Cincinnatus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI6sARmxEuc
Video above seems oddly relevant given the discussion about numbers of nations on the opposing sides in past conflicts but it is essentially the point at hand.
The general consensus in most of the past conflicts (besides the few Yoso has shown above) was that we (tS, BK, TKR and Mensa) were typically outnumbered in terms of nations. The deciding factor in these wars wasn't the number of nations on either side but instead the number of competent nations on either side who knew how to fight alongside their fellow members and allies.
Our side simply has more of these competent nations found throughout our memberships. This can be attributed to a variety of reasons such as community spirit, alliance leadership structure, alliance policies and so on. Plenty whinging and salt being thrown over this particular point but our surplus of competent nations is simply a result of our own actions and policies.
There is absolutely nothing stopping the likes of NPO, UPN, Rose and so on emulating our side in this regards.
Start to favour quality over quantity and you might begin to see results.
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How does Rose get 16 pages but SK only gets 3
Roq's tears add 10 pages onto any topic.
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Nah, we never reached out for a treaty. We did uphold cordial communications when NPO first started out, including gov-gov channels. We refrained from reaching out beyond that as we hoped NPO would make something outside of the present dynamic happen.
They didn't.
Yeah, I distinctly remember we reached out in some manner to keep relations positive in some manner or fashion but that it didn't go anywhere and here we are.
Yeah, like Auctor said we don't buy this as the reason. You attempted to single NPO out and we know you tried to strike deals with constituent alliances to diminish our support. If it was about Paracovenant, you wouldn't have done so.To be frank, it doesn't matter if you buy it as a reason or not. We have stated our stance and you aren't in a position to do anything about it.
#hardtruths
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Didn't we reach out to NPO only to be rebuffed in favour of our traditional enemies?
Associates with enemies, acts like an enemy, signs treaty with enemies. Usually is an enemy in my book.
If you didn't want to be viewed as an enemy, don't associate yourselves with our enemies and then whinge about it when you are treated as such.
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I'm just responding to him with the same vitriol he usually employs. Just I've seen the same post a few times as he's made it in several topics. I'm just having fun with his whole "oh I know what's best for Paracovenant alliances because I'm on the winning side and particularly NPO because I have an axe to grind" shtick.
An axe? Don't give yourself too much credit. All I need is a couch so I can sit my rear end on it and watch you flailing around looking for someone else to blame for your own failings
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Breaking news, Charles: No one cares what you think. You contribute nothing constructive to any discussion and are a pompous blowhard no one takes seriously. Even some of your own alliancemates are annoyed by you.
I get you're high off of being a big nation here and a winner, but your inferiority complex oozes out. The bragadoccio is charming. pretty much it seems like everyone who is like you gets intoxicated off winning in a game for a change of pace. You Holton, Eumir, and the list just goes on. I love how you guys constantly prove me right.
Maybe when you finally lose enough times, you can rogue out and delete here too?
Your assessment of our leadership has never mattered.
Even some of your own alliancemates are annoyed by you.
I am totally shocked by this, I thought I was loved by everyone and respected by most of my fellow alliance buddies. It is most hurtful to find out that by having an opinion I might annoy a few people. Thank you for bringing this to my attention roq, I will make it a mission now to find out who these people are who are annoyed by me so I can go back to not really giving a shit
And lolroq, for someone who blames (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) for the reason he keeps getting rolled, you just love to keep mentioning it here when the truth of the matter is you are the only person who cares about (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Or cares enough about it to use it as an excuse for why he keeps failing in this game. Either one works so feel free to keep ranting about either.
You are right though, my assessment of your leadership doesn't matter. What matters is how your own membership assesses your leadership. Or lack of it.
get you're high off of being a big nation here and a winner, but your inferiority complex oozes out.
Actually, I reckon these people who I do annoy only tolerate me because I am a winner. If my damage stats weren't as consistently high as they usually are I predict I would be expelled instantly
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In all truth though, NPO's leadership should resign. That or NPO's membership should appoint new leaders or vote with their feet.
Appoint new and responsible leadership who won't sign treaties with terrible allies who get you rolled every 3 months.
It is rather amusing to see these so called "leaders" refuse to take any responsibility for their own failings and instead deflect all responsibility to the winning side but I do pity the NPO membership in possessing such a reckless leadership who refuse to even acknowledge the concept of responsible governance.
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IF NPO's leadership wishes to keep fighting then let them, by all means allow them to keep digging their own grave.
It is after all NPO's leadership who will have to answer to their membership at the end of the day.
Oh wait, I forgot, this is NPO we are speaking about. Drones gotta be dronish and accept their terrible leadership without having much say in the matter.
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Nah, it's hillarious how much effort you guys have to put on Alpha because Mi6 is salty about (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways).
Stop drinking Roq's Kool-Aid.
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They do
Do tell.
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"won"
Yet Alpha and every single one of their allies surrendered all the same.
Funny that.
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I dont see the skill in TS having more people with less IRL work than NPO (Which is majority 18 + and has to do work and stuff) or UPN. (Ime there were like a ton of senior/colledge people there and PW isnt worth studying).
This is just precious
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It's almost like no one in this game utilises hyperbolic license for recruitment purposes except us. Who would have thought...
Does the use of hyperbole also apply to constant repetition of the game allegedly being imbalanced?
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What would've been better for this war? Alpha with 300 nukes in this war or Alpha with 0 nukes and no NRF's? You won't answer this because you know tactically nukes have their place in this game. And you do realize that most of tS's upper tier has a NRF right?
You think Alpha was my first alliance? First off, we didn't get so many nukes until I realized your side was going to target us in the most epic amount of butthurt I've ever seen in any games I've played. When Rose/VE dropped us we went into full nuke stockpile mode. Until like 2 days before the war, getting dogpiled was all we thought would happen, but were asked to try conventionally and we were initially successful on Mensa as evidenced by your chart, despite Fark/Alpha being smaller than Mensa. Then ALPHA DOGPILE 2.0 happened. And I was 100% right.
Now, I'll educate you on my past, b/c you seem to think I've only been playing 6 months.
Did Alpha nuke UPN when we hit him with Guardian?
Did Alpha nuke SK when we hit them with a little help from VE?
I was even in Guardian fighting conventionally. I was always asked to hit the top alliance's target(s). And I did.
You talk tough, but you rely on the dogpile and then act like we are stupid for not being able to defend 3 defensive wars. That is plainly ridiculous. You lost your first war due to losing the political war. It happens. I've picked my allies and I'm happy with them. Even if they lead me into a losing war.
I'm not going to be a !@#$ TLF and abandon my allies. Nor am I going to be a Pantheon who sticks by allies who dilberatley let it get rolled because my other allies matter more. Screw that. I'll take the loss every !@#$ time if it means I have to sell out to get a victory like so many alliances have done switching sides. If that makes me bad at politics, I can live with that.
Common mindset in tS is actually along the lines of "we have these nuke projects that we never use, wish we could swap it but we spent so much $ on it so we will just keep them anyway".
I got rid of mine a couple months back, never used it or even had an opportunity where using it was optimal.
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It really isn't, they are terrible.
I was trying to be nice
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You guys like to play up the skill level, but it's really more so about activity and getting people to declare wars. The having people to declare wars is basically what politics is all about. Skill only matters if you have equal sides, and we'll never have a war like that. No one will ever let it happen. In the end, at this point it won't matter, the interest in this game is already starting to drop off.
Mensa making topics like these to squash even the smallest chance of damage will only make things worse. You can't really say "nukes are stupid and don't matter" while also saying "nukes are soooo important we need to make a special "league" about destroying them". Can't have it both ways, imo.
The irony is Mensa isn't the alliance that will ever take many nukes because they keep their cities small. So not sure why they feel they need to be the hegemonic driving force behind this.
This is why your sphere loses constantly.
Has been numerous occasions when skill for the outnumbered side was a winning factor (for our side anyway).
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Ugh, NPO had been involved in 1 alliance war when I made the poll. How on earth could anyone know if they were good fighters or not?
Jury is still out on that one.
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Could probably make a similar meme for the amount of times Roq accuses everyone of rolling NPO because of (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) shenanigans.
Dear Roq, nobody but you cares about (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Move on.
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The real kicker is when we reveal that The Syndicate has been Pacifica all along.
NPO is the bastard child of Syndicate after all.
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That's an OOC attack
You are starting to sound like Roq now
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I actually like this, it is pretty great!. Would you mind if I use it on my forum profile?
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I don't think I said we were giving up on PW because of the political situation and the "defeatist" rhetoric largely surrounds the fact that a lot of people in the Orbis community do feel it's pretty unbalanced and stagnant and that military dominance by a particular grouping is incontestable. The political dynamism and interesting nature of the game's politics many tout it having isn't there. We're not going turn that around with new nations, tbqh though having more people makes us stronger. But yeah, all "prevailing" entails is maintaining a strong cohesive group in the face of circumstances we come across. It doesn't imply military or material supremacy, which it is obvious we cannot achieve from as far behind the other major alliances as we are. There isn't really a contradiction here.
idk why I took the bait here since I don't have a lot of interest in becoming further absorbed in back and forths here and the language in the recruitment thread is intentionally grandiose. Just enjoy your world and we'll continue trying to live in it while we deem it worthwhile.
That's nice and all but you need to read your own announcements by the sounds of it.
"Another world that will fall to Francoism" sounds oddly different from the "Oh noes, we keep losing, game must be imbalanced!"
Come on Roq, you can do better than this. At least I hope you can
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Was wondering when Avakael would notice it. lmbo
like Kastor said, good try at spinning this.
That's all I'm going to say.
No one is spinning and no one is actually concerned with your recruitment efforts. Indeed, Pacifica needs all the help it can get by the looks of things so I wish you good luck with your recruitment efforts.
What we are amused by however is the defeatist language typically employed on this forum vs the grandiose "Pacifica shall prevail" rhetoric plastered on NPO's home forums.
Which one is it Roq, is the game imbalanced or are we all just engaged in "a hilarious endeavor" ?
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There has been plenty mention lately of this game being imbalanced and how all the competent nations are on one side beating up all the incompetent nations on the other. Any reasonable person capable of rational thought knows this to be well, precisely what it is, a pile of nonsense. This game is not imbalanced at all...
Or so I thought...Oh how wrong I was.
This game is highly imbalanced although not in the manner which the likes of NPO, UPN, Rose and so on would like you to believe.
It is imbalanced due to the sheer gargantuan size of the ridiculous egos found throughout the paracov sphere who on one hand flood this very forum with claims of how the "competent side" is ruining the game and how this is the last war capable of balancing the game and how they have no possible chance of defeating BK, TKR, Syndicate, Mensa and other allies after this war.
And then they post this.
Apparently the game can't be too imbalanced at all if all we are doing is and I quote "a hilarious endeavor".
Roq, you can now begin playing your victim card
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Rose's Surrender
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Posted · Edited by Night King
Well you can't have it both ways. You can't complain about having an inactive bloated alliance incapable of achieving results and then simultaneously complain about having to implement measures to rectify this. You either stick with the bloated and inactive membership or take a gamble and kick the dead weight and impose some higher standards.
You wouldn't need an influx of new members in order for it to work and you don't need a large membership either in order to become competent. It just takes some hard work and a genuine drive to succeed coupled with competent leadership. Such notions naturally attract more competent and experienced members. The perfect example of this being naturally TEst.
If UPN wants to keep their community alive and not lose members as a result of losing wars constantly...then stop making silly decisions which lead to you losing war after war. No one is forcing you to continuously attack the same coalition over and over again, UPN's and paracov's leadership in general need to start taking responsibility for their own decisions.
Do you really think tS' gov members would still be in gov if they had the same track record of continuously losing wars for decisions they made and refused to take responsibility for the aforementioned decisions? They would have been forced to step down or have the alliance vote with their feet long ago if they had. If we had lost the massive gamble that was the last war when we basically pulled a leeroy jenkins inspired attack then heads would have rolled.
To be frank, I don't really need to inform UPN about this since I am pretty much preaching to the choir when it comes to telling UPN about members voting with their feet given the decline in membership since the last war.