliance, NPO was supportive of the move , enough to agree to be the new alliance's protector. I have not talked to Banned about this in particular but given that he is a former member who left, my guess is that he wants to make sure that his friends in NPO understand that just because he left the alliance does not mean that he forgot them or somehow left to avoid war. So yes, NPO did something - they backed the establishment of Wifi when banned decided to leave NPO when they could have said something along the lines of "you want to leave, fine - good luck" and ended the relationship.
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2 hours ago, MoonShadow said:
Have to ask, what balls does it take to DoW an alliance when ordered to do so by NPO? just wondering.
A hell of a lot. We are a Protectorate and under no obligation to defend NPO. Now go piss off.
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2 hours ago, MoonShadow said:
everyone knows your white chocolate but its ok you can pretend your someone else its ok
I am teasing. That is why I used the ? after my comment. Having said that, this IS PnW and my name in PnW is Sylvia. Most people are fine with that.
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30 minutes ago, MoonShadow said:
Well White Chocolate
Who, MoonShadow? ?
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4 hours ago, MoonShadow said:
Banned couldn't even fund the war they had with Arrgh for more than a few days.
Arrgh is not worth fighting for more than a few days, to be fair.
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17 minutes ago, Ebeezy said:
Maybe if you can manage to do something noteworthy, you too will be able to make some sort of artwork that the community will enjoy.
Any visiual artwork I attempted would be shit. I know that and thus do not bother this community in that fashion. Maybe if an artist would team up with me as the writer, we could manage something good.
Does not change the fact that the OP use of that particular hittler peice is older than PnW and should be retired, which was my original point.
If people want to share with new people who have not seen it, share the first time it was used. At the rate we are going, alliances can use the varoius incarnations as a hidtory lesson. Might as well dump the wiki in that case ?
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3 minutes ago, Ripper said:
The last time it was used in this community was over than a year ago. Considering there are many players that joined in that interval (including me), I think that its use is in order.
Besides, this is one of the 100 works of our propaganda department that we have published. :|
A year is too short. Give it at least three. I am sure in the inbetween someone can find something that gets across the right idea that is fresh.
Especially someone like you.
2 minutes ago, Robert E Lee said:
B- Try again.
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That particular video was fantastic the first time it was used as a political CN joke. It was funny the second and third time on PnW.
At this point it is old and anyone who uses it in the next three years (and I am being kind saying only 3) for anything lacks imagination and creavity or is just being lazy. In Ripper’s case I will say lazy as he has shown the ability to do a goid job in the past.
Come on people, does anyone have an original thought anymore?
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On 2/3/2018 at 10:35 PM, Mikey said:
Right or wrong (and frankly, this is a game, I dont think morals come into basic gameplay) you're going to want to find a protector or a larger ally who can help deter these things.
Either way I can respect the decision to fight back, but tbh this is only going to continue until you find yourselves more firepower. We were just one of the first to notice the catch just waiting to be hooked.
Why shouldn’t morals come in to “basic gameplay”? Life on Orbiis would be rather stale if we all had exactly the same ideas on the best way to act. If people want to play different from you, good for them!
Having said that, having others to watch your back , Eugene, is a good idea exactly because there are plenty of nation leaders around who believe Mikey’s I can do whatever I please because it is just a game anyway view.
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18 hours ago, Lucifer Morningstar said:
What does it mean to be relevant vs irrelevant?
I have never heard anyone called “relevant” ever.
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15 hours ago, Epi said:
So this is a MDoAP but with a "We Encourage you
" to participate in our wars
No. It is optional.
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I, for one, am confused how any of this has anything to do with Alliance Affairs.
But in the spirit of this thread, the best robots are HBE robots. At Christmas or at any other time. Issue settled.
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On 12/20/2017 at 10:11 PM, Valen Stormblessed said:
Wonder whether that would’ve worked for HBE. Instead you had the salty machine known as hades representing your alliance.
This comment proves my point. I could be offended, but I am not. I find it somewhat amusing actually.
If anything a leader worth his weight in salt ( in his knowledge and opinion) provides for a welcome challenge for a good FA. Being popular requires keeping everyone happy, which is fine if that is what one wants. The drawback, however, is that in order to keep everyone happy, one becomes a follower entirely. No risk, no unique standing.
If HBE has a fault, it is in the area of our leadership (myself included) having enough time and frankly interest in Orbis. That is a problem on our end that we should work to change. However, it is far from the BS any of our enemies try to spin.
Hail the Hades Bot Empire!
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On 12/18/2017 at 1:54 AM, Valen Stormblessed said:
FA:
Oh boy, boy o boy. I could go on about this all day, but let’s go over one very simple rule:
Often times it doesn’t matter what you do, what matters is how people perceive that action. Remember this.
1. Learn how to spin things your way (narratives)
2. Keep a diplomat team if you can, when I was FA I did practically all work by myself, because I could. Find what suits you, implement.
3. Treaty chess - !@#$ is that? Simply put, you need to be capable of planning long term - looking at the bigger picture is more important. Your treaties should be based on two primary things, for the major part:
What a good FA person needs is a good sense of humor and enough time to use it. Everything else can be done by others behind the scenes.
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21 hours ago, Gabranth said:
You can't talk about sexism in the game without clear-cut examples of discrimination or legitimate threats either ingame or elsewhere, because as it stands you haven't provided any other than shifty, of all people, calling out thots for being thots. That's not sexism or discrimination, that's calling out individual behaviour, not collective woman-hating.
Why not? Is there some rule that says you can give whatever opinion you want without proof EXCEPT an opinion about sexism? The OP has free speech rights just like everyone else. Plenty of people express opinions about plenty of topics that I've read without clear "proof."
In terms of your comment about shifty, that's your opinion. If someone is offended by what someone else says neither you nor I can say "oh no you're not." Maybe you and I were not offended but we are not the other person.
If the majority of people here do not feel they have seen sexist comments or seen women treated in a way unequal to men in the game, good for them. I do not have any problems with that. However I am disappointed that people feel the need to argue with an OP who is expressing an opinion based on the OP's own experience. I would of thought that everyone would want a fellow PnW person to be able to enjoy the same hobby the rest of us do and not jump on her and demand "proof" for bringing up a concern that makes being here less enjoyable for her. In fact, with the negative responses here I will be surprised if anyone who agrees with the OP will share anything - certainly not in public. I hope it actually does the opposite but I understand if people who have experienced sexism just give up talking about it here.
Well, if nothing else, you found out what alliances and who as individuals will support you if there are any concerns and who will not. That's a plus
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They attack active players in alliances too.
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Important ODN Announcement
in Alliance Affairs
Posted · Edited by Sylvia
Personally I agree with you on this one point - if an alliance can not make the arrangements to protect oneself as soon as possible, find another alliance to join as a group.
However the types of individuals who start alliances tend to do so because they want at least some level of being able to make their own decisions. Otherwise joining some larger alliance makes sense. So, if another group turns around and says do X or else, the last thing an independent minded group is going to do is X.
Sometimes it just fires them up to do the opposite. In this particular case ( i. e. with ODN) in the short term you win because eventualky you will beat them down. In the long term they either become more inspired to join/stick with your enemy or quit. Perhaps you do not care, okay, but it does not change the fact that it is against your interests long term.
Maybe a few might decide to join the more powerful side. If you want THAT type, enjoy.