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I asked about his age because most people are drawn into wahhabism from a young age because at that age, certainties appeal. The same way neo-nazi groups recruit.

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I wasn't "born into" any religion. Family is supposedly a Catholic one however my father's mother was a Jehovah's Witness so it (Catholicism) never took root with my parents (my mother had terrible parents and is closer to my father's mother), and the Jehovah's Witness sect wasn't attractive to them. 

Ultimately I was able to make my own choice and I chose based on logical thinking that agnosticism was the best choice for me. Knowing some JW due to that family connection did mean I did actually get tutored by one at a young age but that was just general study and such. I recall when he went away to Spain (and thus could no longer continue) he bought me a gift of a game he knew I wanted that had demons and other such things. He chuckled at the fact he bought a game about demons considering his faith but it was all cool. 

 

So nothing in my childhood ever got me to convert but it made me take a more positive outlook on groups like JWs and Mormons (who I've also had a good experience with). 

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I'm 13. I don't see why there should be an age limit.

 

Say 10 years later if you look back, you will understand why age matters. I'm not saying someone who is older than you will be wiser, but you will get more exposure to different ideas as you grow up.

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My family was Christian, mostly due to my father's influence, but slowly we became atheist. I do not regret that conversion. It feels as though a veil has been lifted.

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Say 10 years later if you look back, you will understand why age matters. I'm not saying someone who is older than you will be wiser, but you will get more exposure to different ideas as you grow up.

I cringe when I read stuff I wrote when I was 18 nevermind 13. Not saying people's opinions shouldn't be valid just because they're young, or that people shouldn't explore things intellectually. Just keep an open mind.

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well keep on topic

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I never grew up really religious at all, if anything I was agnostic. I was never forced into any religion or raised in any religion, I did end up going to church a few times but I stopped going just because I didn't want to. 

When I was 13 or 14 I hit a spiritual peak and started researching lots of religions and belief systems, I took bits and pieces of each belief system and formed my own.
That worked for awhile but it didn't suit me, I eventually gravitated to Christianity.

I understand that a majority of people are raised into Christianity but I wasn't, I actually got to choose. 

 

I still agree with a lot of religions on some things but my heart lies with Christianity.

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I was born and baptized as a Lutheran (ELCA). I would say I am religious but I keep my faith to my self, unless people approach me about my faith. I would said late in high school I did read Marx, Locke, Voltaire, and many more. Reading outside my confront my zone did make me question my world view, ironically it was my Pastor who encourage me to do this. Once in college, I took a Philosophy and Religion class, which made want to explore other faiths but more importantly I learned that I could blend beliefs. My professor for the class was Jewish and Buddhist. I went to a Jewish Temple, a Sunni and Shia Mosque, Every Buddhist temple I could find, and even other Christian Churches. Nothing really satisfy me spiritually. So in the end I am still a Lutheran but I don't reject science, I respect others belief system (I tend to avoid hedonist), blending some Buddhist beliefs into my own.      

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Talking about how people's world view/religion changes as they mature is on topic. 

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Was born Christian (Catholic), stayed that way til middle school where I started realizing all of the negative aspects, such as it's view on homosexuality and the fact that the whole religion is based on whether or not God will punish you for simple human instincts. It all started sounding absurd to me, but I still had a belief in God. For a while, I simply considered myself a theist, unconstrained by any religious doctrine. I started studying old pagan religions and became quite interested in Satanism. 

Several years go by and I slowly become agnostic, leaning towards atheism. Then I start reading about pantheism, Yin-Yang and then the Tao Te Ching. Combined with the love I already had for cosmology, the universe, and the skepticism I had gained about arbitrary dichotomies from Satanism, I was instantly intrigued. The Tao seemed to sum up everything I had concluded, but could never seem to put into words. 

And here I am.

 

I  was born a sufi with sufi family but i am now a salafist

Sufi's are cooler. 

 

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I was born to one of the most hated nations in the world (and I'm not going to mention its name in public, ever). Never knowing if my state is a democracy or a teocracy, I was always atheist, and when people told me I'm a member of their religion, I denied it hatredfully (at least in my heart). My family is mostly secular, and so do I. I believed in a supernatural power only when I was an innocent child, as an influence from society, but when I began developing Individuality I become spiritual- one who searches for a higher meaning beyond the taken-for-granted, however not religious.

 

Sometimes it's hard to be a complete atheist in a society religion is one of its primary sources of existance, say g-d name in public and in the various types of culture and music. When the news I watch present an external perspective of my communal religion, I feel ashamed of myself being born to a sort of hermit kingdom and a sociocentric society who is very superstitious and I may even claim- quite primitive, while most of the world is christian, islamic, etc.

 

I feel as if I would need to hide my social/religious/national background just to blend in with those who are beyond my land, and therfore sorry for not being born elsewhere, in a place that is not viewed so horribly, like wearing a mask. 

 

For me, religion will always be a sorrowful thing to confess about and to be discussed in public, not due to its moralistic, higher meaning but due to sterotypes and others lack of accaptance and tolerance.

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I was born in to a muslim family. My mother is fairly religious, but I guess it has a lot to do with moving to a completely different country where she knew no one and didn't know the language. You kinda turn to religion in those cases.

 

I've never been religious. I was more practising when I was younger but diverting from my straight edge life and all of that has made me feel a lot more ambivalent. So I guess you could say I'm an agnostic. There's a lot of elements to Islam I still respect, like ramanda and zakat, which makes me not want to shun religion in its entirety.

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I was born to one of the most hated nations in the world (and I'm not going to mention its name in public, ever).

 

You mean you're American then....

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Well, I was born Catholic. I was very religious until about 4 years ago when I started not giving a shit about religion. Shortly after, I became antitheist. I hated everything remotely related to religion and would hate it when we went to church. I couldn't say no, of course, since they (my parents) never knew about my antitheism.

Everything changed, however, when something happened to us 2 years ago (I won't tell what it is, telling it again is very painful), and I started my path back to the Church. I reflected every day, and once I was ready to accept religion back into my life, I started praying the rosary two times a day. When I went back to the local parish, I was overcome with emotion and nearly broke down in tears.

 

And here I am, currently a devout (yet liberal) Catholic.

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I was raised Lutheran, after the Lutheran Guilt became overwhelming I went atheist, when my life still required meaning the Methodists gave me a home. I would still call myself a Methodist, but I have issues with organized religion and don't trust Bishops of any stripe.

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My family isn't very religious and I've been relatively ambivalent about religion for most of my life.  To be honest any firm beliefs that cause you to become inflexible in the face of facts can harm you and society, and that isn't just limited to religion but also politics, economics or even nutrition.  Anti-vaxxers who cause kids to die of preventable diseases are just as bad as fundamentalist crazy people executing people for "sorcery", or weird diet books that kill people.

 

The reason why religions, or the Dr. Oz Show, or Oprah, or political ideologies exist is because most people are terrified of the idea of navigating the world, in all it's chaotic and complicated and incomprehensible random cruelty and inhumanity.  It's too hard.   Oprah, religion or becoming a libertarian or a communist is the escape from reality, they provide easy answers that "make sense".  The world doesn't make sense though, it never has.  If you have joined any sort of organization that has a plan for solving all the worlds problems and that plan is less than 1000 pages long, you are living a lie.

 

In that sense, my family wasn't religious but they might as well have been, since their religion was old school Socialism and that batch of simple answers on my mothers side of the family, and on my fathers side of the family was more Anglican fatalism and their religion of "good things happen to good people", which is basically the definition of very religious people, even if they almost never attended church.

 

I am not religious, nor am I belief-ist.  Life is hard, the world is cruel and uncaring, and in a few billion years the sun will go nova and any trace we ever existed will be vaporized.

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I don't know why anyone is concerned about the world ending, I hear this a lot. When you do any activity - watching a film, reading a book, playing a game of football, going on a night out - it ends at some point. The idea is to enjoy it whilst you're there. I don't mean to sound hopelessly optimistic, but there's a lot about life to enjoy and the trap most people fall into is to worship mediocrity and aim low. The second biggest trap people fall into is to judge their happiness and success in material terms.

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Its O.K. we know it is Sweden.

 

France?

 

Dunno, that's one of the most hated in Britain.

 

Maybe... Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Uh... North Korea? Hm... Libya? Israel? Iraq? Iran?

 

You mean you're American then....

 

Sorry. My privacy, reputation and security is too important to express my national and religious background :/

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