Dimitri Valko Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 We perceived tS as a threat to our security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Armstrong Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Well, I respect TC for taking action. Silly that it took VE sucking UPN's dick to get it up but whatever it takes, I guess. When you are behaving without honor. Then what right do you have to talk about honour. If you are so honourable. Then plotting to hit Tc wouldnt have happen at the first place. Is so shameful to complain all day long about others when is time for you to face karma for your past action Vincent, you are one of the most reknowned deserters in Orbis. Your allegiance is to your pixels above all else. Before questioning the honor of others take a look at your past actions. How many alliances have you joined and then fled on the eve of war? How many unplanned "vacations" have you taken using vacation mode instead of fighting? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Attacking them would have helped Rose, which at the time was not in our best interest. Seems like you have a problem with UPN. You want to paint UPN and TC as evil entities, using our large numbers to beat down our opponents. SK, TeST and tS are not helpless innocent alliances. SK ruled the game beating down enemies through the Marionette Wars, TeST joins the winning sides of war to add insult to injury, and after tS's attempt to attack TC failed, they declared war on their former bloc mate. You are going to defend these alliances? None of this is going to sway anyone's opinions, merely rhetoric. We perceived tS as a threat to our security. The lines we beginning to be drawn and choose to fight it on our terms not theirs, this was a war that was coming, we accelerated the process. Edit: Grammar I have no problem with UPN, except for its members using tS's past as an excuse to attack an alliance. War os great, its great for the game, so i'm not upset or disappointed by y'all causing a war, but please, give the actual reasons instead of hiding behind a cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Meanwhile in Paragon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Mustang Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Meanwhile in Paragon... This must all be a very eye-opening experience for members of Paragon. I'm sorry this is the way y'all had to find out, it's messy as all get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valakias Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 This must all be a very eye-opening experience for members of Paragon. I'm sorry this is the way y'all had to find out, it's messy as all get out. Inb4 Impero spins it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Inb4 Impero spins it again Did someone mention Impero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 You guys should just get along you know? If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a roll. There is one you will follow. One who is the shining star, and he will lead you to beautiful places in the search of his own vanity. And when there is no more vanity to be found, he will leave you in darkness, as a fading memory of his own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 You guys should just get along you know? That was the plan everytime and then we get hit. Lel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatkitteh Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The flamewar is bigger than the actual war. 2 :sheepy: :sheepy: Greatkitteh was here.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The flamewar is bigger than the actual war. Just like in both wars though, this is going to hurt them both. 1 [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Well, I respect TC for taking action. Silly that it took VE sucking UPN's dick to get it up but whatever it takes, I guess. That's pretty uncalled for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alataq Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 is this gonna go 20 pages plus? i'm actually interested now Likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It's gonna go for more then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I'm just here to add some valuable insight to the thread I'm just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Onwards to 20 pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So how are UPN's teeth? Cause from the way we've seen it they've been kicked in. The Moon Rider has Arrived [00:55] <@Lyro> the world is a gaybar son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So how are UPN's teeth? Cause from the way we've seen it they've been kicked in.I guess we were a threat? One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2004 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I don't understand why people jump to the defence of SK and TEst even when they have treaties with us. These are alliances that exist to cause chaos and dominate through wars, while I don't think being the aggressor was the best choice for UPN but we only made the inevitable happen much more quickly - so how about you stop defending them and read up on what SK did in the Great VE war and how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning. Edited October 20, 2015 by Matt2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I don't understand why people jump to the defence of SK and TEst. These are alliances that exist to cause chaos and dominate through wars, while I don't think being the aggressor was the best choice for UPN but we only made the inevitable happen much more quickly - so how about you stop defending them and read up on what SK did in the Great VE war and how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning. Because they are obligated via treaty or have personal friendship with them? Ayyyyy lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapsie Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Because they are obligated via treaty or have personal friendship with them? Ayyyyy lmao ayyy We have seized the means of production. Though union, and self-governance, we have organized between all peoples of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valakias Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I don't understand why people jump to the defence of SK and TEst. These are alliances that exist to cause chaos and dominate through wars, while I don't think being the aggressor was the best choice for UPN but we only made the inevitable happen much more quickly - so how about you stop defending them and read up on what SK did in the Great VE war and how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning. I think you are being fed too much propaganda by your gov, you might want to switch down the tv sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I don't understand why people jump to the defence of SK and TEst. These are alliances that exist to cause chaos and dominate through wars, while I don't think being the aggressor was the best choice for UPN but we only made the inevitable happen much more quickly - so how about you stop defending them and read up on what SK did in the Great VE war and how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning. Those wars have little to do with this war. You did not 'make the inevitable happen'. You made a conscious decision to turn the leaks into a self-fulfilling prophecy. The likelyhood of an eventual showdown between tS and UPN existed due to the leaks. You decided to turn that into an inevitability by refusing our attempts at normalizing relations, and by instead waiting for us to be at our weakest (following a large war) to strike, stabbing various direct and indirect allies in the back in the process. This is a war of occupation, designed to enhance the dominance which your bloc already had. Unfortunately, you underestimated the backlash your move would garner. This one rests solely on your government. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I don't understand why people jump to the defence of SK and TEst. These are alliances that exist to cause chaos and dominate through wars, while I don't think being the aggressor was the best choice for UPN but we only made the inevitable happen much more quickly - so how about you stop defending them and read up on what SK did in the Great VE war and how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning.Probably has something to do with UPN being completely in the wrong here. I'm all for gray areas but this is pretty black and white. 4 One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 how TEst only sided with VE because they were winning. This is factually incorrect, you might want to get the correct information before you speak again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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