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    The Moment You Have All Been Waiting For

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Adam Deering

     I believe that the CC idea was ahead of its time, and has indeed fallen flat on its face. BoC made a mistake as to how we chose to run the CC, a mistake we aim to correct. However, I would like to bring some things into the light. Every story has two sides, and not everything in this story is how ESA Fleet Admiral, Speaker, has made it out to be.

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    Speaker claimed that the threat of being attacked was not real, that GR and Arrgh would not have attacked. Had Psycho been anyone else, he would have simply taken those threats as an ESA DoW and attacked. If you think a war with GR and Arrgh was not a threat, then you are simply wrong. Time and time again we have stuck our necks out for you, and yet when there was a mess to clean up, you abandoned us.

     

    However, these are nothing but words and words have been proven to be meaningless to you, Speaker. As I stated earlier, BoC aims to fix this mistake known as the CC, and to remind those that think we are afraid of war, that we are not. We started the CC, and now we shall end it.

     

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    It is at this time, February 28, 2015, the Brotherhood of the Clouds Declares War against the Earth System Alliances for its hypocrisy, disloyalty, insulting attitude, and appalling behavior. Our war against ESA is justified for many reasons, of which we shall present only the most important:

     

    1: Speaker overstepped his power more than we did and bragged about it; quitting because of what we did is therefore an enormous display of hypocrisy. 

     

    2: What we did do, we did to save his member.  Cynic messaged Ashland informing him that Snailmun had sent a threatening message and that he would attack Snailmun. In order to avoid ESA’s member being attacked for a mistake, BoC made the call and posted the amendment. (which had already been agreed to and, indeed, proposed by Speaker) He left us to deal with a mess that had been at least one third his fault because we made the mistake of sticking up for our ally’s member.

     

    3: Speaker was incredibly condescending and foul-spirited toward BoC and UST.

     

    4: He insulted us on numerous occasions.

     

    Evidence:

    1: http://prntscr.com/6b792k  (Note The Speaker bragging about overstepping his authority without the Council’s authorization)

     

    2:  From #BoC, one of many times we have received word of Speaker calling us cowards behind our backs.

     

    [02:05] <Keegoz> They usually take all criticism extremely badly

    [02:05] <Keegoz> And seem to treat the community with little respect

    [02:06] <Cynic|afk> Im already winning

    [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) Yeah, well the way I look at it - ESA stands by our words and we work to enforce our word, that is the type of alliance we are.

    [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) I know BoC and UST are wary of wars that is something we don't see eye to eye on in this bloc - but its something we are working to change.

    [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) So, if it was a vote war or remove the amendment - this whole ordeal would play out in your favor

     

    3: From Query with Cynic|AFK

     

    [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Hi. I'm Snailmun. I'm sure you've already been contacted by a member of my alliance. Probably The Speaker. Anyways, he probably made a polite yet forceful request that you move your alliance off of white. You probably aren't going to comply. Well now it's my turn. My alliance does not know I'm contacting you, except for a select few. I'll make this very clear. This is a threat. I have several people in my alliance that plan on

    [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Your friendly neighborhood warmongerer,

    [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Snailmun

     

     

     
     
    I cut up the DoW so I could take a look at a few parts. The first section: You stated that you created the CC? If I remember correctly it was a collective group from all 3 Alliances that drafted the initial Articles. Also we all COLLECTIVELY agreed to create this Council that would rule under DEMOCRATIC standards. Also I would really like to see how your story differs from ours. Section 2: Snailmun had been a member of ESA for max 4-6 hours. He was a small insignificant nation that had no power even on his own. I doubt anyone with a half a brain would declare over that. Also I am not going to say that a war with GR and Arrgh was a no possibility it was very much a threat and we acknowledged that. Again you didn't start the CC it was collective. Also what mess? White was peaceful until YOU declared war on us. Section 3: I don't remember TS ever overstepping his boundaries, maybe you misinterpreted him getting angry at the lack of process as him asserting dominance but progress would have been positive for the collective. Secondly he was just stating facts, you guys were infact war wary on this occasion he even said that it would have worked out in Cynic's favor, no war. Thirdly, AGAIN Snailmun was no threat and anyone with two brain cells to clink together would have seen that. Really sick CB LF really makes sense.    

    Raise the minimum wage?

    in General Debate

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    I believe that they have the right to a minimum wage but it should not be  what is being demanded by workers. I think that the Presidents plan of raising minimum wage to 11$ by 2017. It should not be something like 15-16$ because then the companies will have to cut either the quality of the product in order to pay wages or lay people off to cut down on operating costs. I think we should find what it would take to have someone make just enough money to live in middle poverty and give them that figure. Also I might add that I am a strong Republican siding with the president on an issue.  

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