Tenages Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) tl;dr: Guardian and Seven Kingdoms have mutually decided to end our treaty and return to a paperless friendship. I'm sure the armchair analysts are going to start reading meaning into who posted the announcement, but it really is as simple as Cuba and I flipped a coin and it came up with my name. Edited June 16, 2015 by Tenages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur James Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) NADP relationship won't be shaken by paper and paperless issue. Wanna learn the political aspect like CU/Cobalt? Edited June 16, 2015 by Arthur James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Sad but necessary. It's not goodbye, it's see ya later. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadin Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Signing treaties was definitely not the problem, but okay. Have fun with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 NADP relationship won't be shaken by paper and paperless issue. Wanna learn the political aspect like CU/Cobalt? lol...In all honesty I've tried to trust Cobalt on multiple occassions and I get nowhere with it. -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Bubblegum Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 For the watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuba Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Getting ahold of Tenages is harder than Shellhound being leader for more than a month. Necessary moves and all that. It's not how hard you try, it's if you succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Well, I can't say I didn't expect this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisha Greyjoy Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 A sad move, but I don't really see why we ever signed in the first place. Duke of House Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Who knew that the simple weapons of pen & paper would be able to bring two great alliances to their knees Edited June 16, 2015 by Milkman I come to nurture the weak; to provide sustenance for those in need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impero Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Good luck to both of you in the future. 1 Lord of the Viridian Entente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Sad but necessary. It's not goodbye, it's see ya later. <3 Its okay Hodor, you've still got me <3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Welp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonnorman Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Guardians demise, just promise that your members wont succumb to titans poaching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The Iron Bank Syndicate wishes the involved parties the best of luck in their future endeavors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Good luck to the two of you moving forward. Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Called it. Of course, this is all PR business, and it's curious to wonder what was going on in the backrooms and what happened in the backchannels. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faroah Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Called it. Of course, this is all PR business, and it's curious to wonder what was going on in the backrooms and what happened in the backchannels. I would tell you, but Tenages threatened my liquor cabinet if I did. In response to this announcement, whether it be a paper treaty or a paperless one, 1 ================================================================================== ================================================================================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 I would tell you, but Tenages threatened my liquor cabinet if I did. In response to this announcement, whether it be a paper treaty or a paperless one, We thought it had been established that all liquor cabinets within the confines of Westeros are the property of the Crown? Your words speak of a deep treason that cannot be abided Faroah. We order the liquor be turned over to us, or it's the Black Cells for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faroah Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 We thought it had been established that all liquor cabinets within the confines of Westeros are the property of the Crown? Your words speak of a deep treason that cannot be abided Faroah. We order the liquor be turned over to us, or it's the Black Cells for you. 1 ================================================================================== ================================================================================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Called it. Of course, this is all PR business, and it's curious to wonder what was going on in the backrooms and what happened in the backchannels. You and literally every other conscious person aware of the last war, yes. Good job, Nostradamus. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Why? I thought you guys were ranting about how it was honorable and reasonable to negotiate separate peaces during a losing war with what otherwise would have been a tight-knit coalition. Link me to 3 different posts on these forums indicating during the war that the SK-Guardian-Mensa coalition would have split either as a result of how the war was handled or as a result of the war itself. === The question right now is this; why did the split actually occur? Are Guardian and SK fragmenting in hopes that an untreatied position will provide them better positioning for reintegration into the Orbis world system, as the death of the bloc reduces their power potential and targetability? Or did they really have an acrimonious fight on their diplo boards over issues like Tenages getting leaked in a most grotesque fashion, Shellhound getting reset over an incredibly inept multi-scheme, Guardian seeking an independent peace and leaving SK out to dry, and SK demanding that Guardian commit alliance suicide as per terms of its treaty? The apparent answer is the first. The second answer can be suspected, but not proven without access to their real diplo boards, and if infiltration by certain alliances is real (see the Tenages leak), the people who are interested do know. === Lastly, Avruch, you guys are wondering why I'm "shitposting" (I deny the claim) with no real account here. I said it was inadvertent, then to annoy my detractors, but now I realize I am merely enjoying my freedom. When I was in an alliance and I was seriously playing games like these, I had to bullshit, to lie, to cover up, to dissemble. I couldn't speak my mind or act as my heart dictated. Now that I am alone, vulnerable to mods only, and ZIed, I am free. I am enjoying what could be said to be a grotesque freedom, the freedom of having neither a nation that can be wrecked nor friends who can be endangered. I say what I think is true, and if I'm wrong, so I'm wrong. I have the unique position of being able to call people out for bullshit as much as I want without ever getting rolled. It's priceless. Edited June 16, 2015 by Inst . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadin Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Why? I thought you guys were ranting about how it was honorable and reasonable to negotiate separate peaces during a losing war with what otherwise would have been a tight-knit coalition. Link me to 3 different posts on these forums indicating during the war that the SK-Guardian-Mensa coalition would have split either as a result of how the war was handled or as a result of the war itself. === The question right now is this; why did the split actually occur? Are Guardian and SK fragmenting in hopes that an untreatied position will provide them better positioning for reintegration into the Orbis world system, as the death of the bloc reduces their power potential and targetability? Or did they really have an acrimonious fight on their diplo boards over issues like Tenages getting leaked in a most grotesque fashion, Shellhound getting reset over an incredibly inept multi-scheme, Guardian seeking an independent peace and leaving SK out to dry, and SK demanding that Guardian commit alliance suicide as per terms of its treaty? The apparent answer is the first. The second answer can be suspected, but not proven without access to their real diplo boards, and if infiltration by certain alliances is real (see the Tenages leak), the people who are interested do know. === Lastly, Avruch, you guys are wondering why I'm "!@#$posting" (I deny the claim) with no real account here. I said it was inadvertent, then to annoy my detractors, but now I realize I am merely enjoying my freedom. When I was in an alliance and I was seriously playing games like these, I had to !@#$, to lie, to cover up, to dissemble. I couldn't speak my mind or act as my heart dictated. Now that I am alone, vulnerable to mods only, and ZIed, I am free. I am enjoying what could be said to be a grotesque freedom, the freedom of having neither a nation that can be wrecked nor friends who can be endangered. I say what I think is true, and if I'm wrong, so I'm wrong. I have the unique position of being able to call people out for !@#$ as much as I want without ever getting rolled. It's priceless. I don't like to do the whole speculation thing, but I'd say not much has changed. You can still expect them all to fight if one of them gets attacked and they have a chance at victory by working together. This is just a return to their old gimmick, "paperless" status. They're pretty scared of treaties. It was annoying in the past, but now it's just funny. As for not being free to speak your mind while actually playing the game, why not? I've been doing it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 It's really not that hard to figure out. SK !@#$ed up with the leak. Guardian was planning to cancel on SK post-war before the war even started. This whole "we are going back to being paperless allies" is just a long winded way to say the treaty is cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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