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...That's what a gag is, dude.
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3 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
but I think it'd been a while since I last posted a thread.
it's been like 2 days
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I can't wait to see what the next 3 threads in this series have to offer
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I'm just assuming this is a Phoenyx thread
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On 11/28/2020 at 9:52 AM, Broke said:
Can't you...... DM hime-sama .....?
Search your heart, you know the answer to this...
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17 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
Tyrion hasn't spoken to me since last Sunday. I have heard from a third party that it's because I've revealed a lot of what he's said.
Who ever could have predicted this outcome?
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"They took puzzle pieces from multiple puzzles and put them together..."
In other words, there was more than one plot to roll Quack. I kinda got that feeling from what has already been put out there, nice to have it confirmed. Don't understand how this changes our justification in any way, though. -
10 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
I've actually been given more opportunities. I think the main issue here is I'm fairly new to all of this. Clearly, I made some mistakes at first, but I'm getting a better feel for the politics here.
They have not told you anything new that they don't expect you to spill on the forums. Almost certainly they've just fed you their public narrative at this point. You are the antonym of OPSEC.
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5 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
No, I actually do with hold things, but of course you wouldn't know what those things are.
Here's the issue- the thoughts of some -really- make a difference. Alliance leaders, say. Sometimes, I think that what they say is so important, that I think it's best to reveal it than to simply hold on to it. There is, of course, a price that frequently has to be paid for that.
"Frequently" is probably not the most accurate word here. I doubt you are ever going to get more opportunities, unless someone out there is really, really, profoundly stupid enough to tell you anything of even mild importance ever again.
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Some people gave him the time of day once, and he concluded that the world revolves around him.
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3 minutes ago, Charles Bolivar said:
C'mon man. You can do better than this.
At least I hope you can anyway.
If not, keep on truckin.
You wanted to go down this path, and now you don't want to play anymore.
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I no longer believe TFP and Rose were unjustified for kicking you out.
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3 hours ago, Charles Bolivar said:
Along with others closer to home 👍
Which ones on our side fought alongside NPO till the bloody, toxic end?
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8 hours ago, Charles Bolivar said:
Some also fought with NPO and/or aided their interests.
Like Camelot, right?
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5 hours ago, Adrienne said:
Sorry, I do have to correct some things here. TKR, t$, and TI allied each other before NPO imploded. After NPO left the game, Partisan, Tyrion, and I, along with our FA teams, spent a considerable amount of time talking about what we wanted to do and how to move forward in a post-IQ world. In the end, we didn't agree on how best to do that and TI elected to resolve those disagreements by cutting ties with us and t$ and forming their own sphere, Swamp. It was an amicable split.
Fair enough. I wasn't there and, admittedly, am reading into it and hypothesizing on what caused the split post-IQ. I know we all fought together against NPO (who didn't?).
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6 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
I'm actually thinking of slowing down.
I don't think I believe you.
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13 hours ago, Phoenyx said:
I care because I care about the truth. I think that Swamp has really gotten a bad rap with all this talk that we were planning on attacking Quack first.
No, that's not it. You care because you like to hear yourself talk, and/or out of a desire to warp the truth to your preconceived views (aka whatever Tyrion told you to believe)
Tyrion.... Oh yes, that's a fun one. You see, after NPO was eliminated, after that utterly toxic war was over, TI came to Quack, asking us to merge our spheres into a super hegemony. We refused his offer, out of an interest in a multi-polar world, and hence TI turned around and founded Swamp. Tyrion has ambitions. Because we didn't join him, he considered us to be "in the way," and hence this plot was formulated.
Swamp attacked TCW and hit Arrgh in aggressive conflicts prior to this war. It's clear the path Swamp, TI, and Tyrion intend to take. It is not a defensive path. Nor is it rooted in any desire for a genuine multi-polar world, as Quack mistakenly thought achievable. -
1 hour ago, donsberger said:
Because your basis for your point is Tyrion told me so.
Quacks Points:
- We have been told we are a hegemony
- We have been told we are too big
- All 3 other spheres have M level treaties
- All above points have been admitted in public and in discord
If Quack is too big how do you make them small:
- Declare war on them
- Get them to break treaties(Wasn't going to happen as they have actively avoided signing treaties to stay at current size)
Solution:
- Must have war on Quack to try to reduce their size.
Quack Answer:
- Since they are going to obviously war us anyways lets start the attack.
But this isn't what Tyrion said happened
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2 hours ago, Thalmor said:
The name of my show (Thalmor Radio) isn't some curse that strikes down the person who utters it. It's okay to say it lol.
I've claimed several times that your side controls the narrative, but it's an observation. I have not claimed that my side is hiding nor that there isn't 'a leg to stand on' in diplomatic talks. Don't read so much into what I say.
You aren't interesting and the name of your show was and is not relevant to me. I only listened to the recording to witness the train wreck that is Phoenyx.
You and everyone else saying we "control the narrative" is just plain silly. And it absolutely should be read into, because our "narrative" is the factual one, and the one that your side abandoned was nothing but easily debunked lies. The reason your side have issued massive gag orders to the rank and file is simply an effort at damage control, when it became apparent you weren't going to win the messaging fight. Things like coalition wide gag orders among the winning coalition are not trivial things unworthy of note.- 3
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5 minutes ago, Hodor said:
Okay, but you opened up your posting decrying our silence... gotta make up your mind my dude... keep the narrative straight
"Decrying" is not the word I would use. Amused observation, really.
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Just now, Hodor said:
So.... our silence... is justified?
More justified than the lies you initially tried to pass. Your quiet acceptance that our cause is just is duly noted.
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Just now, Hodor said:
I truly haven't been paying as close attention, so I'll give you that, but what is left to discuss?
Very little, in actuality. The next series of events will be carried forth by actions, not words.
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1 minute ago, Hodor said:
Where has anyone on our side claimed y'all control the narrative? The person who genuinely complained about the narrative in this thread is on y'all's side of the war...
Multiple people on your side in multiple places have made the claim, including in that radio program. I am not going to dig up every time it's been claimed, but it's been a lot. Enough to the point that it's Phoenyx-level delusion to claim otherwise. I will assume you simply haven't been paying attention and encourage you to look around.
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Unsure if Phoenyx's post is self parody or not.
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Where to now, Immortals and TFP?
in Orbis Central
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I think you should make 2 or 3 threads highlighting the difference between a gag order, and a demand that you not say things lest you face the consequence of removal from an alliance.