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8 hours ago, Ripper said:
1. Ignore the "counters" or wars declared on you.
2. Manage your double-buys and declare wars as usual on raidable targets.
3. Win with ground/naval attacks against inactive or incapable people.
4. Get money.
5. Lose some money from beiges.
6. Declare the next wars.I don't see how your wars are any different from standard counters. The right way to raid is with 5 offensive wars and 3 defensive ones.
Why does it matter if the defensive slots are filled by a specific alliance or 20 different ones?
3 hours ago, Ripper said:There is no "winning" or "losing" in such wars for Arrgh.
We don't care about the wars to begin with.
Wars and politics of regular alliances are not the same for Arrgh.In Arrgh, the player or the alliance "wins" when we achieve our goals.
Our goals are doing whatever we want, having fun and stealing money and burning things.We could as well ignore all the wars from Swamp and pretend they are the regular counters we get anyway due to our raids.
But causing some extra harm on doomed anti-piracy campaigns is more fun.
Long story short, we are not here for Orbis domination, so we don't care about making blocs and blobs or destroying "enemies".
We are not here to play farmville either, so we don't care about war losses.
You could say every day is a win for a pirate if they do pirate things. How convenient, right?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, speaking about goals, I would love to hear the goals of Swamp behind this war.
Because, if the goal is to end piracy, I will be laughing in pirate for a while.There's Ripper. I can't argue with this man. He actually makes sense. Come talk to me on discord, I've said plenty of times I can't and wouldn't try to end arrgh lol. Thats impossible.
1 hour ago, Mayor said:Don't assume someone is new because their nation says "209" days old. I know hope well, raided in Arrgh with hope ages ago, never even paid attention to Arrgh "wars" (usually with TKR). That is the kind of alliance Arrgh is. The kind that does not give a F###.
And you say most of Orbis knows your name but maybe I am just confused, I thought you were some kind of massive pixel hugger and this war against Arrgh kind of just cements that opinion in my mind imho. If you looked back you would see many of these anti-pirate wars and they all end the same way. When in Rose I had people train milcom/econ by raiding Arrgh nations cause no one cares lol. But good luck I guess.You don't even make sense mayor. Go lay down
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Good luck kev
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Lmao. Keep going. I love it.
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4 hours ago, hope said:
glad we've established the real reason
doesnt matter whether you care or not, the cost remains the same
your point here is really weird and it doesnt really make sense. all of these alliances have been around longer, have had more experience and have more prestige. they don't need to go to war every 3-6 months to remain good at the game. they already have all the skills they need to succeed. not only that but rose has been fighting raiders for months and im sure the others have been as well idk i dont stalk their war page. why do you think rose never posted an roh on the forums on arrgh? because they arent clowns and they dont need to remind everyone of their presence because they're GOOD and people respect them
yeah most of orbis is dumb
dont waste your breathe.
Damn. Too bad the guys you're sticking up for have never heard your name. Also, I think we've warred more often then that tbh. Gotta make up for the 5 years these other aas got on me ofc.
Just now, Richard Payne III said:Damn. Too bad the guys you're sticking up for have never heard your name. Also, I think we've warred more often then that tbh. Gotta make up for the 5 years these other aas got on me ofc.
I also should say that I promise most of orbis knows my name 😜
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1 hour ago, hope said:
this thread is so fricking pathetic. clowns, all of you.
aku is right in that these types of “wars” can hurt arrgh but we’re talking about competency and im not really sure if tle fits that? idk i dont follow them. arrgh is also right in that it still hurts to sit on a bunch of nations that barely have anything to hit so...
tle will give up in a couple weeks or so and then everyone will move on. making this thread was pointless though, nobody cares
Well the stats have my back on this one. My arrgh post has surpassed all others related to this event, including arrghs own. Yes, it strokes my ego 😎 no, I don't care for the cost to sit on them. As for competence, you said it yourself, you don't follow us. So really you shouldn't even had mentioned competence. However, since you did let me tell you something. Do you think TKR, Rose, Grumpy, T$ or any of the others became "competent" by sitting around not fighting? By laying back and hugging pixels right? Ms. Hope? My members, actually have shown alot of growth in recent months. A ton, and despite personal feelings I think that's the general consensus in Orbis. So, I mean keep sitting back and running your mouth and making yourself look dumb. I'll keep blaring my war horns till my guys are deemed "Competent." Tbh, not far from here.
1 hour ago, Williarsk said:YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!
ARRRGH!!!
Arrgh! We don't want to!
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1 minute ago, Sam Cooper said:
Kinda heartwarming ngl ❤️ Tell them I wish them all good luck.
won't even respond to the question whether I or Arrgh has high enough morale for a war, you should probably retrospect on what (and to whom) you're asking. : )
Haha. At least we are making progress towards a mutually happy war. Arrgh has no shortage of fighters, I just don't think people go to arrgh to be involved in alliance politics. From my 3 years here, arrgh is where you join to keep to yourself and raid.
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1 minute ago, Sam Cooper said:
bruh tf lmao, if you don't want me to respond then maybe don't randomly quote me out of context?
and about my loss :
Markovia losses: (1 nations)
Units:
{SHIP=223, MISSILE=2, TANK=9617, NUKE=2, SOLDIER=916603}
Infra: $30,950,783.34
Consumption:
{GASOLINE=3230.17, MUNITIONS=6628.89}
Loot:
{MONEY=-33371920.00, FOOD=-3349, COAL=-917, OIL=-687, URANIUM=-1040, LEAD=-1982, IRON=-624, BAUXITE=-641, GASOLINE=-2578, MUNITIONS=-2761, STEEL=-6889, ALUMINUM=-3098}
Total:
{MONEY=17688898.34, FOOD=-3349, COAL=-917, OIL=-687, URANIUM=-540, LEAD=-1982, IRON=-624, BAUXITE=-641, GASOLINE=1802.17, MUNITIONS=3867.89, STEEL=4609.50, ALUMINUM=-1398}
Converted Total: $25,528,590.91The Lost Empire, The Lost Legion losses: (12 nations)
Units:
{SHIP=41, AIRCRAFT=372, TANK=10384, SOLDIER=392343}
Infra: $145,435,385.22
Consumption:
{GASOLINE=10756.88, MUNITIONS=13206}
Loot:
{MONEY=33371920.00, FOOD=3349, COAL=917, OIL=687, URANIUM=1040, LEAD=1982, IRON=624, BAUXITE=641, GASOLINE=2578, MUNITIONS=2761, STEEL=6889, ALUMINUM=3098}
Total:
{MONEY=184930060.22, FOOD=3349, COAL=917, OIL=687, URANIUM=1040, LEAD=1982, IRON=624, BAUXITE=641, GASOLINE=13334.88, MUNITIONS=15967.00, STEEL=13311, ALUMINUM=4958}
Converted Total: $352,322,440.22so idk lol.
Lmao, back to the stats. Thats all you got. How about moral? You got any of that? I can show you ours.
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Ho ho ho, I smell fear! Don't worry kosta, they're almost out of supplies to fight.
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1 hour ago, Sam Cooper said:
Genuinely out of curiousity Atlan, what exactly makes you think you can stop Arrgh from raiding you? alliances much better than TLE and far more competent have tried this in past and they all failed, each and every single one of them. 🤷♂️
And since you seem to be getting away with quoting me without proper context, let me set the context and timeline straight for you and for everyone.
The attached screenshot is from a little peace talk we had few days back. "We'll fix it from our end" refers to TLE raids on Arrgh, that's it, and since the Ampersand, a member of Swamp agrees it is okay to hit back in any capacity in response to raids, Idk what Atlan even has to complain about here lol. I countered a TLE raid on Arrgh and the TLE guy tried to bribe me (with just $3m smh) to 'let him go', I said I'd only negotiate with a govt and TLE's last raids on Arrgh would be part of negotiations too, I was later contacted by a TLE govt guy, we pretty much sorted it out. I was then asked to ask my fellow pirates to stop nuking TLE, I asked for an assurance from Atlan that there wouldn't be unprovoked raids from TLE in return, and Atlan tried to make it a fair deal by asking us to stop raiding TLE at all, this offer in a totally unexpected move was rejected by Arrgh (imagine Arrgh not signing an NAP for free with you smh). This is where my statement in screenshot takes place.
So In short, exactly what I said. Double standards, I can raid you but you can't raid me type of thing. This was before you declared war on our M-Level ally though. So I mean pick your reason you have TLE at your door. Yall are so salty, don't act like you haven't lost alot already. I know this hurts you, your replies show it. Keep going arrgh admiralty, I look forward to this conflict not ending as quick as the others.
6 hours ago, Akuryo said:If you can break out then see my prior post about being pinned by competent individuals. Thanks for proving my point though.
Every pirate I've ever ordered counters on has been treated the same, and infact thanks to NPO, all of us have been subject to that same treatment of being blockade cycled and soldiers blasted to Oblivion with the only targets we could actually beige being far past their prime.
I even did it to bluebear for gods sake. I'm having it don't to a mythic guy (coming up on two) as we speak. When done by competent people it's actually rather a pain in the ass, when it's not, it's actually rather humorous when they get beiged. Something we've all experienced, like that time I looted 150m from Polaris while they bounced the bank because some c13 wanted to sit on 43 ships infront of me at 19. 😛
The whole point of operations like this is to punish you by garnishing your income. "I still make profit!" You say as you settle for mediocre targets you'd otherwise not bother with. "You're actually 70m in the hole from what'd you usually make the past 2 or so days" is what I'd retort with. 😛
This is what I've been saying, and I've also said my guys are newish. This conflict will be great training for beige cycling and whatnot. Regardless, we both lose money. The only difference is that we lose more money, while you lose more members and moral. This is a fight, and a money hole I'm willing to dig. Good luck arrgh, maybe your talented FA team can turn this one around (just don't send sam and isjaki) they're the ones that got you into this mess 😅🤣
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7 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said:
Any raider worth spit can and will continue raiding operations with 0 munitions if needs be.
Yes, which is why this war won't harm Arrgh at all: they have complete freedom to use their offensive slots profitably while salty bois make their lives that much easier by filling their defense slots in a predictable and manageable manner.
Tell me how your common arrgh member can raid while being hammered and zeroed on ground. Blockaded and empty of resources. I've already said, arrgh core knows what to do and how to do it, most don't, and will grow very tired of war. They will flake away till leadership decides to turn things around.
On the other hand, my guys like war and have wanted arrghs slots for quite a while. They can last an extended conflict. Enjoy this guys, its for all those times I said no 😘
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2 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said:
Why would raiders need munitions or uranium? Or wouldn't have access to those intrinsically?
From spy reports i can tell you they don't have enough to effectively raid while blockaded and cycled efficiently.
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Just now, Akuryo said:
If you're slotted by idiots sure. If not, then rip.
I'll be happy to see how my guys do 🙂
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4 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said:
Being slotted doesn't mean being unable to raid; if anything it helps 😜
Not when you don't have a ground to fight with. Or munitions, or uranium. Only a matter of time.
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Congrats everyone! Really happy to get this signed! Cheers TCW! 🍻
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Just now, Roberts said:
This is the theme of the whole war so far.
Tfw you can't get his name out of your mouth 🥵
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Just now, Sahina said:
Daymmmn, y'all gonna end Arrgh?
My goal isn't to make people quit or disband. My goal is to make it clear we will respond harshly. Talk about it, be about it.
Just now, Richard Payne III said:Fix it from your end. Seems like i had to initiate that one.
Surprise surprise, when you threaten people with a double standard, please be ready for a reaction.
Now please, continue
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22 minutes ago, Ketya said:
The kind of intangible benefit (in comparison to all the stats and resource topics) of wars is community building:) you guys have a fun group there at TLE, and I am sure you will enjoy the war all together!
Standing ovation Ketya, glad to see you are doing well. Also happy to see some people acknowledge more to the game then stats and pixels. Atlantis misses you 07
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17 minutes ago, Isjaki said:
I wonder if you realize that we can break out of blockades at any time we choose? You can airstrike my non existent units and infra for 4 days. On day 5 I will beige a good target, break out, nuke, missile and deposit. Anyway, your optimism is interesting to observe. Good luck.
You can break your blockades at any moment? Please do then from what my boys are saying, yours aren't in good shape 😂
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11 minutes ago, Azazel said:
I mean yes, the question comes down to if the losses sustained out weigh the benefit. With arrgh that’s really hard to even guesstimate.
Thats the only question. Time will tell.
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30 minutes ago, Kratos said:
When will my fellow orbis friends understand that rolling Arrgh is pointless , they don't have anything of worth that can be rolled or destroyed, anyone who has attempted to do so have wasted their cash,resources,infra & time.
Good luck anyway.
4 minutes ago, Azazel said:That’s actually not exact truth, it’s a half truth. Argh is filled with members who raid to loot. If a alliance were to actually sit on them, the raiders would begin to move on as it’s not profitable. So with arrgh, to “win” against them you have to make it boring and not profitable for a period of time.
edit: however in my time I don’t recall this actually happening.
Exactly
Trying to win a traditional war on arrgh with stats is impossible. Anyone that has brains enough to worry about can see that. The only way to hurt arrgh (not kill, again impossible) is to hurt their way of life, their raiding. What makes them arrgh. If we can blockade and ground dominate them long enough they will start to flake away. The core and idea will always be there, Arrgh will always be there. Perhaps now they will think twice about double standards, and how they communicate with other entities that have far more capabilities then them.
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1 minute ago, Isjaki said:
Time to beige Atlan and his 2.4k infra. Again 😛
Looking forward to it 😂😉
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Walk The Plank (ROH)
The Lost Empire has heard Arrgh's cries for fame. We have heard your loud pirate wailing as our ships broke your hulls. We have witnessed your ships fall before our allies and most of all we have heard your war trumpets as you sail for The Ampersand.
Naturally, our war horns blared 10x louder. Our sails filled with more wind, our oars with fresh power. Our hearts with more passion. We come for you arrgh, and when you make false claims we are ready to defend ours.
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Good luck COTL. Panth is undefeated i hear
Walk The Plank (ROH)
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I will say that you and ripper make valid points, but the thing is most of arrgh isn't that skilled in raiding. So, pretty much what I've said in the last 100 comments. The core with stay pretty well off, while the members start to flake off.