Jump to content

Should Pornography Be Banned?


Guest hawkeye
 Share

Recommended Posts

Why are we even talking about this. I mean the answer is obvious.

Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a Feminist and a former sex worker I believe that a ban of pornography would be a very bad thing. Unless you are talking about banning say Revenge porn or porn tube sites.

Yeah revenge porn is horrible and should be prosecuted.

  • Upvote 1

Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

All these threads lately make me think of something that was said in one of my favorite movies.....The Crow. "Jesus walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper 3 nails and he asks.....can you put me up for the night"?

  • Upvote 1

X4EfkAB.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah revenge porn is horrible and should be prosecuted.

 

As a Feminist and a former sex worker I believe that a ban of pornography would be a very bad thing. Unless you are talking about banning say Revenge porn or porn tube sites.

I concur to these. These are reasonable. 

:wub: -removed by thor- :wub:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If porn viewership and masturbation are so necessary to good health, then how did men of the past not suffer from all these "infections" and such that you mention? I am certainly not denying these studies have found benefit in such practices, but I am very skeptical of your claim that it is unhealthy not to do so. Or at least not nearly to the extent that you would have it seem. I also just turned 18 and have never done that before, and I don't suffer from any strange infections or symptoms, nor am I sexually "aggressive" in any way. I don't think those things are necessary in any sense of the word.

 

As for the second part, I am speaking quite honestly when I say I have not. I'm open-minded when it comes to what other people do - generally I don't care - but I am very strict about what I allow myself to do, and that is one of my personal taboos. Similarly, the only time I have verbally uttered any swear word was when I saw the f-word scratched on a bathroom stall in third grade, and asked what it meant when I got home. Simply because things like pornography - or swearing, masturbating, trying pot, whatever -  are commonplace does not mean they are universal habits.

 

Edit: In case that seemed rather pointless, what I'm trying to indicate is that things like pornography aren't simply natural and necessary for reproductive health. While they are common, there are plenty of people who do not view/practice those things and are not in any unhealthy condition, not to mention that the majority of people in the world don't have access to pornography and similarly lack any reason to masturbate. Pornography is much more well known for producing sex and porn addictions and for causing significant friction in established relationships and families than it is for producing any effects that are more beneficial than not watching it. Once again, I don't think it is anything within the rightful jurisdiction of the government - but to say that it is beneficial is highly misleading, because in fact it can become a very addictive and problematic habit.

 

Are you implying "men of the past" didn't masturbate? In western society it was done with little issue until talk of sin and harm got attached to it with little in the way of evidence. 

Those against it are either influenced by religious or Victorian thinking.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Britain does have stricter laws regarding things related to pornography, so I wouldn't doubt it.

 

 

If porn viewership and masturbation are so necessary to good health, then how did men of the past not suffer from all these "infections" and such that you mention? I am certainly not denying these studies have found benefit in such practices, but I am very skeptical of your claim that it is unhealthy not to do so. Or at least not nearly to the extent that you would have it seem. I also just turned 18 and have never done that before, and I don't suffer from any strange infections or symptoms, nor am I sexually "aggressive" in any way. I don't think those things are necessary in any sense of the word.

I hate it when people get arrested even though they didn't do anything illegal. !@#$ Britain. Then the damn guy who hit down my cousin's mailbox walks away, even though that he clearly committed property damage. 

 

There is this ancient technology called magazines. I'm not saying that I agree with him (or disagree), but magazines did exist. (Personally, I see no difference)

Edited by WISD0MTREE

NODOLsmall.png.a7aa9c0a05fa266425cd7e83d8ccb3dd.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Banning porn is impossible as most of the internet is dedicated to it and it would take time and manpower that the government doesn't have to spend on such trivial issues.

  • Upvote 1

Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Are you implying "men of the past" didn't masturbate? In western society it was done with little issue until talk of sin and harm got attached to it with little in the way of evidence. 

Those against it are either influenced by religious or Victorian thinking.

No, I'm implying that they wouldn't have done it on the frequent basis described by Harminator. People do it more often today because they have access to objects and images to use for that purpose and to arouse them to do it, which of course were not available until quite recently.

 

As for people who are against it, I'm a non-affiliated agnostic and politically I'm a socialist with quite solid left-wing views (including pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ, et cetera). I don't view things like pornography as bad strictly due to my perspective on morality - a lot of it has to do with the fact that, for many people, it becomes habitual and does indeed create difficulties in families or couples. As I said before, I don't think it should be banned by the government because I don't think it is anything that should be considered anywhere close to criminal - not to mention how common it is - but that doesn't mean I think pornography is okay, let alone good. For me it works much the same way as swearing; I think swearing is rude, but I don't really care if other people do it - I simply don't do it myself, and that's good enough for me. Other people watch porn, and while that doesn't help my opinion of them, it doesn't really bother me because I just don't do it myself.

 

I hate it when people get arrested even though they didn't do anything illegal. !@#$ Britain. Then the damn guy who hit down my cousin's mailbox walks away, even though that he clearly committed property damage. 

 

There is this ancient technology called magazines. I'm not saying that I agree with him (or disagree), but magazines did exist. (Personally, I see no difference)

Magazines have only been distributed en masse within the last 150 years maximum. And I guarantee you that catalogs/magazines for the first few decades of that didn't feature anything like pornography.

"Bibant, quoniam edere nolunt." ~ "Let them drink, since they do not wish to eat."

003.png.dec0ea9eb3902372b8bbca44165b588f.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest hawkeye

That is a rather narrow-minded view. Its natural purpose is indeed for reproduction, but you forget that the impulse towards it is hard-wired into our brains as firmly as things like friendship. It is extremely difficult for people to simply avoid it for a lifetime if they don't want children, and it's unrealistic to want or expect people to be able to maintain that kind of abstinence.

 

I too don't like the "fun" perspective, but that's just me, and you do have to recognize that pairs that practice it don't bring harm to anyone else - it is their affair and theirs alone.

people need to control their urges. it is wrong to have sex outside of marriage and for fun as it spreads things like AIDS, meaning it is selfish to do so. by banning it it we stop HIV and save peoples lives and morality.

 

i have never had sex in my life nor have i ever kissed a girl. if i can do it so can they.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i have never had sex in my life nor have i ever kissed a girl. if i can do it so can they.

 

Makes sense. I doubt this was by choice though...

  • Upvote 4

☾☆

Priest of Dio


º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸
¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸
¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸
¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸

6m0xPQ1.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ive never been so like...gay reading this thread then like...everrrr

Edited by Lysandre Mackintosh
  • Upvote 1

 

 

Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

people need to control their urges. it is wrong to have sex outside of marriage and for fun as it spreads things like AIDS, meaning it is selfish to do so. by banning it it we stop HIV and save peoples lives and morality.

 

i have never had sex in my life nor have i ever kissed a girl. if i can do it so can they.

First off, how many "married" couples have passed along HIV and AIDS? Some might have been married before, caught it and passed it on. Back when this first really became a problem, people got them through blood transfusions. Some people have gotten them through other sorts of exposure situations, blood from an infected person mixed with the blood of a non-infected person, say from one person trying to save some one else in an accident. It's not just sex that passes this stuff around.

 

As to your last part, when you hit high school, things may change, but you'll need to pull that stick out of your ass or you'll never have a chance.....at either!

Edited by Coach
  • Upvote 1

X4EfkAB.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you now?  What would you like to bet on that?

Yes I do, and probably a lot. The first widespread periodic publications other than newspapers (unless you'd count almanacs, but I would not since those were not distributed as widely) were catalogs in the United States sent out to sell farming utensils, equipment, and (perhaps most of all) clothing to families settling the western states in the 1850s through maybe the 1880s. "Magazines" already existed by that point, but they were scarcely any different from newspapers.

 

The first magazines that could be reasonably compared to today's publications would have been the political journals that became popular in the late 1800s - for example, Puck, which was created in 1871. These were followed, around the turn of the century, by the introduction of a much wider range of specific magazines and publications catered to certain groups, interests, hobbies, et cetera. This new diversity in publications would have been the first time anything comparable to pornography would have been circulated widely on a regular basis.

 

That is not to say that "pornography" did not exist prior to that, by the standards of the day - some paintings and early photographs were made for the purpose of arousal - but they were still not distributed commonly in newspapers or through other means that reached such large numbers of people as the later magazines did.

 

people need to control their urges. it is wrong to have sex outside of marriage and for fun as it spreads things like AIDS, meaning it is selfish to do so. by banning it it we stop HIV and save peoples lives and morality.

 

i have never had sex in my life nor have i ever kissed a girl. if i can do it so can they.

Are you somehow convinced that marriage makes one immune to AIDS and similar STDs? Those diseases will spread whether the couples are married or not. There's a lot more success to be had in investments to science and research than in censorship and theocratic oppression.

 

As for that second part, I'm sure you haven't. But I'm also sure that you're something like 12 to 14 years old. Some people do successfully maintain abstinence, but that doesn't mean everyone can do it, and it certainly doesn't mean it's okay to FORCE everyone to do it.

 

To make an analogy, I can live without ever going to church or saying a prayer. You could live that way too. But does that make it right to ban those practices, just because you can live without them?

Edited by Roma

"Bibant, quoniam edere nolunt." ~ "Let them drink, since they do not wish to eat."

003.png.dec0ea9eb3902372b8bbca44165b588f.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest hawkeye

Yes I do, and probably a lot. The first widespread periodic publications other than newspapers (unless you'd count almanacs, but I would not since those were not distributed as widely) were catalogs in the United States sent out to sell farming utensils, equipment, and (perhaps most of all) clothing to families settling the western states in the 1850s through maybe the 1880s. "Magazines" already existed by that point, but they were scarcely any different from newspapers.

 

The first magazines that could be reasonably compared to today's publications would have been the political journals that became popular in the late 1800s - for example, Puck, which was created in 1871. These were followed, around the turn of the century, by the introduction of a much wider range of specific magazines and publications catered to certain groups, interests, hobbies, et cetera. This new diversity in publications would have been the first time anything comparable to pornography would have been circulated widely on a regular basis.

 

That is not to say that "pornography" did not exist prior to that, by the standards of the day - some paintings and early photographs were made for the purpose of arousal - but they were still not distributed commonly in newspapers or through other means that reached such large numbers of people as the later magazines did.

 

Are you somehow convinced that marriage makes one immune to AIDS and similar STDs? Those diseases will spread whether the couples are married or not. There's a lot more success to be had in investments to science and research than in censorship and theocratic oppression.

 

As for that second part, I'm sure you haven't. But I'm also sure that you're something like 12 to 14 years old. Some people do successfully maintain abstinence, but that doesn't mean everyone can do it, and it certainly doesn't mean it's okay to FORCE everyone to do it.

 

To make an analogy, I can live without ever going to church or saying a prayer. You could live that way too. But does that make it right to ban those practices, just because you can live without them?

people sleeping around spreads aids and HIV. if they do it in marriage we are still able to reproduce and keep sex and such filth at a min.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

people sleeping around spreads aids and HIV. if they do it in marriage we are still able to reproduce and keep sex and such filth at a min.

In case your impression of humanity is severely skewed, most people don't just go around sleeping with anyone for fun. Banning intercourse outside of marriage would probably have a near-immeasurable effect on the spread of STDs like that, first because it would be almost impossible to enforce (even more so than prohibition), and second because the vast majority of people don't live like that.

 

And once again, if you disapprove of that lifestyle, don't live that way. Just because you think it's disgusting and immature doesn't give you the right to ban it. I think evangelic Christianity is severely damaging to our culture and I think it brews a lot of contempt, but that doesn't mean such evangelists should be banned from living their lives the way they'd like.

 

There happens to be something called empathy, you know.

"Bibant, quoniam edere nolunt." ~ "Let them drink, since they do not wish to eat."

003.png.dec0ea9eb3902372b8bbca44165b588f.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest hawkeye

In case your impression of humanity is severely skewed, most people don't just go around sleeping with anyone for fun. Banning intercourse outside of marriage would probably have a near-immeasurable effect on the spread of STDs like that, first because it would be almost impossible to enforce (even more so than prohibition), and second because the vast majority of people don't live like that.

 

And once again, if you disapprove of that lifestyle, don't live that way. Just because you think it's disgusting and immature doesn't give you the right to ban it. I think evangelic Christianity is severely damaging to our culture and I think it brews a lot of contempt, but that doesn't mean such evangelists should be banned from living their lives the way they'd like.

 

There happens to be something called empathy, you know.

christianity doesn't harm people, sex does

 

sex leads to

 

1. Rape

2. AIDS

3. Child Molestation

4. Homosexuality

5. Unwanted Babies

 

this has caused many problems throughout history.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

christianity doesn't harm people, sex does

 

sex leads to

 

1. Rape

2. AIDS

3. Child Molestation

4. Homosexuality

5. Unwanted Babies

 

this has caused many problems throughout history.

Umm, if it weren't for sex, none of us would be here...
  • Upvote 1

º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸

 

¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR BIO DRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸

 

¨°º¤ø„¸ BIO DRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸

 

¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸

Link to comment
Share on other sites

christianity doesn't harm people, sex does

 

sex leads to

 

1. Rape

2. AIDS

3. Child Molestation

4. Homosexuality

5. Unwanted Babies

 

this has caused many problems throughout history.

Out of the points you've listed, 3 and 4 and in some cases 1, could all be associated with the Catholic Church scandals, so to say Christianity doesn't harm people and sex does.....how do you explain that? Was it God's will for those atrocities to take place?

X4EfkAB.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well said.

 

I support women's rights as well and do support you on your quest to ban pornography ~ although you might wanna check to see if you can talk about things like that on the forums.

It might be shocking for you to learn that women enjoy porn too.

tumblr_m9czr1koad1rutbklo1_5002_zpsgrmgw


Drip, drip, drop


ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

hawkeye, traditional religious teaching on sex was based on the fact that if a man and a woman had sex, there was a fairly high chance the woman would get pregnant. Nowadays, thanks to reliable contraception, it's very unlikely a woman will get pregnant as long as she or the man use contraception correctly. People who have sex - whether married or single - recognize that there is very small chance that conception will happen and that the woman will have to make a difficult choice between continuing the pregnancy and abortion. We're by no means the only species to enjoy sex for the sake of sex, but we are probably the only one to realize how it works.

6hu5nt.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a Feminist and a former sex worker I believe that a ban of pornography would be a very bad thing. Unless you are talking about banning say Revenge porn or porn tube sites.

 

Yeah revenge porn is horrible and should be prosecuted.

What's wrong with revenge porn? If you consent to being filmed while having sex then you share just as much blame when it ends up on the Internet. Avoiding porn of yourself getting into others hands is as simple as not doing it or not letting anyone have it.

tumblr_m9czr1koad1rutbklo1_5002_zpsgrmgw


Drip, drip, drop


ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

christianity doesn't harm people, sex does

 

sex leads to

 

1. Rape

2. AIDS

3. Child Molestation

4. Homosexuality

5. Unwanted Babies

 

this has caused many problems throughout history.

Sex does not lead to those things. They merely involve it. The drive to reproduce in that manner is also part of our instinct - that's why the drive to do it is overwhelming for most people at some point, and why most people (or at least many) end up having children eventually. There is nothing inherently wrong about it, and things like rape and molestation occur because of sexual drive. In short terms, you will either have to accept that intercourse is a part of human life and that the "problems" you have listed are inevitable, or you don't accept them, ban intercourse, and kill off humanity because there's no more reproduction.

  • Upvote 1

"Bibant, quoniam edere nolunt." ~ "Let them drink, since they do not wish to eat."

003.png.dec0ea9eb3902372b8bbca44165b588f.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and the Guidelines of the game and community.