WISD0MTREE Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Did we land on the moon? Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't care if we did or not TBH. But we did so yeah. Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes. I have never seen any reliable evidence to suggest we haven't. 3 Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Paine Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 If we hadn't landed, then Russia would do anything in their power to humiliate us with that info. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) If we hadn't landed, then Russia would do anything in their power to humiliate us with that info. Yeah. I mean, they sent the first man into space and nobody denies that. Russia had field day with it and you don't hear conspiracy theories about that one. Edited August 3, 2015 by Lan 1 Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes, we did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 I like where this thread is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just to offer a counter point show me conclusive evidence that we did. (BTW there is) Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon? Why would we set up a green black screen when we can actually benefit militarily from the technology? Especially in the Cold War? Edited August 3, 2015 by WISD0MTREE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon?Ironically, for you, the top link in that google search you gave us counters your claim - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-moon-landing-hoax-pictures/photo3.html Edited August 3, 2015 by Kurdanak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ironically, for you, the top link in that google search you gave us counters your claim - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-moon-landing-hoax-pictures/photo3.html you're not supposed to click the link, just blindly accept it. Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon? Space travel is extremely expensive. As for stars, have you ever wondered why you can't see stars in the day time? Why is the sky blue? Why does light not look as bright as it does in the dark? Ironically, for you, the top link in that google search you gave us counters your claim - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-moon-landing-hoax-pictures/photo3.html ^This is your answer. Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon? We have figured it out, it just hasn't been implemented due to the cost. If it costs so much, even nowadays, just to send a few people to the ISS, imagine how much it would cost to send an entire colony to the moon! It just isn't time yet. Quote This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So where are all the stars in the background? Total stage setups......we never made it. If we had, we probably would have had a small base up there already. If we have gone from room sized computers that could barely add 2+2 in 50s to todays smartphones that have about a million times the computing power of those old computers, why haven't we figured out a way to make sustainable living on the moon? Computer power isn't a limit on spaceflight, and it hasn't been for a long time. The Apollo guidance computer was about as powerful as the average calculator today, and it worked just fine getting astronauts to the moon. The reason we don't have a moon base? Money. If a country like the US wanted to, it could start planning and setting up a functional moon base right now, and we could probably have a permanent base in a few years, with a lot of effort. Of course, this would be extremely expensive, and without any real reason to have a moon base right now (there is no oil on the moon after all) it is highly unlikely that one will be built in the near future. 1 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 We have figured it out, it just hasn't been implemented due to the cost. If it costs so much, even nowadays, just to send a few people to the ISS, imagine how much it would cost to send an entire colony to the moon! It just isn't time yet. Well there is still that plan to send a whole colony to Mars. That would be awesome, but even the slightest mistake would mean the deaths of everyone on board. The amount of research, practice and calculations alone that go into any space exploration (manned or not) is huge. Sending any given object into space usually takes years of prep and re-prep because as said above, one mistake is all it takes. Computer power isn't a limit on spaceflight, and it hasn't been for a long time. The Apollo guidance computer was about as powerful as the average calculator today, and it worked just fine getting astronauts to the moon. The reason we don't have a moon base? Money. If a country like the US wanted to, it could start planning and setting up a functional moon base right now, and we could probably have a permanent base in a few years, with a lot of effort. Of course, this would be extremely expensive, and without any real reason to have a moon base right now (there is no oil on the moon after all) it is highly unlikely that one will be built in the near future. This. Just look at the international space station. It's the most expensive single item that man has ever created. Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This. Just look at the international space station. It's the most expensive single item that man has ever created. No it's Captain America Quote This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 No it's Captain America We only contributed a fraction of the ever expanding cost. Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What if we didn't land on the moon and the moon instead landed on us and the lives we live are a dream falsely projected in another dimension where we did land on the moon and the person dreaming the reality of the other dimension just has really bad PTSD so he shrugs off our reality like it's repetitive bad dream? I'm not high I swear. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 3, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah. I mean, they sent the first man into space and nobody denies that. Russia had field day with it and you don't hear conspiracy theories about that one. Actually, there are a lot of conspiracies that the Soviets may have sent men into space before Yuri Gargarin (the "first") but they did not return successfully (they died in space). 1 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Actually, there are a lot of conspiracies that the Soviets may have sent men into space before Yuri Gargarin (the "first") but they did not return successfully (they died in space). So black ops 1 focused on Nazi moon zombies when it was apparently Russian moon zombies. Good to know Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) When the oil runs out the moon is gonna be quite sought after. The moon has something that's worth trillions. One thing. Hydrogen3 You mean tritium? What's so special about that? It's a byproduct from nuclear reactors so we can make it ourselves right here. Though it's not going not power your car any time soon. Or ever really. Edited August 4, 2015 by Lan Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) You mean tritium? What's so special about that? It's a byproduct from nuclear reactors so we can make it ourselves right here. Though it's not going not power your car any time soon. Or ever really. I believe Harms meant Helium-3, which is not only very different from Tritium (Hydrogen-3), but potentially much more useful. Helium-3 is a stable 3 neutron isotope of helium that coincidentally results from the decay of Tritium. The reason Harms brings it up is because Helium-3 can be used in fusion, either combined with Deuterium (Hydrogen-2) or with itself. While this requires higher temperatures than the standard Deuterium-Tririum fusion, Helium-3 fusion has the big advantage of not producing very harmful high-energy neutrons or radioactive waste, which is a big plus. The sun expels a lot of Helium-3, and while the Earth's atmosphere defects almost all of it, the moon has no atmosphere, so Helium-3 that hits it embeds in the lunar soil, thus the moon has (relatively speaking) a lot of Helium-3. Thus, if we ever get fusion working, something that gets tossed around a lot is mining the moon to supply Earth with Helium-3 for lots of fusion, though it has other uses as well. I believe something like 40 tons of He-3 would be needed to power a US-sized country for a year. Of course, there are big issues, namely the fact that He-3 on the moon is pretty spread out, and you'd have to strip-mine enormous quantities of lunar soil to get enough, plus the extraction process from that soil is complicated and expensive. In addition, He-3 fusion, as mentioned before, is very high energy, and we are not close to getting even lesser energy fusion to work. Nevertheless, it does have the potential to be an excellent energy source, China in particular is talking a lot about mining the moon at some point in the future. Links: The wikipedia page for Helium-3 is here, while this article does a good job of laying out the possibilities, and this article is long, but goes into a lot of interesting detail. Edited August 4, 2015 by TheNG 1 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Though it's not going not power your car any time soon. Or ever really. Again, Moore's Law. It may not be in our lifetime, but eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Again, Moore's Law. It may not be in our lifetime, but eventually. Moores law huh? So does that mean immortality, artificial consciousness and flying unicorns that shoot laser beams are inevitable? Edited August 4, 2015 by Lan Quote Drip, drip, drop ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (｡□ﾟﾉ)ﾉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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