Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted August 7, 2015 Wiki Mod Share Posted August 7, 2015 An advanced research firm in the nation of Reasonable Logic has recently developed a technology that allows for the complete replacement of a human's memories, thoughts, & personality. In short everything that defines a person. Some have suggested the use of this new technology as a new "humane" form of capital punishment. Under the proposed system condemned criminals would be "wiped", a new personality would be "installed" & then sent out to serve the community they had harmed. Proponents argue that current forms of capital are little more then legal murder & that this system requires no further loss of life. However, many oppose it saying that destroying someone's personality is no different then killing them. Opponents further argue that in addition to having now killed someone you have created what is essentially a slave & a victim as the former criminal will likely never be accepted into society. Quote 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 This is less ethical than normal capital punishment. At least then the guilty party retains their sense of self until death. Effectively killing someone but gaining a re-programmable body in the process is less ethical. Not to mention the potential for serious miscarriages of justice due to the demand for programmed workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 If a person has these things taken from them than you assume the problem will be corrected? A lion, even raised in captivity will have a taste for blood and the hunt. A sexual predator will always want it even if they don't know why. People are not the product of anything except our choices. Here is a thought, don't do the crime unless you are happy to do the punishment. You want to save on prison expenses and "reeducation"? Bullets are cheap. A dog that bites and gives a kid a scar on their leg is put down, even if it only bites once. Why should a murderer or sexual predator who leaves life long scars be aloud any kind of sympathy or even be given human rights? I pity the !@#$ who touches my kids or wife. Jail won't be his option. As BoC knows, I would remember that guy forever and go to jail to meet him there. Just saying 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willam von Waldreich Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Its a slippery slope, first we use the technology to reprogram the criminal, but what is to stop said technology from being used against the populace in some form and turns the average day citizen into a mindless zombie of sorts. I do not deny the technology has its positive possibilities...but one thing I have learned is that no matter the positive purpose of the technology there is always someone out there willing to use it for negative purposes. Quote The United States of Belveria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesir Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Oh the power to tamper with the human mind... Yeah let's not give that to the government... Quote Art by Faroreswind159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) All I kind of think of is a mix of "Total Recall" and "Demolition Man". Edited August 7, 2015 by Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Ryan Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Excellent idea. Definitely a starting point towards an unquestionably loyal standing army and populace. +1 Quote Me ne frego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBunny Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I want to go to Total Recall too!!!!! Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Oh the power to tamper with the human mind... Yeah let's not give that to the government... Brb handing to to the feds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Death penalty is more humane than turning someone into a Zombie slave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Screw being "humane". Just go back to the old ways of bread and water for food and make criminals do heavy labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Screw being "humane". Just go back to the old ways of bread and water for food and make criminals do heavy labor. Bread and water? In the olden days it was a sword and a block of wood for the criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Or just do what the guards did in the upstate New York prison. Not for that reason though. http://www.legislativegazette.com/Articles-Top-Stories-c-2015-08-17-92747.113122-Some-prisoners-say-they-were-beaten-after-Dannemora-escape.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Wasn't this the plot to an episode of Babylon 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hysteria Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Death penalty is more humane than turning someone into a Zombie slave. The Death Penalty is in no way Humane and the state should be held to a higher standard for punishing criminals. Also there is no cure for adult Psychopathy known today. I would be in favor for use in people that meet all or most of the criteria needed to be a Psychopath. Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Like I said, screw being humane. Once someone kills someone, they aren't human. Once they torture or make someone suffer they aren't human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Like I said, screw being humane. Once someone kills someone, they aren't human. Once they torture or make someone suffer they aren't human. Sword and block of wood *high five*? Death Penalty = Prevents Crime, but it should be done the tried and tested way. No injection BS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sword and block of wood *high five*? Death Penalty = Prevents Crime, but it should be done the tried and tested way. No injection BS! Yes, must be slow and painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yes, must be slow and painful. Slow and painful you say? Then a sword won't cut it... no pun intended. You will need a butter knife Butter Knife Execution *high five*? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think that eradicating someone's memories is unethical. The goal of the criminal justice system should be to rehabilitate person, not make them into whatever society sees suitable. A truly rehabilitated person makes a conscious choice to become a better person and follow the norms of society. Under your scenario the person would not be able to learn anything. The greatest travesty is that eradicating a person's thoughts and memories would not give them the opportunity to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think that eradicating someone's memories is unethical. The goal of the criminal justice system should be to rehabilitate person, not make them into whatever society sees suitable. A truly rehabilitated person makes a conscious choice to become a better person and follow the norms of society. Under your scenario the person would not be able to learn anything. The greatest travesty is that eradicating a person's thoughts and memories would not give them the opportunity to grow. The primary function and goal of the criminal justice system is to PREVENT crime, everything else is secondary, but I agree with you about wiping someone's memories. I would rather be executed than to disappear knowing that my body will be walking around like a zombie with stuff programmed into what used to be my brain. I highly doubt this will ever be possible anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Slow and painful you say? Then a sword won't cut it... no pun intended. You will need a butter knife Butter Knife Execution *high five*? A lot of butter knifes. That would work. #Butter Knife Execution Edited August 18, 2015 by Vladimir Zhogin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 This seems a little less humane than the plot of PsychoPass. Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Wasn't this the plot to an episode of Babylon 5? Multiple episodes, it was a recurring debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 This seems a little less humane than the plot of PsychoPass. Again, SCREW BEING HUMANE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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